Questions regarding gelding a jack-kinda long sorry

cowtender · 03-22-2008, 05:27 PM

It was purely impulse. We were supposed to just get the bred Jenny, now we have her and her "boyfriend". They are both standard, and he is absolutely beautiful (i have attempted to upload pics, but i am not that savy). Anyway, here is the problem at hand. We currently have an intact mini jack that will be 10 in May. He has not ever shown any interest in the females-and that is all he has ever been with and not a single one ended up preggers, and is just as humble as can be, we have never really considered putting him thru the gelding process. We have not put these two together yet to see how they will get a long (the new jack was in a field with 3 other intacts and they were fine-and our mini is passive). I am thinking though of going ahead and get the new one cut. He is 6 and has bred many times, and the old owners said he will breed anything. If we geld him will that take care of this "desire" to breed?? Also, we don't know how he acts around a female in season, but if he is a "go-getter" will that take care of that as well??? I know this is kinda long, and rambling...sorry....

Oh, and my mini jack HATES cows, we could never put him in there with them, i was told it was because he was still intact. We have had him since he was 2. if we were to go ahead and have both cut, wonder if he would be able to "tolerate" them????
Sorry again for the ramble. and thanks for the advise!!!!

snickers · 03-22-2008, 08:14 PM

I may and it may not. Once a stud breeds, it still will have tendencies to act studdy.

Certain behavior does not go away with gelding. Dislike of other animals don't always change just because they are gelded.

If you do not plan on breeding, I do suggest gelding them both.
Acting one way at their home will not always be the same at a new one and jennies or mares in season can change one that is docile to a ranging testosterone in a second.

iris_surreal_euphoria · 03-23-2008, 10:50 AM

That's a tricky one really.

If the new one has bred many times gelding him probably will not get rid of the urge, I mean, no one will get preggos but fighting could take place.

As for the other one, there sounds like there is something going on reproductivly with him if he is turned out with females but no babies

My suggestion would be to go a head and geld them both but plan on building seperate fencing. A standard can kill a mini in a matter of minutes. I have seen thier fighting and it is horrible (2 minis). I think it would save you lots of heartache in the long run to house them seperate or geld and find a new home for the standard. IMO

missa · 03-23-2008, 05:18 PM

I would go ahead and geld both of them. But be forwarned that donkeys tend to bleed more when they are gelded. I have had a standard done before and last week had a mini done. The mini is still bleeding every now and then.

snickers · 03-23-2008, 05:33 PM

The spring and fall are the times to geld.

Certain ones will have a harder time, but if one is still bleeding after a week, there is something wrong there.

The most is a few days, seeping.

It will also have to do with your Vet. Some are just not good at gelding.

Make sure they get above the knot on the cord or they will have more stallion like tendencies. The knot is what produces the testosterone.

Bandit · 03-23-2008, 06:26 PM

I had JJ done a couple weeks ago. He is a 6 year old jack, so a bit older than some others. He had light bleed for a good 6 days. Vet said it was fine as long as he didn't overly swell (there was some, but not horrible amounts) and as long as it wasn't gushing blood. He said that jacks tend to bleed more and longer than a horse and swell more as well. JJ is fine and is healing real nicely.

Very different than the colts. The colts were done bleeding the day of and had little to no swelling.

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03-22-2008, 05:27 PM
cowtender Newborn Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NC Posts: 17	Questions regarding gelding a jack-kinda long sorry It was purely impulse. We were supposed to just get the bred Jenny, now we have her and her "boyfriend". They are both standard, and he is absolutely beautiful (i have attempted to upload pics, but i am not that savy). Anyway, here is the problem at hand. We currently have an intact mini jack that will be 10 in May. He has not ever shown any interest in the females-and that is all he has ever been with and not a single one ended up preggers, and is just as humble as can be, we have never really considered putting him thru the gelding process. We have not put these two together yet to see how they will get a long (the new jack was in a field with 3 other intacts and they were fine-and our mini is passive). I am thinking though of going ahead and get the new one cut. He is 6 and has bred many times, and the old owners said he will breed anything. If we geld him will that take care of this "desire" to breed?? Also, we don't know how he acts around a female in season, but if he is a "go-getter" will that take care of that as well??? I know this is kinda long, and rambling...sorry.... Oh, and my mini jack HATES cows, we could never put him in there with them, i was told it was because he was still intact. We have had him since he was 2. if we were to go ahead and have both cut, wonder if he would be able to "tolerate" them???? Sorry again for the ramble. and thanks for the advise!!!!

03-22-2008, 08:14 PM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 8,842	I may and it may not. Once a stud breeds, it still will have tendencies to act studdy. Certain behavior does not go away with gelding. Dislike of other animals don't always change just because they are gelded. If you do not plan on breeding, I do suggest gelding them both. Acting one way at their home will not always be the same at a new one and jennies or mares in season can change one that is docile to a ranging testosterone in a second. __________________ " You cant fix stupid " Ron White Life is to short to argue with ignorant people.

03-23-2008, 10:50 AM
iris_surreal_euphoria Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somerset, Kentucky Posts: 1,051	That's a tricky one really. If the new one has bred many times gelding him probably will not get rid of the urge, I mean, no one will get preggos but fighting could take place. As for the other one, there sounds like there is something going on reproductivly with him if he is turned out with females but no babies My suggestion would be to go a head and geld them both but plan on building seperate fencing. A standard can kill a mini in a matter of minutes. I have seen thier fighting and it is horrible (2 minis). I think it would save you lots of heartache in the long run to house them seperate or geld and find a new home for the standard. IMO __________________ If wishes were horses this room would need a good mucking! Visit our website: http://www.freewebs.com/lazziassacres/

03-23-2008, 05:18 PM
missa Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: oklahoma Posts: 821	I would go ahead and geld both of them. But be forwarned that donkeys tend to bleed more when they are gelded. I have had a standard done before and last week had a mini done. The mini is still bleeding every now and then.

03-23-2008, 05:33 PM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 8,842	The spring and fall are the times to geld. Certain ones will have a harder time, but if one is still bleeding after a week, there is something wrong there. The most is a few days, seeping. It will also have to do with your Vet. Some are just not good at gelding. Make sure they get above the knot on the cord or they will have more stallion like tendencies. The knot is what produces the testosterone. __________________ " You cant fix stupid " Ron White Life is to short to argue with ignorant people.

03-23-2008, 06:26 PM
Bandit Coming two Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 1,787	I had JJ done a couple weeks ago. He is a 6 year old jack, so a bit older than some others. He had light bleed for a good 6 days. Vet said it was fine as long as he didn't overly swell (there was some, but not horrible amounts) and as long as it wasn't gushing blood. He said that jacks tend to bleed more and longer than a horse and swell more as well. JJ is fine and is healing real nicely. Very different than the colts. The colts were done bleeding the day of and had little to no swelling. __________________