Thinking of breeding my buckskin??

[B2Buckskins]

A friend has a mammath jack that I just love and his kids are so nice and easy to work with John is Black so what would I get with him and my buckskin????


and this is my mare


this is Cinnamon a 2 yr old molly by John Becker and a Mustang mare

[gbarmranch]

It would be awfully pretty..

[Gotta Love Duns]

You should get a very nice looking foal!
They look to complement eachother very nicely.

If you are looking what they may possibly produce color wise this is a great site; https://www.animalgenetics.us/CCalculator1.asp

[iris_surreal_euphoria]

Wish I could be of help when it came to color, all I can say it would be a pretty match. Especailly if the jack's offspring are easy to handle! I'd say go for it, but I'm biased!

[B2Buckskins]

All his foals so far are dark bay or black, and I have bred Dixie to a bay and got a buckskinHe bred him to a red dun and thet had a peach mule, and boy is she pretty.
I would love to raise a mule to see how it turns out training like, we would keep it. Becker is 1 of the sweeties Jacks I have ever been around, but I have only been around maybe 15 or so. Just trying to deside what to do????

[Mule Fool]

I don't know anything about color genetics. Do you only want it if it comes out buckskin? You might ask on the breeding and genetics section of the forum. although I'm not sure if color genetics are the same for jacks. That typical mule color with the lighter mealy nose and flanks, I'm not sure what it's called (something like mangare?) Seems like it's pretty dominant. It seems like a while back some posted a pic of a nice buckskin mule foal they had bred. Hopefully they will see this and maybe they have some advice. Personally I've always wanted a buckskin mule. But don't tell that to Miss Jen.

[B2Buckskins]

Originally Posted by Mule Fool

I don't know anything about color genetics. Do you only want it if it comes out buckskin? You might ask on the breeding and genetics section of the forum. although I'm not sure if color genetics are the same for jacks. That typical mule color with the lighter mealy nose and flanks, I'm not sure what it's called (something like mangare?) Seems like it's pretty dominant. It seems like a while back some posted a pic of a nice buckskin mule foal they had bred. Hopefully they will see this and maybe they have some advice. Personally I've always wanted a buckskin mule. But don't tell that to Miss Jen.

Beleave it of not I don't care about the color just like to see what everyone thinks, I got my buckskin mare in trade and got a free breeding to the 2001 NFQHA in hand trail and got my filly. That year I got 2 buckskins and both was out of bay + buckskin crosses I bred my bay to a freinds buckskin stud and that my buckskin mare to a bay stud

[GottaGrin]

I am going to say you shouldnt do it.
Theres just to many good mules out there that are already on this earth. No need to breed another.
Same with horses to.
Not trying to be mean or anything either , just stating the obvious that gets over looked when talking babies. Heck I would love to have one or two babies a year , but as long the over population problem is as bad as it is , I wolnt.
Nor will tell a person that its ok to breed when they can buy the same thing or better..
Just my thoughts...

[B2Buckskins]

Originally Posted by GottaGrin

I am going to say you shouldnt do it.
Theres just to many good mules out there that are already on this earth. No need to breed another.
Same with horses to.
Not trying to be mean or anything either , just stating the obvious that gets over looked when talking babies. Heck I would love to have one or two babies a year , but as long the over population problem is as bad as it is , I wolnt.
Nor will tell a person that its ok to breed when they can buy the same thing or better..
Just my thoughts...

To each their own --If I get a mule it will come from my mare I raise all my own rides, I would someday like for Dixie to give me a mule foal. I am not going to bred for anyone but myself, It would be a keeper. The man who has the jack, Has a molly mule I just love and her name is Cinnamon, and she is a keeper. But I have a freind who has bought a lot of mules and has not got a good 1 yet. I want 1 from the ground up. And it wont be until my old mare is gone.
And right now people are giving horses away I know I have 1.

[GottaGrin]

Originally Posted by B2Buckskins

To each their own --If I get a mule it will come from my mare I raise all my own rides, I would someday like for Dixie to give me a mule foal. I am not going to bred for anyone but myself, It would be a keeper. The man who has the jack, Has a molly mule I just love and her name is Cinnamon, and she is a keeper. But I have a freind who has bought a lot of mules and has not got a good 1 yet. I want 1 from the ground up. And it wont be until my old mare is gone.
And right now people are giving horses away I know I have 1.

Im sorry , but your using one persons bad experiences to justify bringing another life into this unpredictable world.
Just because you have a baby out of your mare doesnt mean its going to be any better then the no name mule at an auction.
Breeding is a gamble , you don't get to pick an choose characteristcs that the foal will get , nor will you getthe desired personality.
As I said to earlier its a gamble. An in todays market its just morally wrong to breed somthing you can buy just as easily an cheaper!
=)

[roberts617]

The OP did not ask for any advice other than what she would get if she crossed her mare with this particular jack. It's completely her decision!

It would be a gorgeous baby!

[GottaGrin]

Originally Posted by roberts617

The OP did not ask for any advice other than what she would get if she crossed her mare with this particular jack. It's completely her decision!

It would be a gorgeous baby!

In todays market its unconscionable to condone the breeding of somthing that can be bought just as easily.

[roberts617]

Originally Posted by GottaGrin

In todays market its unconscionable to condone the breeding of somthing that can be bought just as easily.

Also solely your opinion. Who are you to regulate it? If a person takes responsibility for animals they breed, as she plans to, it is honestly none of your business if she chooses to. Doesn't matter what I think or anyone else for that matter, it's her horse, her decision.

[wollenberg6]

I agree...totally her decision, she is not breeding to sell. And mules are very tricky and can be hard to train. I agree with starting from a good mare, a good stud, and training early.

[PaintsQH]

Originally Posted by roberts617

Also solely your opinion. Who are you to regulate it? If a person takes responsibility for animals they breed, as she plans to, it is honestly none of your business if she chooses to. Doesn't matter what I think or anyone else for that matter, it's her horse, her decision.

I agree. She asked about color. Why buy something that you have no history on, that might end up being not what you want, trying to sell or give it away and then worry where the animal will end up. The OP is breeding to have the foal for herself, not to make a profit on a sale.

[GottaGrin]

Originally Posted by roberts617

Also solely your opinion. Who are you to regulate it? If a person takes responsibility for animals they breed, as she plans to, it is honestly none of your business if she chooses to. Doesn't matter what I think or anyone else for that matter, it's her horse, her decision.

Its opinions like this that are dooming the horse industry to forever be stuck in a rut.
Every equine bred contributes to the problem of over population.

Theres more then enough quality breeders out there , why breed one that still has no gurantee of anything good coming of it.
Buying at least gives you the oppurtunity to see the conformation of the animal , allows you to know what kind of personality you'll be getting.
Breeding your own precious mare is no gurantee , plus the OP WILL be risking the mares life.

[GottaGrin]

Originally Posted by PaintsQH

I agree. She asked about color. Why buy something that you have no history on, that might end up being not what you want, trying to sell or give it away and then worry where the animal will end up. The OP is breeding to have the foal for herself, not to make a profit on a sale.

When did breeding anything become a gurantee? You cannot gurantee a foal will even be born alive? You don't get to pick anything other then who gets bred. The rest is up to genetics an genetics arent 100% all the time either.

Im voicing my opinion , somthing that I also have the right to do.
=)

[rm185western]

I don't want to get involved in the whole 'should she, shouldn't she breed' debate, but just as a general question, what are the market conditions for long ears?? I have no idea if they are in the same or similair position as the horse market.

[gbarmranch]

*Dons Moderator Cap*

Please stick to the OPs original question - which was not wether they should breed or not breed. Thank you!

[roberts617]

Originally Posted by GottaGrin

Im voicing my opinion , somthing that I also have the right to do.
=)

Absolutely! I agree, but I'm just trying to keep the thread on topic. If you want to argue breeding, start your own thread to do so! This is her thread, and she did not ask for you to criticize her for choosing to breed her mare, only opinions as to what color she would get.