Saddle slips

version1955 · 08-01-2008, 11:33 AM

I don't know if its because I'm not swift enough to saddle my "new" (30 yrs old) saddle or if its the front cinch latigo (or whatever you call that long strap that goes into the cinch) that's all crappy. But now after saddle soaping and neets foot oiling the strap I can't get the saddle tight enough. I've also been using a cheap saddle pad cuz its easy to know if its centered, maybe I need to go back to a doubled, wool blanket?

I'm so clumsy, its probably me, but then someone suggested putting that strap in the cinch ring from behind instead of in front... or was it the other way around?

Any suggestions for how to figure this out and fix it?

pvf · 08-01-2008, 12:45 PM

I would think that once the leather dries it should be able to tighten. Are you sure that the horse isn't puffing up his/her stomach and then when you get on its loose. If thats the case walk the horse tighten the cinch and then walk it again and double check it.

Sorry thats all I got for right now..

**gbarmranch** · 08-01-2008, 12:47 PM

pvf makes a good point - I tighten - then walk - then retighten - then walk - then retighten - and then stretch the front legs, and recheck..

Is your girth perhaps too big as well - maybe you need a smaller one..

SunnyKS · 08-01-2008, 01:13 PM

Latigo's get sticky and hard to work after oiling sometimes. A nylon latigo is fairly cheap and they zip right on up. Sometimes a little too quick if you are used to a leather one.

http://www.chicksaddlery.com/Merchan...c t_Code=6714

Slim Pikkens · 08-01-2008, 07:09 PM

The red latigo leather shouldn't be oiled as it's a special tannage. It can become spongey and stretchy.

HighHorse · 08-01-2008, 08:38 PM

Simple- Just stop putting oil under the saddle, silly.

Mav2007 · 08-01-2008, 08:47 PM

Sometimes my saddle slips when I try to get on, but it's because of my weak body that can't boost itself into the saddle. I just tighten the girth, walk, tighten the girth again, then use a mounting block.

RebaRose · 08-01-2008, 11:26 PM

Try a different saddle pad! It can make a big difference!

Wolfie · 08-02-2008, 12:26 AM

What about a neoprene pad or neoprene girth?

Crookedblaze · 08-02-2008, 12:37 AM

I agree with Wolfie, neoprene girths are really nice. You can also get some pretty good no slip saddle pads that also help to divert sweat.

Otherwise, I'd check for bloating. My horses are tricky, they bloat before I even get them to my tack shed.

Wolfie · 08-03-2008, 01:32 AM

What is your tie strap made of?

fishing_trex · 08-03-2008, 11:33 AM

If the cinch latigo (i.e., tie strap) is "sticky" and doesn't like to tighten, you can put baby powder on it to make it move/tighten more smoothly. I have to do this each time I condition mine.

Generally, what I have found is the more padding you have, the more roll you will get with the saddle. The thinnest pad that works is usually the best.

SunnyKS · 08-03-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishing_trex

If the cinch latigo (i.e., tie strap) is "sticky" and doesn't like to tighten, you can put baby powder on it to make it move/tighten more smoothly. I have to do this each time I condition mine.

Generally, what I have found is the more padding you have, the more roll you will get with the saddle. The thinnest pad that works is usually the best.

Oh I bet that would work.

Rusty's Girl · 08-03-2008, 09:05 PM

If all else fails, you could always replace the leather tie strap with a nylon one. Not as pretty, but doesn't stretch. Neoprene girths are good too.

ahlihaff · 08-04-2008, 09:14 AM

I love my Sports Sincha. I bought it for my treeless saddle, however, it can be worn with any western saddle.

My saddle has never slipped. When Ahliver did a major spin and bolt in May, I was literally hanging off his side for a while, but the saddle itself never budged.

version1955 · 08-05-2008, 07:20 AM

Sunny, I bought a nylon one and someone told me "Oh No!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighHorse

Simple- Just stop putting oil under the saddle, silly.

Ach! So that's what it was!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav2007

Sometimes my saddle slips when I try to get on, but it's because of my weak body that can't boost itself into the saddle. I just tighten the girth, walk, tighten the girth again, then use a mounting block.

And you are insinuating WHAT?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebaRose

Try a different saddle pad! It can make a big difference!

Ding! Ding! You are the winner! I changed to a wool blanket instead of the cheapie felt saddle pad and ....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfie

What about a neoprene pad or neoprene girth?

... changed from a fleece cinch to a felt cinch and whaa-lah! THE SADDLE STAYED ON!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishing_trex

If the cinch latigo (i.e., tie strap) is "sticky" and doesn't like to tighten, you can put baby powder on it to make it move/tighten more smoothly. I have to do this each time I condition mine.

Generally, what I have found is the more padding you have, the more roll you will get with the saddle. The thinnest pad that works is usually the best.

Baby powder, huh! I'll try that.

Thanks guys! Like I said I changed to a wool blanket and a different cinch and all is right with the world. The other thing is to saddle a different horse

Its tough to get a saddle on a horse shaped like a barrel

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08-01-2008, 11:33 AM
version1955 Kid Safe Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Minnesnowdah Posts: 6,630	Saddle slips I don't know if its because I'm not swift enough to saddle my "new" (30 yrs old) saddle or if its the front cinch latigo (or whatever you call that long strap that goes into the cinch) that's all crappy. But now after saddle soaping and neets foot oiling the strap I can't get the saddle tight enough. I've also been using a cheap saddle pad cuz its easy to know if its centered, maybe I need to go back to a doubled, wool blanket? I'm so clumsy, its probably me, but then someone suggested putting that strap in the cinch ring from behind instead of in front... or was it the other way around? Any suggestions for how to figure this out and fix it? __________________ gonna do what I can instead of complain and fret about what I can't Joanie

08-01-2008, 12:45 PM
pvf Regional Forums Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,451	I would think that once the leather dries it should be able to tighten. Are you sure that the horse isn't puffing up his/her stomach and then when you get on its loose. If thats the case walk the horse tighten the cinch and then walk it again and double check it. Sorry thats all I got for right now.. __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

08-01-2008, 12:47 PM
gbarmranch Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,233	pvf makes a good point - I tighten - then walk - then retighten - then walk - then retighten - and then stretch the front legs, and recheck.. Is your girth perhaps too big as well - maybe you need a smaller one.. __________________ Quality Foundation Quarter Horses http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann Perhaps the best Yuletide decoration is being wreathed in smiles. ~Author Unknown

08-01-2008, 01:13 PM
SunnyKS Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,463	Latigo's get sticky and hard to work after oiling sometimes. A nylon latigo is fairly cheap and they zip right on up. Sometimes a little too quick if you are used to a leather one. http://www.chicksaddlery.com/Merchan...c t_Code=6714 __________________

08-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Slim Pikkens Started Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,948	The red latigo leather shouldn't be oiled as it's a special tannage. It can become spongey and stretchy.

08-01-2008, 08:38 PM
HighHorse Started Join Date: May 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 2,908	Simple- Just stop putting oil under the saddle, silly. __________________ I played with a clouded leopard

08-01-2008, 08:47 PM
Mav2007 Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,489	Sometimes my saddle slips when I try to get on, but it's because of my weak body that can't boost itself into the saddle. I just tighten the girth, walk, tighten the girth again, then use a mounting block.

08-01-2008, 11:26 PM
RebaRose Weanling Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: wisconsin Posts: 222	Try a different saddle pad! It can make a big difference!

08-02-2008, 12:26 AM
Wolfie Coming two Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: US Posts: 1,547	What about a neoprene pad or neoprene girth?

08-02-2008, 12:37 AM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,457	I agree with Wolfie, neoprene girths are really nice. You can also get some pretty good no slip saddle pads that also help to divert sweat. Otherwise, I'd check for bloating. My horses are tricky, they bloat before I even get them to my tack shed. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

08-03-2008, 01:32 AM
Wolfie Coming two Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: US Posts: 1,547	What is your tie strap made of?

08-03-2008, 11:33 AM
fishing_trex Long Yearling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,436	If the cinch latigo (i.e., tie strap) is "sticky" and doesn't like to tighten, you can put baby powder on it to make it move/tighten more smoothly. I have to do this each time I condition mine. Generally, what I have found is the more padding you have, the more roll you will get with the saddle. The thinnest pad that works is usually the best. __________________ -- There are two ways to slide easily through life -- to believe everything or to doubt everything. Both ways will save you from thinking.

08-03-2008, 09:05 PM
Rusty's Girl Yearling Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 802	If all else fails, you could always replace the leather tie strap with a nylon one. Not as pretty, but doesn't stretch. Neoprene girths are good too.

08-04-2008, 09:14 AM
ahlihaff Greenbroke Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Western MA Posts: 3,635	I love my Sports Sincha. I bought it for my treeless saddle, however, it can be worn with any western saddle. My saddle has never slipped. When Ahliver did a major spin and bolt in May, I was literally hanging off his side for a while, but the saddle itself never budged.