Color question*pic*

WhiskeyTango · 10-15-2009, 10:06 PM

Im buying this stud.But I cannot figure out what color he is?From what I have been looking up his color is a "blue taffy"..He can't be a blue roan...Any ideas?The owner said he was born a chestnut but turned this color.Notice the chestnut color in his flanks.

evelynwolfe · 10-15-2009, 10:55 PM

Wow he's beautiful! I would say a chocolate....maybe? With flaxen mane and tail. Or blue with flaxen mane and tail? I wouldn't call him a blue roan as he doesn't roan out at all...I dunno...but he is beautiful! So refined!

englishriderx91 · 10-15-2009, 11:08 PM

I don't know what color he is but he is beautiful.

WhiskeyTango · 10-15-2009, 11:10 PM

I def. notice the diffrence in the necks between him and the pintaloosa...I use to show rabbits and the best thing to do is try and start off with the best you can get.

I ended up not buying the pintaloosa.I backed out.

But i would not call him a roan either, since roans usually have a black mane and some black points...

I thought he may be a chocolate....but I don't think he would have a white mane and tail?

prancingpony · 10-15-2009, 11:10 PM

Maybe a smokey black silver dapple??

WhiskeyTango · 10-15-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prancingpony

Maybe a smokey black silver dapple??

Wouldnt there be some type of dappling?

AlbertaGirl · 10-15-2009, 11:44 PM

The color looks a little off in that photo, but he looks like he carries the silver gene to me. I did a little research and apparently the silver gene is also called silver dapple, chocolate flax or Taffy gene.

http://www.horse-genetics.com/silver-dapple.html

muttduck · 10-16-2009, 03:38 AM

First glance, he screams 'Silver Dapple' to me.
Silver Dapple is known as different terms in different breeds, including "Chocolate Palomino", "Chocolate", "Taffy", "Silver" etc...

Baby fuzz versions of Silver can be very confusing to determine what they will be as adults.

Silver Dapple is not really a 'dappled' color all the time. Most of the time they look a chocolatey brown to gray color with flaxen mane and tail, with or without dapples on the body.

It's a gene that modifies black based horses.
(ie, Black looks like the above pic. Bay would have a red body but that chocolatey color on the legs, and the bright flaxen mane/tail. Buckskin would have a gold body, chocolatey legs, and the flaxen mane/tail.)

Aspen3 · 10-16-2009, 05:19 AM

Silver dapple. I have seen alot of miniatures and shetland ponies that are this color.
Janet

kaykay · 10-16-2009, 06:51 AM

I believe hes a silver bay which is very common in minis. This is his clipped coat but I but with full coat hes silver bay. You can see the reddish sheen on parts of his body. Handsome mini!

Jen&Jack · 10-16-2009, 08:23 AM

Looks Silver dapple to me. I don't think silver bay though, there are 2 silver bays on the farm and all the silver modifies on them for the most part is the black points and the mane and tail. Turns the mane and tail light and the points dark chocolate brown.

kaykay · 10-16-2009, 09:25 AM

The correct term would be silver black. (silver diluting a black horse or some call it silver dapple horse) But I feel strongly he is not black based as he has obvious red in his coat. But silver does not show up on red so he almost has to be silver bay. It would help if you had pictures in his normal unclipped coat. You can see his lower legs are that muddied up color which is typical of the silver gene modifying black points.

muttduck · 10-16-2009, 09:52 AM

I could easily agree with kaykay - he is shaved for that pic, so the undercoat may be darker, and he could infact be a silver bay (silver dapple + bay) - with the shaving giving him the appearance of being less red in the body.

WhiskeyTango · 10-16-2009, 12:35 PM

I will get some more pictures Sunday of him.

The breeder said he was born chestnut!But turned this color as he got older.

His sire was spectacular bey, so he might be a silver bay!

thanks for replying to me..I know alot of horse colors but not flamilar with this one!

WhiskeyTango · 10-18-2009, 03:08 PM

He is def. a silver bay.Though now he has his long winter coat in and he is red with black points and a flaxen mane and tail.Shaved he is a totally diffrent looking horse!

WhiskeyTango · 10-21-2009, 11:21 PM

This is him.Spectacular Bay Dream. I also bought a pretty palomino pinto mare too!

Horselady44 · 10-21-2009, 11:34 PM

I donno what color he is ...as Im not familiar with mini's colors...but just had to say...he is stunning!!!

kaykay · 10-22-2009, 04:47 AM

Thats exactly what I thought he would look like in winter coat. Now you can see the bay and the black points on the legs. Definitely a silver bay

Kay

Jen&Jack · 10-22-2009, 08:12 AM

Wow, after that last pic I am definitely changing my vote to silver bay! I work with Rockys and see A LOT of variations on the silver gene, but there is no mistaking that one!lol.

muttduck · 10-22-2009, 09:07 AM

Yep - I fully back kaykay's opinion on silver bay as well.

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10-15-2009, 10:06 PM
WhiskeyTango Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 44	Color questionpic Im buying this stud.But I cannot figure out what color he is?From what I have been looking up his color is a "blue taffy"..He can't be a blue roan...Any ideas?The owner said he was born a chestnut but turned this color.Notice the chestnut color in his flanks.

10-15-2009, 10:55 PM
evelynwolfe Halter broke Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern IN Posts: 183	Wow he's beautiful! I would say a chocolate....maybe? With flaxen mane and tail. Or blue with flaxen mane and tail? I wouldn't call him a blue roan as he doesn't roan out at all...I dunno...but he is beautiful! So refined! __________________ Sell the cow, buy the sheep, but never be without the horse. ~ Irish Proverb

10-15-2009, 11:08 PM
englishriderx91 Newborn Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 25	I don't know what color he is but he is beautiful. __________________ Proud owner of: Josie ~ 17 year old Quarter Horse mare Dynamic Essence ~ Brooke ~ 4 year old Appendix mare

10-15-2009, 11:10 PM
WhiskeyTango Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 44	I def. notice the diffrence in the necks between him and the pintaloosa...I use to show rabbits and the best thing to do is try and start off with the best you can get. I ended up not buying the pintaloosa.I backed out. But i would not call him a roan either, since roans usually have a black mane and some black points... I thought he may be a chocolate....but I don't think he would have a white mane and tail?

10-15-2009, 11:10 PM
prancingpony Seasoned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,367	Maybe a smokey black silver dapple?? __________________ Breeder of fine Gypsy Sport Horses http://www.freewebs.com/faewillow/ Equine Gifts at http://www.cafepress.com/faewillow

10-15-2009, 11:44 PM
AlbertaGirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alberta Posts: 3,906	The color looks a little off in that photo, but he looks like he carries the silver gene to me. I did a little research and apparently the silver gene is also called silver dapple, chocolate flax or Taffy gene. http://www.horse-genetics.com/silver-dapple.html __________________ Some people say horses don't have a sense of humor... they obviously haven't met mine yet ;o)

10-16-2009, 03:38 AM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 6,957	First glance, he screams 'Silver Dapple' to me. Silver Dapple is known as different terms in different breeds, including "Chocolate Palomino", "Chocolate", "Taffy", "Silver" etc... Baby fuzz versions of Silver can be very confusing to determine what they will be as adults. Silver Dapple is not really a 'dappled' color all the time. Most of the time they look a chocolatey brown to gray color with flaxen mane and tail, with or without dapples on the body. It's a gene that modifies black based horses. (ie, Black looks like the above pic. Bay would have a red body but that chocolatey color on the legs, and the bright flaxen mane/tail. Buckskin would have a gold body, chocolatey legs, and the flaxen mane/tail.) __________________ Custom stall signs and pet portraits, Wood Burned by hand with your equine's (or pet's) image: www.WoodburnedPetPortraits.com Self Defense Supplies, Stun Guns, Pepper Sprays: https://selfprotectionsupplies.com/

10-16-2009, 05:19 AM
Aspen3 Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NOrth Carolina Posts: 123	Silver dapple. I have seen alot of miniatures and shetland ponies that are this color. Janet

10-16-2009, 06:51 AM
kaykay Long Yearling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,213	I believe hes a silver bay which is very common in minis. This is his clipped coat but I but with full coat hes silver bay. You can see the reddish sheen on parts of his body. Handsome mini! __________________ Breeding AMHA/AMHR/ASPC horses in pinto colors! http://www.baxterspaintedpasture.com Visit our newest site! www.americanshetlandpony.com Miniature Horse Conformation Book by Kay Baxter Ask me about Weefoal mare pregnancy tests that you do on your farm!

10-16-2009, 08:23 AM
Jen&Jack Halter broke Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 151	Looks Silver dapple to me. I don't think silver bay though, there are 2 silver bays on the farm and all the silver modifies on them for the most part is the black points and the mane and tail. Turns the mane and tail light and the points dark chocolate brown.

10-16-2009, 09:25 AM
kaykay Long Yearling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,213	The correct term would be silver black. (silver diluting a black horse or some call it silver dapple horse) But I feel strongly he is not black based as he has obvious red in his coat. But silver does not show up on red so he almost has to be silver bay. It would help if you had pictures in his normal unclipped coat. You can see his lower legs are that muddied up color which is typical of the silver gene modifying black points. __________________ Breeding AMHA/AMHR/ASPC horses in pinto colors! http://www.baxterspaintedpasture.com Visit our newest site! www.americanshetlandpony.com Miniature Horse Conformation Book by Kay Baxter Ask me about Weefoal mare pregnancy tests that you do on your farm!

10-16-2009, 09:52 AM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 6,957	I could easily agree with kaykay - he is shaved for that pic, so the undercoat may be darker, and he could infact be a silver bay (silver dapple + bay) - with the shaving giving him the appearance of being less red in the body. __________________ Custom stall signs and pet portraits, Wood Burned by hand with your equine's (or pet's) image: www.WoodburnedPetPortraits.com Self Defense Supplies, Stun Guns, Pepper Sprays: https://selfprotectionsupplies.com/

10-16-2009, 12:35 PM
WhiskeyTango Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 44	I will get some more pictures Sunday of him. The breeder said he was born chestnut!But turned this color as he got older. His sire was spectacular bey, so he might be a silver bay! thanks for replying to me..I know alot of horse colors but not flamilar with this one!

10-18-2009, 03:08 PM
WhiskeyTango Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 44	He is def. a silver bay.Though now he has his long winter coat in and he is red with black points and a flaxen mane and tail.Shaved he is a totally diffrent looking horse!

10-21-2009, 11:21 PM
WhiskeyTango Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 44	This is him.Spectacular Bay Dream. I also bought a pretty palomino pinto mare too!

10-21-2009, 11:34 PM
Horselady44 Started Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 2,395	I donno what color he is ...as Im not familiar with mini's colors...but just had to say...he is stunning!!! __________________ A happy horse equals a happy rider!

10-22-2009, 04:47 AM
kaykay Long Yearling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,213	Thats exactly what I thought he would look like in winter coat. Now you can see the bay and the black points on the legs. Definitely a silver bay Kay __________________ Breeding AMHA/AMHR/ASPC horses in pinto colors! http://www.baxterspaintedpasture.com Visit our newest site! www.americanshetlandpony.com Miniature Horse Conformation Book by Kay Baxter Ask me about Weefoal mare pregnancy tests that you do on your farm!

10-22-2009, 08:12 AM
Jen&Jack Halter broke Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 151	Wow, after that last pic I am definitely changing my vote to silver bay! I work with Rockys and see A LOT of variations on the silver gene, but there is no mistaking that one!lol.

10-22-2009, 09:07 AM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 6,957	Yep - I fully back kaykay's opinion on silver bay as well. __________________ Custom stall signs and pet portraits, Wood Burned by hand with your equine's (or pet's) image: www.WoodburnedPetPortraits.com Self Defense Supplies, Stun Guns, Pepper Sprays: https://selfprotectionsupplies.com/