I have a question???

dreamer1 · 05-22-2008, 04:33 PM

I was just wondering if the pics we post are protected? I know it's our choice to post them and millions view them..If they are not safe when we post pics if we choose can we write not to be copied without written premission from copyright owner? I just found out photobucket is not a safe place to put your pics..what bought this up was the other night I could not get into my photobucket account kept telling me to many failed attemps

..so I did a search and Bam I was in to my pics without a pass word...

I am just curious

**beth55051** · 05-22-2008, 04:37 PM

I'll forward this one to JuCo. She can probably answer it better than I can.

But no I don't think it's really possible to completly safeguard anything that's posted on the internet. Even a copyrighted photo can still be stolen.

Lil Bits · 05-22-2008, 05:07 PM

Are you worried because I copied your picture? I wouldn't have done it if I wasn't going to send the drawing to you.

There is a new law that is being voted on in Congress right now. They are trying to make registries for any kind of printed artwork or photo. Each registry you have to pay to register your photo or artwork so that no one else can use it. If you don't and someone else registers it then it becomes theirs and you are fined if you end up printing or posting your own work.
It's already passed the house and has moved on to the Senate. My brother thinks that this particular bill is probably part of some much larger one and that's why it's been voted through and is going through so fast. This law includes any family photos that a person might take not just from artists or photographers. I hope it dies in the Senate.

Amanda

dreamer1 · 05-22-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Bits

Are you worried because I copied your picture? I wouldn't have done it if I wasn't going to send the drawing to you.

There is a new law that is being voted on in Congress right now. They are trying to make registries for any kind of printed artwork or photo. Each registry you have to pay to register your photo or artwork so that no one else can use it. If you don't and someone else registers it then it becomes theirs and you are fined if you end up printing or posting your own work.
It's already passed the house and has moved on to the Senate. My brother thinks that this particular bill is probably part of some much larger one and that's why it's been voted through and is going through so fast. This law includes any family photos that a person might take not just from artists or photographers. I hope it dies in the Senate.

Amanda

No this is'nt because you copied my picture...I was just wondering..I have found someone elses picture being used somewhere.And being I am in the progress of starting my business I did'nt want someone else to beable to use my photos as "THEIRS"..I posted pics on a photo forum and they removed them and told me they weren't mine

and it was pics of Amadeus and Dixie...so I was just wondering...

Just_Another_Love007 · 05-22-2008, 08:46 PM

dreamer:

you can put no right click codes and you can also do other things and put a big copyrite on a picture so people dont steal it. for example: brandy johnson has her own buisness http://www.brandyjohnsonphotos.com/ and if you go to the gallery you cant copy the pictures at all and they have her signature/copyrite on them

**taelesean** · 05-22-2008, 10:21 PM

Your best bet to protect your pictures that you post on the web is to put a watermark in the image that identifies it as yours.

I can get around no right click codes, I can get around mouseover image swaps, and even copynot codes.

Photobucket is not a secure place to store photos, nor is it meant to be, it's for distributing images. You can, however, set your albums to private - then the only way to see your pics is to know exactly where they are and what the filena me is, or to follow your links, but no-one can surf your albums.

**JuCo** · 05-23-2008, 01:19 PM

Hi,

I'm the community manager from Internet Brands, the company that acquired Horsetopia.

Everyone here has been posting good information! You own the copyright of your photos (neither HT nor Internet Brands does). The best way to protect your photos is with a watermark and we will be implementing other technical protections, as well.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to PM me.

Thanks,
JuCo

dreamer1 · 05-23-2008, 05:36 PM

Thanks everyone for all the great info...

sidepasser · 05-23-2008, 08:14 PM

Ok straight from the Copyright office, here is the law regarding copyright and fair use:

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

the nature of the copyrighted work;

amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission.

The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author's observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.”

Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work.

The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission.

When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of “fair use” would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered “fair” nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney.

FL-102, Revised July 2006

Always best to go straight to the "horse's mouth" when you have questions. But if someone is taking your photo's for educational use, illustrative use, etc. and is not profiting from it, and follows the guidelines above..I would think one would have a very, very hard time suing..of course I am not an attorney and so a consultation with a copyright attorney is suggested.

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05-22-2008, 04:33 PM
dreamer1 Seasoned Join Date: May 2007 Location: with my horses Posts: 4,347	I have a question??? I was just wondering if the pics we post are protected? I know it's our choice to post them and millions view them..If they are not safe when we post pics if we choose can we write not to be copied without written premission from copyright owner? I just found out photobucket is not a safe place to put your pics..what bought this up was the other night I could not get into my photobucket account kept telling me to many failed attemps..so I did a search and Bam I was in to my pics without a pass word...I am just curious __________________ "A true friend is someone who thinks that you are a good egg even though he knows that you are slightly cracked."

05-22-2008, 04:37 PM
beth55051 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Central Minnesota Posts: 4,738	I'll forward this one to JuCo. She can probably answer it better than I can. But no I don't think it's really possible to completly safeguard anything that's posted on the internet. Even a copyrighted photo can still be stolen. __________________ Do not mind anything that anyone tells you about anyone else. Judge everyone and everything for yourself.

05-22-2008, 05:07 PM
Lil Bits Weanling Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 314	Are you worried because I copied your picture? I wouldn't have done it if I wasn't going to send the drawing to you. There is a new law that is being voted on in Congress right now. They are trying to make registries for any kind of printed artwork or photo. Each registry you have to pay to register your photo or artwork so that no one else can use it. If you don't and someone else registers it then it becomes theirs and you are fined if you end up printing or posting your own work. It's already passed the house and has moved on to the Senate. My brother thinks that this particular bill is probably part of some much larger one and that's why it's been voted through and is going through so fast. This law includes any family photos that a person might take not just from artists or photographers. I hope it dies in the Senate. Amanda

05-22-2008, 08:46 PM
Just_Another_Love007 Weanling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: florida Posts: 404	dreamer: you can put no right click codes and you can also do other things and put a big copyrite on a picture so people dont steal it. for example: brandy johnson has her own buisness http://www.brandyjohnsonphotos.com/ and if you go to the gallery you cant copy the pictures at all and they have her signature/copyrite on them

05-22-2008, 10:21 PM
taelesean Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,675	Your best bet to protect your pictures that you post on the web is to put a watermark in the image that identifies it as yours. I can get around no right click codes, I can get around mouseover image swaps, and even copynot codes. Photobucket is not a secure place to store photos, nor is it meant to be, it's for distributing images. You can, however, set your albums to private - then the only way to see your pics is to know exactly where they are and what the filena me is, or to follow your links, but no-one can surf your albums. __________________

05-23-2008, 01:19 PM
JuCo Administrator Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13	Hi, I'm the community manager from Internet Brands, the company that acquired Horsetopia. Everyone here has been posting good information! You own the copyright of your photos (neither HT nor Internet Brands does). The best way to protect your photos is with a watermark and we will be implementing other technical protections, as well. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to PM me. Thanks, JuCo

05-23-2008, 05:36 PM
dreamer1 Seasoned Join Date: May 2007 Location: with my horses Posts: 4,347	Thanks everyone for all the great info... __________________ "A true friend is someone who thinks that you are a good egg even though he knows that you are slightly cracked."

05-23-2008, 08:14 PM
sidepasser Halter broke Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 61	Ok straight from the Copyright office, here is the law regarding copyright and fair use: http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair: the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; the nature of the copyrighted work; amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission. The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author's observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.” Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work. The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission. When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of “fair use” would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered “fair” nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney. FL-102, Revised July 2006 Always best to go straight to the "horse's mouth" when you have questions. But if someone is taking your photo's for educational use, illustrative use, etc. and is not profiting from it, and follows the guidelines above..I would think one would have a very, very hard time suing..of course I am not an attorney and so a consultation with a copyright attorney is suggested.