In Need of Show names for my stud colt. - Page 2

tuffsmom · 10-20-2009, 05:18 PM

You have to have a breeders certificate to register him. That will list Mom and Dad.

Arabx · 10-20-2009, 05:57 PM

It will be interesting to see what color he sheds out. Does he have the primitive markings of a dun? I can't tell from the pics.

In an earlier thread
Meet Zackery - My New Foal

The lady who sold you him told you his mom was a grullo dun, did you get to see her or have pics? Did she breed the mare or did she rescue the mare? If she bred it she should know who the stud is. The stud "may or may not be registered"?? It either is or isn't

Personally I wouldn't capatialize on the Dun Deal Or Ima Dun Looking or Dunit names as it would lead people to believe your horse is a registered quarter horse with certain lines when he isn't. Why not try different names using Zachery?

ChasnCans · 10-20-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Arabx

It will be interesting to see what color he sheds out. Does he have the primitive markings of a dun? I can't tell from the pics.

In an earlier thread
Meet Zackery - My New Foal

The lady who sold you him told you his mom was a grullo dun, did you get to see her or have pics? Did she breed the mare or did she rescue the mare? If she bred it she should know who the stud is. The stud "may or may not be registered"?? It either is or isn't

Personally I wouldn't capatialize on the Dun Deal Or Ima Dun Looking or Dunit names as it would lead people to believe your horse is a registered quarter horse with certain lines when he isn't. Why not try different names using Zachery?

agreed. Also it may congfuse someone on the color, he doesn't look to be dun.

scrapchick · 10-20-2009, 10:16 PM

He looks liver chestnut to me, one of my favorite colors.

paintedpastures · 10-20-2009, 10:18 PM

There is a few suggestions with the word "Dun" in it. I'm not sure but i'm not seeing Dun color in the pics of him looks like a plain sorrel/chestnut color. He has a dorsal that could very well be just coutershading,don't see any other dun marking/characteristics?

Would wait to see his true color when he is shed out completely before naming him anything with Dun in the name.

farmergal · 10-20-2009, 11:20 PM

I know nothing about the requirements to register a horse but I wish you luck and if you can register him you can call him.....
I'ma dun mister

What ever his color he's adorable!

arabiancowgirl · 10-20-2009, 11:27 PM

Umm... like this will really sound rude (not meaning to be) but that colt should be a gelding... we already have enough unregistered stallions. Just because he has a good attitude doesn't mean he should be left uncut and bred! Just telling the truth.

enchanting · 10-21-2009, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by horsegirl4

They will consider him hardship. Knowing sire and dam isn't neccesary. If you are lucky to know them great! I registered my gelding with no knowlege of his parents they just leave the sire and dam blank or write unknown. So I don't need sire or dam to register him.

What registry did you register your gelding with? There are some registries that allow you to register a gelding hardshipped, but few allow a stallion to be hardshipped. Also, most people do not use stallions for showmanship. I had a trainer once tell me that showmanship and equitation classes are rare for stallions. Now we have a good friend that takes her stallion in everything including those classes, so I'm not saying it can't be done, just it isn't common. You may get some strange looks.

I too would like to know what the 4 registries are that allow for him to be hardshipped in especially as a stud.

prancingpony · 10-21-2009, 05:40 AM

How about Dun Nied.

Sorry it is early and I couldn't resist.
I am sure that most registries will deny a stallion as a hardship. Sorry.

kanoo32 · 10-21-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by prancingpony

How about Dun Nied.

Sorry it is early and I couldn't resist.
I am sure that most registries will deny a stallion as a hardship. Sorry.

Clever!!

Or, how about this...DunNuttin'

horsegirl4 · 10-21-2009, 11:42 PM

I'm just going to name him after my mare that just pasted away. Thanks for the help.

MiniHorseFosterMom · 10-22-2009, 08:53 AM

I am still curious as to which registries that you could register him with.

horsegirl4 · 10-22-2009, 09:34 AM

ABRA, IBRA, AQHA. If I can't that's fine. But I have already talked to AQHA about it and they said I could. If he was OVER 48 months then I would have to show parent verification. His will be listed as unproven. Again thanks for your help. ABRA and IBRA if you don't know parents you still can register. So I'm fine there.

MiniHorseFosterMom · 10-22-2009, 09:37 AM

Ahh Ok the ABRA and the IBRA make sense. Didn't know that AQHA would hardship a stallion though... I know the ApHC wont even hardship unless gelded or spayed.

Amrwmblds2 · 10-22-2009, 09:45 AM

Well you can only register ABRA if he is in fact dun- which to me- he looks like he will be a chestnut- maybe a liver?

But anyway- he is cute- and good luck!

horsegirl4 · 10-22-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amrwmblds2

Well you can only register ABRA if he is in fact dun- which to me- he looks like he will be a chestnut- maybe a liver?

But anyway- he is cute- and good luck!

He is a dun most likely a red. He has a dorsel, he has the shadowing on his neck, withers, and shoulders, he has cobbwebing on his forehead that extends out from under his star/blaze. So he has the factors just not the black legs, and those are starting to darken.

MiniHorseFosterMom · 10-22-2009, 09:56 AM

Amrwmblds2 - I thought she meant the American Barrel Racing Association (ABRA). Didn't even think of the buckskin one.

horsegirl4 · 10-22-2009, 09:58 AM

Sorry they aren't very good pictures as he is dirty and a little wet

Horselady44 · 10-22-2009, 10:29 AM

Sorry to hear about your mare

RIP
Either way he is a cutie...I dont know I would be keeping him a stud beings you know nothing about his pedigree...but thats all up to you. Hes a doll. So what is his name...you said your naming him after your mare....but never said what it was

Do you have some better pictures that show his dorsal stripe and just some better confo and close ups by chance?

GV4 · 10-22-2009, 10:56 AM

Enchanting...I know LOTS of people who show their geldings in showmanship and do extremely well. In fact, my stallion and I just won our showmanship class of 14 entries at the Gypsy breed show. I have also shown him in open shows against QH and the like and am always in the top 5. I really think it depends on the horse, not the gender.

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10-20-2009, 05:18 PM
tuffsmom Kid Safe Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 5,736	You have to have a breeders certificate to register him. That will list Mom and Dad. __________________

10-20-2009, 05:57 PM
Arabx Weanling Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hat Creek Cattle Company Posts: 278	It will be interesting to see what color he sheds out. Does he have the primitive markings of a dun? I can't tell from the pics. In an earlier thread Meet Zackery - My New Foal The lady who sold you him told you his mom was a grullo dun, did you get to see her or have pics? Did she breed the mare or did she rescue the mare? If she bred it she should know who the stud is. The stud "may or may not be registered"?? It either is or isn't Personally I wouldn't capatialize on the Dun Deal Or Ima Dun Looking or Dunit names as it would lead people to believe your horse is a registered quarter horse with certain lines when he isn't. Why not try different names using Zachery? __________________ "I am I because my little dog knows me" - Gertrude Stein Last edited by Arabx : 10-20-2009 at 06:15 PM.

10-20-2009, 10:16 PM
scrapchick Kid Safe Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Festus, Missouri Posts: 7,022	He looks liver chestnut to me, one of my favorite colors. __________________ ....And I will sail my vessel, 'til the river runs dry, like a bird upon the wind , these waters are my sky - I'll never reach my destination if I never try ...So I will sail my vessel ,'til the river runs dry ...

10-20-2009, 10:18 PM
paintedpastures Yearling Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sherwood park,AB Posts: 567	There is a few suggestions with the word "Dun" in it. I'm not sure but i'm not seeing Dun color in the pics of him looks like a plain sorrel/chestnut color. He has a dorsal that could very well be just coutershading,don't see any other dun marking/characteristics?Would wait to see his true color when he is shed out completely before naming him anything with Dun in the name.

10-20-2009, 11:20 PM
farmergal Kid Safe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 6,063	I know nothing about the requirements to register a horse but I wish you luck and if you can register him you can call him..... I'ma dun mister What ever his color he's adorable! __________________ Knowlege is out there, you just need to know where to look.

10-20-2009, 11:27 PM
arabiancowgirl Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,060	Umm... like this will really sound rude (not meaning to be) but that colt should be a gelding... we already have enough unregistered stallions. Just because he has a good attitude doesn't mean he should be left uncut and bred! Just telling the truth. __________________ It's easy to be Pro-Choice... if your not the one being killed.

10-21-2009, 05:40 AM
prancingpony Seasoned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,367	How about Dun Nied. Sorry it is early and I couldn't resist. I am sure that most registries will deny a stallion as a hardship. Sorry. __________________ Breeder of fine Gypsy Sport Horses http://www.freewebs.com/faewillow/ Equine Gifts at http://www.cafepress.com/faewillow

10-21-2009, 11:42 PM
horsegirl4 Yearling Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the Saddle Posts: 826	I'm just going to name him after my mare that just pasted away. Thanks for the help. __________________ Galazy ~Dec. 22 1983 - Oct. 21 2006~ RIP ~ My sweet Gal-Gal Girl, I'll see you again in heaven! Unique Fashion Jewelers

10-22-2009, 08:53 AM
MiniHorseFosterMom Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 44	I am still curious as to which registries that you could register him with.

10-22-2009, 09:34 AM
horsegirl4 Yearling Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the Saddle Posts: 826	ABRA, IBRA, AQHA. If I can't that's fine. But I have already talked to AQHA about it and they said I could. If he was OVER 48 months then I would have to show parent verification. His will be listed as unproven. Again thanks for your help. ABRA and IBRA if you don't know parents you still can register. So I'm fine there. __________________ Galazy ~Dec. 22 1983 - Oct. 21 2006~ RIP ~ My sweet Gal-Gal Girl, I'll see you again in heaven! Unique Fashion Jewelers

10-22-2009, 09:37 AM
MiniHorseFosterMom Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 44	Ahh Ok the ABRA and the IBRA make sense. Didn't know that AQHA would hardship a stallion though... I know the ApHC wont even hardship unless gelded or spayed.

10-22-2009, 09:45 AM
Amrwmblds2 Coming two Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,514	Well you can only register ABRA if he is in fact dun- which to me- he looks like he will be a chestnut- maybe a liver? But anyway- he is cute- and good luck! __________________ www.NewEnglandWarmbloods.com Breeding and Training Quality Sporthorses

10-22-2009, 09:56 AM
MiniHorseFosterMom Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 44	Amrwmblds2 - I thought she meant the American Barrel Racing Association (ABRA). Didn't even think of the buckskin one.

10-22-2009, 09:58 AM
horsegirl4 Yearling Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the Saddle Posts: 826	Sorry they aren't very good pictures as he is dirty and a little wet __________________ Galazy ~Dec. 22 1983 - Oct. 21 2006~ RIP ~ My sweet Gal-Gal Girl, I'll see you again in heaven! Unique Fashion Jewelers

10-22-2009, 10:29 AM
Horselady44 Started Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 2,401	Sorry to hear about your mare RIP Either way he is a cutie...I dont know I would be keeping him a stud beings you know nothing about his pedigree...but thats all up to you. Hes a doll. So what is his name...you said your naming him after your mare....but never said what it was Do you have some better pictures that show his dorsal stripe and just some better confo and close ups by chance? __________________ A happy horse equals a happy rider!

10-22-2009, 10:56 AM
GV4 Halter broke Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OH Posts: 94	Enchanting...I know LOTS of people who show their geldings in showmanship and do extremely well. In fact, my stallion and I just won our showmanship class of 14 entries at the Gypsy breed show. I have also shown him in open shows against QH and the like and am always in the top 5. I really think it depends on the horse, not the gender.