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Old 10-03-2007, 11:19 AM   #1
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Blood in urine

I was wondering if anyone ever has dealt with anything like this...

I had a 23 year old Paint stud shipped up from FL to TN about a month ago. Two weeks ago I noticed blood in his urine... his urine looked nothing like urine, looked like straight blood. I called the vet immediately, and he came out palpated him, examined his sheath and all his parts... found nothing wrong with him... felt no stones, no tumors, bladder felt perfect. He left me with a tube and said to get a urine sample.. a few hours later I dropped it off.
They said the only thing in the urine is that there is broken red blood cells and high protein, meaning there is an infection. He gave me antibiotics, said to give him 15 pills twice daily. That was over a week ago that he was started on those.
It isn't getting any better, if anything, the urine is even more red... if that is possible. Called the vet and had him come out and draw blood to do a CBC and make sure nothing was wrong that way.
I will not have the results until tomorrow, but has anyone else ever had anything like this?
He is not acting like his in pain, no signs of colic.
I talked with the previous owner, said never had anything like it (she has been his only other owner.) I cleaned his sheath 3 weeks ago, so I do not believe anything could be rubbing? He hasn't been bred for a year now, also don't know if that has anything to do with it? Everything I find online talks about the horse having colic symptoms, and Skip has none.
Any ideas would be appreciated
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:50 AM   #2
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Well, I haven't seen this in horses, but my dog recently had the same thing you described. Her urine looked like straight blood. Took her to the vet, had her x-rayed and blood work done, and they figured it was a bladder infection. Put her on antibiotics and it cleared up within two weeks. They did mention that if the first antibiotic didn't work, they would need to try another kind. Possibly a different type of antibiotics is needed in this case? Just a thought, as I'm definitely no expert. I do understand how worried you must feel though...
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:15 PM   #3
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Other than infection the only other condition I know of that usually caused red or dark urine is Azoturia, or Monday morning sickness. Also referred to as tying up.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:45 PM   #4
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Yes, there is something that they eat that can cause urine to look red, and at the moment I am drawing a blank as to what it is. There is a thread here about it-as I was one of the posters, I think I can find it. Maybe something in it will help?

It could be something entirely different in your guy, so I am glad to hear you have had him checked!

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Old 10-03-2007, 03:56 PM   #5
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Ok, I found it.. I don't know if there will be anything useful here-but it might give you some ideas?

There is also a link in one of the posts to a horse health website-that might be helpful too.

http://forum.horsetopia.com/showthread.php?t=49496

Good luck-hope evrything is ok!
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:02 PM   #6
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Does your horse only bleed during urination, or do you notice it when hes just standing around?
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:09 PM   #7
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There is only blood when he is urinating.
Thanks for the link to the other posts, I will definitely read them and see if I can find any info that may be helpful
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:28 PM   #8
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Let us know what you find out! I hope he's ok
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:39 PM   #9
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I would think that it is a really bad infection, but it could be a # of things. Is he on supplements of any kind,or was he on any before he came to you? Some supplements have high levels of B6 and thiamine, which will cause bleeding of the kidneys, but its just a thought..You will know more with a CBC and I hope its something simple.

Keep us posted plz.
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:27 PM   #10
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More than likely its a bad case of infection that needs culture and sensativity done. If no infection found then ultrasound to R/O cancer. I dont like the sign of him showing no discomfort though. Infection is very uncomfortable in the bladder with spasms and burning upon urination.
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:37 PM   #11
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Yes, please keep us posted !
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:05 PM   #12
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Did the vet test his kidney function? I knew an old horse that had some of the same symptoms as your does, and was found to have kidney failure. It might be an area to check out. Good luck, and I hope he's feeling better soon!
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:58 PM   #13
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I talked to the vet this evening... the results from the blood tests all came back normal... not a single thing was wrong.
He hasn't been on any supplements aside from beet pulp and corn oil...
If something is wrong with his kidneys, it would show up on the CBC, right?
He said if it is a bad infection, it may take up to 4 weeks on the antibiotics.
I will call him tomorrow and ask him if he can tell anything about kidney failure from the cbc
Thanks for all of your help, and I will keep you posted
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:12 AM   #14
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He could tell kidney failure from blood tests. Protein levels would be extremely high. I bet it is infection, some antiobotics take awhile to work. Give it time.
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Bladder or kidney stones are the most common cause of red blood in the urine. Infections may have some blood as well, but white cells are the most common cells seen on the microscope. A CBC is not going to give you any info on the kidneys. You would need a full profile with BUN and Creatnine. Was a clotting time or profile done? You could look at his gums and see if there are little red specks.
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I hope his water and salt intake is good at this time. When horses aren't getting enough the urine will turn red. Was it yellow when he arrived?
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The vet said there were no stones...
He is drinking around 20 gal of water a day (I thought this was excessive, so I called his previous owner, and she said he has always drank this much, since he was born.) He has a mineral and salt lick in his stall and in the field, and he loves to lick it!
I am going to call the vet to see if he did any testing that would check the kidneys...
Thanks for your continued help...
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:58 AM   #18
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Are you sure it's blood? My horses go sometimes in the snow & it looks like blood. It's really a dark reddish color but the vet said it's normal.
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Did they xray for stones? I don't even know if horses get them.
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