dumb question

RenosGirl · 02-13-2009, 12:01 AM

what (if there is any) the difference in a full cheek snaffle with a french link, or a full cheek snaffle with a copper roller in the middle.

hawk · 02-13-2009, 12:21 AM

The French Link Full Cheek Snaffle Bit doesn't have the nutcracker action of a single jointed snaffle and therefore may be a good choice for horses with a low palate. Instead, the mouthpiece lays flat across the tongue. While most snaffles have a single joint in the center, there are some that have more than one joint. Collectively, they are known as the multi-jointed snaffles. The full cheek pieces can be helpful in refining the turning aids (helpful for young horses) and for preventing the bit from being pulled through the mouth.

The Full cheek copper roller snaffle is a popular bit, and is used for horses that need something stronger than a jointed bit because they lean or try to grab the bit. The alternating stainless steel and copper rollers set along the mouthpiece, allow the bit to roll up the mouth, and help to prevent the horses from grabbing it between the teeth. The jointed mouthpiece gives a nutcracker action on the bars, and can contact the palate. Full cheek bits are often used on young horses to aid steering, as the cheek gives a more positive action against the cheek when the rider asks for a turn. Full cheek snaffles should be used with fulmer loops which secure the top of the bit to the cheekpieces to prevent the bit from rotating and leaving the cheeks pointing out which could pose a hazard. By securing the cheek, it also allows a very small amount of poll pressure to come into play, helping to encourage a lower outline.

RenosGirl · 02-13-2009, 01:04 AM

great advice, I will get some fulmer loops.

Ok what would be better for my horse, he listens 98% of the time, but he is not the softest in the mouth. I normally ride in a broken kimberwick (on the top hole) or a plain old D ring snaffle with rollers. The kimberwick works well but he doesn't seem to like it for every day use, and with the snaffle he doesn't respond, (well he does respond but he tends to ignore it sometimes) and therefore I want to change up the bit when I am doing refreshers with him.

What would be better, a french link or a roller?

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02-13-2009, 12:01 AM
RenosGirl Long Yearling Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 1,251	dumb question what (if there is any) the difference in a full cheek snaffle with a french link, or a full cheek snaffle with a copper roller in the middle. __________________ Go and love your babies today, and everyday...you never know when it could be the last time.

02-13-2009, 12:21 AM
hawk Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 581	Not dumb...good question. The French Link Full Cheek Snaffle Bit doesn't have the nutcracker action of a single jointed snaffle and therefore may be a good choice for horses with a low palate. Instead, the mouthpiece lays flat across the tongue. While most snaffles have a single joint in the center, there are some that have more than one joint. Collectively, they are known as the multi-jointed snaffles. The full cheek pieces can be helpful in refining the turning aids (helpful for young horses) and for preventing the bit from being pulled through the mouth. The Full cheek copper roller snaffle is a popular bit, and is used for horses that need something stronger than a jointed bit because they lean or try to grab the bit. The alternating stainless steel and copper rollers set along the mouthpiece, allow the bit to roll up the mouth, and help to prevent the horses from grabbing it between the teeth. The jointed mouthpiece gives a nutcracker action on the bars, and can contact the palate. Full cheek bits are often used on young horses to aid steering, as the cheek gives a more positive action against the cheek when the rider asks for a turn. Full cheek snaffles should be used with fulmer loops which secure the top of the bit to the cheekpieces to prevent the bit from rotating and leaving the cheeks pointing out which could pose a hazard. By securing the cheek, it also allows a very small amount of poll pressure to come into play, helping to encourage a lower outline. __________________ They can turn on a dime and toss you back nine cents change, the American Quarter Horse.

02-13-2009, 01:04 AM
RenosGirl Long Yearling Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 1,251	great advice, I will get some fulmer loops. Ok what would be better for my horse, he listens 98% of the time, but he is not the softest in the mouth. I normally ride in a broken kimberwick (on the top hole) or a plain old D ring snaffle with rollers. The kimberwick works well but he doesn't seem to like it for every day use, and with the snaffle he doesn't respond, (well he does respond but he tends to ignore it sometimes) and therefore I want to change up the bit when I am doing refreshers with him. What would be better, a french link or a roller? __________________ Go and love your babies today, and everyday...you never know when it could be the last time.