Need help on horse bolting/moving fast to catch up to next

princesskristin · 09-16-2007, 08:21 PM

Hello, I have been having an issue with my horse that when are behind another, and when the other horse is asked to canter, I canter as well which is ok when commaned but it will turn into a uncontrolled bolt. And when on trails, my horse will not listen and will try to trot, canter to catch up to the other horse. Can any body offer me any suggestions/adive besides be the leader that can help?

version1955 · 09-16-2007, 08:24 PM

It is a discipline issue. This problem has the potential to be very dangerous. Being the leader isn't an answer at all. It avoids confronting lack of discipline.

I'd suggest you see if by chance your horse's failure to follow your lead while in the saddle occurs at other times too, but you aren't noticing because "nothing happens". I'm guessing you'll find other issues as well.

Please consider your safety above all else.

HorseMomToSage · 09-16-2007, 08:29 PM

Princess-I agree. Please get with a trainer and learn (if you do not know it already) the one-rein stop. They can also help you with control issues and reinforcing your role as leader. And please be careful.

**gbarmranch** · 09-16-2007, 08:30 PM

I agree - and would do two things..

Redo some ground work - especially round penning for respect..

And do a lot of canter work when you are alone with him with half halts, downard transitions, circles, full halts, etc.. until he is almost doing what you ask as you think it..

If you are only trail riding with him, you need to include some training time - his attitude and behavior is unacceptable, and is only going to get you, him, or someone else hurt..

So work his misbehaving little hinny off at home..

ambrey · 09-16-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseMomToSage

Princess-I agree. Please get with a trainer and learn (if you do not know it already) the one-rein stop. They can also help you with control issues and reinforcing your role as leader. And please be careful.

I was going to say the same thing, and if he will not walk when another horse gets ahead to circle him. Horses really hate being made to trot around in a circle

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NoniMe · 09-16-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseMomToSage

Princess-I agree. Please get with a trainer and learn (if you do not know it already) the one-rein stop. They can also help you with control issues and reinforcing your role as leader. And please be careful.

Ah, the one rein stop. I love it, and use it every time Tango decides to go dancing at a faster speed than I've asked. About half the time, we only have to do it once, too, before he decides to listen to my request.

I agree - it's a leadership issue, and it won't be solved by letting him be the leader. Round pen for respect (not exhaustion), and different exercises for ground work and so on.

And yes, learn the one rein stop...

Best-
Noni

Touche · 09-17-2007, 06:38 AM

You are going to need a partner to work on this with you.

Like others have said-work on transitions and when he is good at doing them, then start working on them with another horse around. If you have an arena, it would be safest to work him in there. Let him get used to other the other horse passing him and him passing the other horse. Start at the walk work up to the trot. When he gets good at this only then try the canter.

You can do this on the trail too, you just don't have the safety net of being confined in cace he bolts. The one-rein stop is a great tool to teach any horse!

On the trail have him pass his buddy, go as far as he or the other horse is comfortable. It may only be 5 feet at first. Have the buddy pass him and keep doing this. It is a good way to get them focused back on the rider and not the buddy.

You can also while you are trail riding, have the buddy horse just walking along and you doing a big circle around that horse on your horse. If he has extra energy, that is a good way to put it to use. Also keeps him focused.

It may take a while to fix and you don't want to canter right away until he relearns his job.

Be careful!

Mule Fool · 09-17-2007, 08:13 AM

Great advice from everybody. Always good to know that one rein stop. find someone to help you who has complete control of their horse so that when you are doing the exercises that Touche described they aren't fighting to control their horse, too. And I would start in the arena too at slower gaits. I probably wouldn't even try to lope him til you have complete control at the slower gaits. Stay Safe.

princesskristin · 09-17-2007, 08:30 PM

Thank you everyone for the advice.

**gbarmranch** · 09-17-2007, 08:49 PM

You just be careful out there - we don't want to see you get hurt..

princesskristin · 09-17-2007, 09:02 PM

Thanks, remeber Gbarm where I wrote that my horse was bucking, well he stopped after I got a new farrier. The previous farrier was making his feet crooked.

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09-16-2007, 08:21 PM
princesskristin Coming two Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,596	Need help on horse bolting/moving fast to catch up to next Hello, I have been having an issue with my horse that when are behind another, and when the other horse is asked to canter, I canter as well which is ok when commaned but it will turn into a uncontrolled bolt. And when on trails, my horse will not listen and will try to trot, canter to catch up to the other horse. Can any body offer me any suggestions/adive besides be the leader that can help? __________________ Sometimes you just got to take a ride of faith.

09-16-2007, 08:24 PM
version1955 Kid Safe Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Minnesnowdah Posts: 6,937	It is a discipline issue. This problem has the potential to be very dangerous. Being the leader isn't an answer at all. It avoids confronting lack of discipline. I'd suggest you see if by chance your horse's failure to follow your lead while in the saddle occurs at other times too, but you aren't noticing because "nothing happens". I'm guessing you'll find other issues as well. Please consider your safety above all else. __________________ gonna do what I can instead of complain and fret about what I can't Joanie

09-16-2007, 08:29 PM
HorseMomToSage Coming two Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: A Whole Other Country-TX Of Course Posts: 1,501	Princess-I agree. Please get with a trainer and learn (if you do not know it already) the one-rein stop. They can also help you with control issues and reinforcing your role as leader. And please be careful.

09-16-2007, 08:30 PM
gbarmranch Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mayberry Posts: 29,575	I agree - and would do two things.. Redo some ground work - especially round penning for respect.. And do a lot of canter work when you are alone with him with half halts, downard transitions, circles, full halts, etc.. until he is almost doing what you ask as you think it.. If you are only trail riding with him, you need to include some training time - his attitude and behavior is unacceptable, and is only going to get you, him, or someone else hurt.. So work his misbehaving little hinny off at home.. __________________ Quality Foundation Quarter Horses http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never point in the wrong direction.

09-17-2007, 06:38 AM
Touche Coming two Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,902	You are going to need a partner to work on this with you. Like others have said-work on transitions and when he is good at doing them, then start working on them with another horse around. If you have an arena, it would be safest to work him in there. Let him get used to other the other horse passing him and him passing the other horse. Start at the walk work up to the trot. When he gets good at this only then try the canter. You can do this on the trail too, you just don't have the safety net of being confined in cace he bolts. The one-rein stop is a great tool to teach any horse! On the trail have him pass his buddy, go as far as he or the other horse is comfortable. It may only be 5 feet at first. Have the buddy pass him and keep doing this. It is a good way to get them focused back on the rider and not the buddy. You can also while you are trail riding, have the buddy horse just walking along and you doing a big circle around that horse on your horse. If he has extra energy, that is a good way to put it to use. Also keeps him focused. It may take a while to fix and you don't want to canter right away until he relearns his job. Be careful! __________________ Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. W.C.Fields

09-17-2007, 08:13 AM
Mule Fool Started Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington State Posts: 2,283	Great advice from everybody. Always good to know that one rein stop. find someone to help you who has complete control of their horse so that when you are doing the exercises that Touche described they aren't fighting to control their horse, too. And I would start in the arena too at slower gaits. I probably wouldn't even try to lope him til you have complete control at the slower gaits. Stay Safe.

09-17-2007, 08:30 PM
princesskristin Coming two Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,596	Thank you everyone for the advice. __________________ Sometimes you just got to take a ride of faith.

09-17-2007, 08:49 PM
gbarmranch Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mayberry Posts: 29,575	You just be careful out there - we don't want to see you get hurt.. __________________ Quality Foundation Quarter Horses http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never point in the wrong direction.

09-17-2007, 09:02 PM
princesskristin Coming two Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,596	Thanks, remeber Gbarm where I wrote that my horse was bucking, well he stopped after I got a new farrier. The previous farrier was making his feet crooked. __________________ Sometimes you just got to take a ride of faith.