Anyone ever seen or used this?

Midnightbobby · 10-24-2008, 01:36 PM

Has anyone ever used a product called the Barnes Trainer? How does it help with controling your horse?

Heres the website:

http://www.barnestrainer.com/

**Diamond_Y** · 10-24-2008, 01:42 PM

I wouldn't use one on my horse.

Crookedblaze · 10-24-2008, 01:44 PM

I have to say, I'm skeptical. To me, it seems like a short cut to stop bucking when it's a behavior issue that needs to be corrected over time with proper riding techniques, not by a special headstall.

Horselady44 · 10-24-2008, 01:52 PM

I wouldnt use one. You may prevent bucking, but by causing that pressure on his ears your going to get a headshy horse. JMO

Midnightbobby · 10-24-2008, 02:04 PM

Thanks guys.

My friend bought it for her horse ($220)

and she said it worked good. That's too bad for her. I'm going down to see her this weekend and I bet she's got a new head shy horse!

EquineAlberta · 10-24-2008, 02:11 PM

Interesting. Not sure my thoughts on it. I don't like the testimonials that use it as a training tool...a well started horse shouldn't buck, so I hate the idea that someone could use that as a short cut on a green horse. Might have value in retraining a ruined horse. Might have even more value in giving a rider confidence in working that ruined horse.

Might punish the horse for stretching its neck out though...encourage the horse to go with a hollow back and high head.

Not sure. I don't think it would cause headshyness though as it squeezes the base, not the tip, although the demo horse looked less than impressed...

karen

GreyDot · 10-24-2008, 06:39 PM

Hmmm... it just doesn't look very nice at all. I don't like gimmicks in the first place, and tend to agree with EquineAlberta that a well-started horse should not be pulling crap. I also don't like ANY kind of 'punishment' or 'action' on or around a horse's head. If there are erratic behaviour or discipline issues, then they should be addressed from the bottom up. And, if it's un-addressed physical pain that is causing the horse to misbehave, then no amount of that thingie's action will make him stop. Again, you'd have to figure out what the problem is in the first place. So, I guess I just really don't see the point of something like this. Looks like the newest in a looooooooong line of "fix-it-quick" gimmicks. I would not use it.

horselady · 10-24-2008, 07:50 PM

Anything that is mechanical is scary to me. If you have a horse that is head sensitive it is going to make it worse.l

looks like a pully system with a one ear headstall. or possibly a chambone with pully.

ChasnCans · 10-24-2008, 07:54 PM

I think they should only be used as training perpouse Like if you have a bucking horse, good foundation .. check off all other reasons why the animal is bucking and so on, Oh-and be an expraniced horse person.

XtendedTrot · 10-24-2008, 08:57 PM

That's a really dumb A#$ idea! Way to mask a problem instead of identifying the cause. I'm not knocking you, just the inventor.

breburtch · 10-26-2008, 05:43 AM

I would never use it. IMO you'd be masking the problem which can only lead to more problems then fixing anything. Not to mention if the horse lowers his head to scratch or sneezes etc he would have to get the pain of that contraption so he gets punished for doing something he always does.

Also you might end up with a hard to catch or bridle/halter horse because it does not want to experiance what now comes with it.

Kingpin · 10-26-2008, 08:34 AM

I have found that if a horse tends to buck something like that will make it figure out a new way to buck or he will become afraid of bridle or something resulting in other problems. So for me that would not work. If a horse is going to buck me and that horse are going to work that situation out together I am not going to have to rely on something to make him or her behave. If I cannot control an animal I need to give him to somebody who can. I have found that if you have to use a lot of equipment you and the animal are not having any enjoyment anyway so for me it would not be good to use. Have not heard of it at all before this post to answer the actual question.

Wendy F · 10-26-2008, 05:19 PM

Partner saw this on RFD. He decided to male one like it for a horse that would spontaneous buck land I mean high. (I wouldn't get on her!) He used it. Said it worked. She hasn't bucked since even without it so I guess you could say it works. However...I still won't get on that horse!

10-24-2008, 01:36 PM
Midnightbobby Yearling Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 745	Anyone ever seen or used this? Has anyone ever used a product called the Barnes Trainer? How does it help with controling your horse? Heres the website: http://www.barnestrainer.com/ __________________ ~Equine Diva~

10-24-2008, 01:42 PM
Diamond_Y Administrator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 3,796	I wouldn't use one on my horse. __________________ Diamond Y Quarter Horses - Breeders of Quality Foundation Quarter Horses Home of King of Cooke County, 2004 Perlino son of Cooke County ETC

10-24-2008, 01:44 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,586	I have to say, I'm skeptical. To me, it seems like a short cut to stop bucking when it's a behavior issue that needs to be corrected over time with proper riding techniques, not by a special headstall. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

10-24-2008, 01:52 PM
Horselady44 Halter broke Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 120	I wouldnt use one. You may prevent bucking, but by causing that pressure on his ears your going to get a headshy horse. JMO __________________ A happy horse equals a happy rider!

10-24-2008, 02:04 PM
Midnightbobby Yearling Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 745	Thanks guys. My friend bought it for her horse ($220) and she said it worked good. That's too bad for her. I'm going down to see her this weekend and I bet she's got a new head shy horse! __________________ ~Equine Diva~

10-24-2008, 02:11 PM
EquineAlberta Seasoned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,688	Interesting. Not sure my thoughts on it. I don't like the testimonials that use it as a training tool...a well started horse shouldn't buck, so I hate the idea that someone could use that as a short cut on a green horse. Might have value in retraining a ruined horse. Might have even more value in giving a rider confidence in working that ruined horse. Might punish the horse for stretching its neck out though...encourage the horse to go with a hollow back and high head. Not sure. I don't think it would cause headshyness though as it squeezes the base, not the tip, although the demo horse looked less than impressed... karen __________________ Hillside Stable, Ardrossan, AB CHT Horse Stories!

10-24-2008, 06:39 PM
GreyDot Started Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 2,327	Hmmm... it just doesn't look very nice at all. I don't like gimmicks in the first place, and tend to agree with EquineAlberta that a well-started horse should not be pulling crap. I also don't like ANY kind of 'punishment' or 'action' on or around a horse's head. If there are erratic behaviour or discipline issues, then they should be addressed from the bottom up. And, if it's un-addressed physical pain that is causing the horse to misbehave, then no amount of that thingie's action will make him stop. Again, you'd have to figure out what the problem is in the first place. So, I guess I just really don't see the point of something like this. Looks like the newest in a looooooooong line of "fix-it-quick" gimmicks. I would not use it. __________________ ...There is nothing to be done till a horse's head is settled. ~William Cavendish No lesson is learned as thoroughly as the one taught to oneself. ~Another rare moment

10-24-2008, 07:50 PM
horselady Greenbroke Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: albany new york Posts: 3,598	Anything that is mechanical is scary to me. If you have a horse that is head sensitive it is going to make it worse.l looks like a pully system with a one ear headstall. or possibly a chambone with pully. __________________ www.rainbow-horse-retirement.com We love and take care of your companion for the remainder of his lifetime

10-24-2008, 07:54 PM
ChasnCans Coming two Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KS Posts: 1,699	I think they should only be used as training perpouse Like if you have a bucking horse, good foundation .. check off all other reasons why the animal is bucking and so on, Oh-and be an expraniced horse person. __________________ In memory of baby Mayln Marie Loyd. While he may knock over a barrel he will never* break my heart

10-24-2008, 08:57 PM
XtendedTrot Halter broke Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 117	That's a really dumb A#$ idea! Way to mask a problem instead of identifying the cause. I'm not knocking you, just the inventor.

10-26-2008, 05:43 AM
breburtch Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ennismore, Ontario Posts: 2,103	I would never use it. IMO you'd be masking the problem which can only lead to more problems then fixing anything. Not to mention if the horse lowers his head to scratch or sneezes etc he would have to get the pain of that contraption so he gets punished for doing something he always does. Also you might end up with a hard to catch or bridle/halter horse because it does not want to experiance what now comes with it.

10-26-2008, 08:34 AM
Kingpin Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancaster, Ky Posts: 522	I have found that if a horse tends to buck something like that will make it figure out a new way to buck or he will become afraid of bridle or something resulting in other problems. So for me that would not work. If a horse is going to buck me and that horse are going to work that situation out together I am not going to have to rely on something to make him or her behave. If I cannot control an animal I need to give him to somebody who can. I have found that if you have to use a lot of equipment you and the animal are not having any enjoyment anyway so for me it would not be good to use. Have not heard of it at all before this post to answer the actual question. __________________ Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's the result of something...hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication. Roger Staubach

10-26-2008, 05:19 PM
Wendy F Long Yearling Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,026	Partner saw this on RFD. He decided to male one like it for a horse that would spontaneous buck land I mean high. (I wouldn't get on her!) He used it. Said it worked. She hasn't bucked since even without it so I guess you could say it works. However...I still won't get on that horse! __________________ Breaking,Training,Raising Quality bred QH's Home of Blue Roan Stallion "Blue Woody Hancock" AQHA, NFQHA 96.63% Foundation www.wfquarterhorses.com It should be a sin to talk about someones kids, horses, or dogs!