New type of bridle

GreyDot · 08-14-2008, 06:22 PM

Hard to believe, but this contraption is actually legal for dressage, and has been officially declared so by the FEI, the international equestrian sport governing body. I got this picture from their web site. There is no explanation given - just the note that this is now legal as a snaffle bridle in dressage.

Now, I've been around horses and tack for 38 of my 41 years, and thought I had a good grip on the reasoning behind the tack we use - but the logic behing this thing escapes me.

Anyone who can logically explain the purpose behind this strange design, gets a cookie

Carri · 08-14-2008, 09:24 PM

That is odd, I have never seen one before... It looks like it is a super-duper crank noseband or something.

I wish they would make a bitless bridle legal, Miley does much better in one. I know, you can't get the same collection, but just keeping her in the arena is our goal right now!

SunnyKS · 08-14-2008, 09:27 PM

no cookies for me

mafarion · 08-14-2008, 09:28 PM

Does it double as a halter? It would just appear to make the noseband more stable, although I don't see why that would matter...

rm185western · 08-14-2008, 09:32 PM

DUH well, just send those cookies over...................can you not see it

It is a contraption solely designed by someone who was spying on the throat lash thread, look see, no argument about it being to tight there

scrapchick · 08-14-2008, 09:33 PM

hmm. from the top down it looked like a handy cavesson/bridle combo but the strap under the bit thing is kind of strange. do i get cookie crumbs for my uninformed yet useless opinion?

HighHorse · 08-14-2008, 09:37 PM

GreyDot- You are torturing me with this! Ugh! I can't believe I can't remember where I saw that!

I know what I was looking for when I stumbled across it, and that's making it more difficult. Remember that NS bit you showed me? I went hunting down anyone who sold those bits (to try and find one for less in the states). The problem is that I went on so many different sites that day, I can't remember where I saw it.

Ooh, wait. I think I Googled : eggbutt low port. Hmm, maybe a starting point. Well, I guess I know what I'll be doing for the next half hour.

ETA: I'll be in Conyers, GA. next weekend. That's only a couple hours drive to pick up my cookie after I figure it out.

sherriawright · 08-14-2008, 09:39 PM

I wonder if the strap under the bit is to help keep the bit in place? Looks more like a halter/bridle combo to me.

Carri · 08-14-2008, 09:39 PM

The strap under the bit is pretty "standard" equipment, it is called a flash noseband. It keeps the horse from being able to open it's mouth to evade the bit. We use one on Miley, because she LOVES to run around with her mouth gaping open so the bit is completely ineffective. And with my 7 yr old baby on her, that is just not acceptable!

HighHorse · 08-14-2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carri

The strap under the bit is pretty "standard" equipment, it is called a flash noseband. It keeps the horse from being able to open it's mouth to evade the bit. We use one on Miley, because she LOVES to run around with her mouth gaping open so the bit is completely ineffective. And with my 7 yr old baby on her, that is just not acceptable!

No, not the flash. Look where the throatlatch should be. See that weird buckle? That's what were talking about.

Carri · 08-14-2008, 09:43 PM

Yep, I got that, but several people were commenting on the strap UNDER the bit, also... I thought I would explain it, because for a long time, I did not know what a flash noseband was used for.

HorseLVR · 08-14-2008, 09:49 PM

I've got it!!!!! It's nothing more than a conversation starter. Now, where's my cookie? (arms folded and impatiently tapping foot on the floor)

HighHorse · 08-14-2008, 09:52 PM

Similar:
http://www.doversaddlery.com/the-ram...1-12672/cn/79/

I am going to find this again!

Luvridn · 08-14-2008, 09:52 PM

I know very little about the nuances of english bridles, but looking at it it looks like it would be extremely difficult for the horse to get any jaw movement. No only because of the flash and caveson, but because of the throatloatch being so low and snug. The buckles just look like the buckle adjumstments on a leather show halter to me...the super adjustable ones.

I wonder if also it keeps the throatlatch from getting in the way of a super-collected horse?

I don't know just guessing

chukker4 · 08-14-2008, 09:53 PM

Could the throatlatch be that way to prevent it from interfering with the horse coming down on the bit?
I am clueless too, but it is my best guess...

chukker4 · 08-14-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luvridn

I know very little about the nuances of english bridles, but looking at it it looks like it would be extremely difficult for the horse to get any jaw movement. No only because of the flash and caveson, but because of the throatloatch being so low and snug. The buckles just look like the buckle adjumstments on a leather show halter to me...the super adjustable ones.

I wonder if also it keeps the throatlatch from getting in the way of a super-collected horse?

I don't know just guessing

Oh, I guess someone had already guessed that,,,oops..

SunnyKS · 08-14-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rm185western

DUH well, just send those cookies over...................can you not see it

It is a contraption solely designed by someone who was spying on the throat lash thread, look see, no argument about it being to tight there

XtendedTrot · 08-14-2008, 10:04 PM

That is pretty normal for dressage....the piece below the bit is the flash ( used for keeping the horses mouth closed around the bit). It's okay and won't bother them if it's not strapped down super tight.

Luvridn · 08-14-2008, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chukker4

Oh, I guess someone had already guessed that,,,oops..

Haha we posted almost the same time.

chukker4 · 08-14-2008, 10:23 PM

:laugh ing6:

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08-14-2008, 06:22 PM
GreyDot Started Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Between AZ and OH Posts: 2,295	New type of bridle Hard to believe, but this contraption is actually legal for dressage, and has been officially declared so by the FEI, the international equestrian sport governing body. I got this picture from their web site. There is no explanation given - just the note that this is now legal as a snaffle bridle in dressage. Now, I've been around horses and tack for 38 of my 41 years, and thought I had a good grip on the reasoning behind the tack we use - but the logic behing this thing escapes me. Anyone who can logically explain the purpose behind this strange design, gets a cookie __________________ ...There is nothing to be done till a horse's head is settled. ~William Cavendish Stuipid CAN be fixed... you just have to hit it hard enough! ~A rare moment of inspiration

08-14-2008, 09:24 PM
Carri Bombproof Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 10,086	That is odd, I have never seen one before... It looks like it is a super-duper crank noseband or something. I wish they would make a bitless bridle legal, Miley does much better in one. I know, you can't get the same collection, but just keeping her in the arena is our goal right now! __________________

08-14-2008, 09:27 PM
SunnyKS Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,463	no cookies for me __________________

08-14-2008, 09:28 PM
mafarion Halter broke Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 81	Does it double as a halter? It would just appear to make the noseband more stable, although I don't see why that would matter...

08-14-2008, 09:32 PM
rm185western Greenbroke Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 3,658	DUH well, just send those cookies over...................can you not see it It is a contraption solely designed by someone who was spying on the throat lash thread, look see, no argument about it being to tight there __________________ ________________________________ Okay, who put a stop payment on my reality check?

08-14-2008, 09:33 PM
scrapchick Seasoned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Festus, Missouri Posts: 4,837	hmm. from the top down it looked like a handy cavesson/bridle combo but the strap under the bit thing is kind of strange. do i get cookie crumbs for my uninformed yet useless opinion? __________________ Better living through chemistry.

08-14-2008, 09:37 PM
HighHorse Started Join Date: May 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 2,908	GreyDot- You are torturing me with this! Ugh! I can't believe I can't remember where I saw that! I know what I was looking for when I stumbled across it, and that's making it more difficult. Remember that NS bit you showed me? I went hunting down anyone who sold those bits (to try and find one for less in the states). The problem is that I went on so many different sites that day, I can't remember where I saw it. Ooh, wait. I think I Googled : eggbutt low port. Hmm, maybe a starting point. Well, I guess I know what I'll be doing for the next half hour. ETA: I'll be in Conyers, GA. next weekend. That's only a couple hours drive to pick up my cookie after I figure it out. __________________ I played with a clouded leopard

08-14-2008, 09:39 PM
sherriawright Weanling Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pekin, Illinois Posts: 459	I wonder if the strap under the bit is to help keep the bit in place? Looks more like a halter/bridle combo to me. __________________ The art of riding is keeping the horse between you and the ground.

08-14-2008, 09:43 PM
Carri Bombproof Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 10,086	Yep, I got that, but several people were commenting on the strap UNDER the bit, also... I thought I would explain it, because for a long time, I did not know what a flash noseband was used for. __________________

08-14-2008, 09:49 PM
HorseLVR Yearling Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Robertsdale,Alabama Posts: 682	I've got it!!!!! It's nothing more than a conversation starter. Now, where's my cookie? (arms folded and impatiently tapping foot on the floor)

08-14-2008, 09:52 PM
HighHorse Started Join Date: May 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 2,908	Similar: http://www.doversaddlery.com/the-ram...1-12672/cn/79/ I am going to find this again! __________________ I played with a clouded leopard

08-14-2008, 09:52 PM
Luvridn Long Yearling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 1,072	I know very little about the nuances of english bridles, but looking at it it looks like it would be extremely difficult for the horse to get any jaw movement. No only because of the flash and caveson, but because of the throatloatch being so low and snug. The buckles just look like the buckle adjumstments on a leather show halter to me...the super adjustable ones. I wonder if also it keeps the throatlatch from getting in the way of a super-collected horse? I don't know just guessing __________________ If your horse wants to bolt, there is probably a nut loose in the saddle! PP

08-14-2008, 09:53 PM
chukker4 Halter broke Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberts Posts: 60	Could the throatlatch be that way to prevent it from interfering with the horse coming down on the bit? I am clueless too, but it is my best guess...

08-14-2008, 10:04 PM
XtendedTrot Halter broke Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 103	That is pretty normal for dressage....the piece below the bit is the flash ( used for keeping the horses mouth closed around the bit). It's okay and won't bother them if it's not strapped down super tight.

08-14-2008, 10:23 PM
chukker4 Halter broke Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberts Posts: 60	:laugh ing6: