Trailer loading, I think not!

Thoroughbredlover · 07-24-2007, 06:13 PM

I belive this man has the wrong idea on how to load a horse. To me it is a very dangerous situation for the horse and the man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42iAPuKGLT0

jkj10209 · 07-24-2007, 06:21 PM

I agree! I would never try to load a horse in that situation. We have always been able to get our horses to jump in the trailer with us standing beside them and they jump right in this seems very dangerous.

Gallamist · 07-24-2007, 07:23 PM

I had to laugh at "Master Horseman".....hahahahah

Yeah not the way I teach my horses to get into the trailer either!

AllUpHill · 07-24-2007, 07:38 PM

He looked like the reason the horse didn't want or couldn't get in the trailer. I don't think he will be the next CL

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AlbertaGirl · 07-25-2007, 12:31 AM

This isn't the way I'd do things, and I also didn't like the way the "war bridle" seemed to be pinching off the horse's breathing, but to be honest, it's not as bad as I was expecting... He doesn't jerk on or hit the horse, he pets him and calls him as good boy, and allows him to leave the trailer a few times and go back on. I certainly wouldn't consider the guy a master horseman from that demo though!

**taelesean** · 07-25-2007, 02:15 AM

Did you see his solution to a bucking horse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz2GW...elated&search=

Master horseman?

If I were that horse, I think I would have fallen on him.

Thoroughbredlover · 07-25-2007, 10:17 AM

I agree, that if I were the horse I would have fallen on him too.

b-mark · 07-25-2007, 10:34 AM

Nuh-uh - not something I'd want to try....

Karafarmgirl · 07-25-2007, 12:07 PM

Is this guy for real??? What a joke!!

**gbarmranch** · 07-25-2007, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gallamist

I had to laugh at "Master Horseman".....hahahahah

Yeah not the way I teach my horses to get into the trailer either!

Exactly what I was thinking too

- nope, not a way I would train either...

b-mark · 07-25-2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taelesean

Did you see his solution to a bucking horse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz2GW...elated&search=

Master horseman?

If I were that horse, I think I would have fallen on him.

Yeah, I'm gonna run out and buy his videos right away! *shaking head* Geesh!

jkponies · 07-25-2007, 03:13 PM

I'm not saying I agree with this guy or anything, but many years ago I had a set of horse training books by Professor Beery, and I think that may be where these methods were adapted from. Prof. Beery talked a lot about putting a horse on the ground (gently!) to get him to submit to the handler and to listen to what he was being taught. Now, I wouldn't do that, but OTOH, Prof. Beery had lots of info about reading a horse's face to figure out his personality that was pretty spot-on, so maybe he wasn't a COMPLETE crackpot.

irishmusic · 07-26-2007, 10:54 AM

Kept waiting for the saddle to turn on him. And the trailer loading, well, it was laughable.

I have seen hobbles used to good effect on intractable horses - but an intractable horse is a rarity....

doyle82 · 07-26-2007, 11:08 AM

A bunch of us on my other forum were commenting on the no bucking video all week.

trobinson · 07-26-2007, 11:31 AM

:sh ock:

**divinemisselle** · 07-26-2007, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b-mark

Yeah, I'm gonna run out and buy his videos right away! *shaking head* Geesh!

You mean this guy has training videos for sale?

I think I'll wait til they hit the Dollar Store.

Luvpaints · 07-26-2007, 02:42 PM

He had that horse all nervous b/4 he even started with the loading exercise when he put on the **war halter** and started yanking on it for no reason when the horse was just standing there so peacful !!! I hate it when people think they are trainers......poor horses are the innocent victims of stupidity.

Gotta Love Duns · 07-26-2007, 05:09 PM

What just because the horse was perfectly calm before he stuck that contraption on its head and would have walked into the trailer calmly before, says NOTHING about his training methods at all...

The bucking video, well all I can do is shake my head.

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07-24-2007, 06:13 PM
Thoroughbredlover Halter broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 133	Trailer loading, I think not! I belive this man has the wrong idea on how to load a horse. To me it is a very dangerous situation for the horse and the man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42iAPuKGLT0 __________________ "A horse already knows how to be a horse; the rider has to learn how to become a rider. A horse without a rider is still a horse; though a rider without a horse is no longer a rider." ~ A wise horseman

07-24-2007, 06:21 PM
jkj10209 Yearling Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 782	I agree! I would never try to load a horse in that situation. We have always been able to get our horses to jump in the trailer with us standing beside them and they jump right in this seems very dangerous. __________________ "Whoever said money can't buy happiness didn't know where to buy a horse."

07-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Gallamist Weanling Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaumont, AB Posts: 294	I had to laugh at "Master Horseman".....hahahahah Yeah not the way I teach my horses to get into the trailer either! __________________ A horse Remembers what happened, before what happened, happened. ~Ken Schmuland~ http://www.vershantieranch.20fr.com

07-24-2007, 07:38 PM
AllUpHill Yearling Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Posts: 683	He looked like the reason the horse didn't want or couldn't get in the trailer. I don't think he will be the next CL !

07-25-2007, 12:31 AM
AlbertaGirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alberta Posts: 3,431	This isn't the way I'd do things, and I also didn't like the way the "war bridle" seemed to be pinching off the horse's breathing, but to be honest, it's not as bad as I was expecting... He doesn't jerk on or hit the horse, he pets him and calls him as good boy, and allows him to leave the trailer a few times and go back on. I certainly wouldn't consider the guy a master horseman from that demo though! __________________ Some people say horses don't have a sense of humor... they obviously haven't met mine yet ;o)

07-25-2007, 02:15 AM
taelesean Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,756	Did you see his solution to a bucking horse? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz2GW...elated&search= Master horseman? If I were that horse, I think I would have fallen on him. __________________

07-25-2007, 10:17 AM
Thoroughbredlover Halter broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 133	I agree, that if I were the horse I would have fallen on him too. __________________ "A horse already knows how to be a horse; the rider has to learn how to become a rider. A horse without a rider is still a horse; though a rider without a horse is no longer a rider." ~ A wise horseman

07-25-2007, 10:34 AM
b-mark Yearling Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 700	Nuh-uh - not something I'd want to try.... __________________ Gina & the critter crew http://www.sunshine.gawdproductions.ca

07-25-2007, 12:07 PM
Karafarmgirl Halter broke Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 161	Is this guy for real??? What a joke!!

07-25-2007, 03:13 PM
jkponies Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bardstown KY Posts: 420	I'm not saying I agree with this guy or anything, but many years ago I had a set of horse training books by Professor Beery, and I think that may be where these methods were adapted from. Prof. Beery talked a lot about putting a horse on the ground (gently!) to get him to submit to the handler and to listen to what he was being taught. Now, I wouldn't do that, but OTOH, Prof. Beery had lots of info about reading a horse's face to figure out his personality that was pretty spot-on, so maybe he wasn't a COMPLETE crackpot.

07-26-2007, 10:54 AM
irishmusic Yearling Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 581	Kept waiting for the saddle to turn on him. And the trailer loading, well, it was laughable. I have seen hobbles used to good effect on intractable horses - but an intractable horse is a rarity.... __________________ It seems that some creatures have the capacity to fill spaces you never knew were empty. Captain Jean Luc Picard

07-26-2007, 11:08 AM
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07-26-2007, 11:31 AM
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07-26-2007, 02:42 PM
Luvpaints Yearling Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW Florida Posts: 590	He had that horse all nervous b/4 he even started with the loading exercise when he put on the war halter and started yanking on it for no reason when the horse was just standing there so peacful !!! I hate it when people think they are trainers......poor horses are the innocent victims of stupidity.

07-26-2007, 05:09 PM
Gotta Love Duns Bombproof Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dixonville, Alberta Posts: 8,421	What just because the horse was perfectly calm before he stuck that contraption on its head and would have walked into the trailer calmly before, says NOTHING about his training methods at all... The bucking video, well all I can do is shake my head. __________________ A penny saved is a penny you can spend on your next horse. http://nightfireranch.webs.com/index.htm