Chipping within hours of farrier visit?? Mustang roll?

[niknchris2]

I've noticed the last couple of times our farrier has been out (which I'm not real crazy about lately) our horse's feet are chipping within hours/days of his visit... Is this normal? We had an awesome farrier before and didn't have chipping for weeks but now that he is not doing farrier work any longer we had to find someone else. Should I be looking for a new farrier?

Also, has anyone heard of the mustang roll? What is it and the purpose??

[niknchris2]

Hello? Anyone out there this morning???? I see you looking...

[prancingpony]

If your horses feet are chipping shortly after being trimmed, I would think that your farrier is not taking enough hoof off. Do you have photos??

[BarnBum]

Maybe the new farrier isn't rounding the toes or taking enough off.

Things to also consider dry/brittle hooves. Consider a supplement.

[Freedomnchrist]

I was told that "some" chipping is normal....like small chips.

My horses have been chipping for a couple of days now. Not big chunks...just chipping. But I had a bad farrier before who shod them wrong. So they had weak walls.

I was told that if they have big chunks coming off...you may want to call the farrier back.

[niknchris2]

No photos right now but its not just small chipping in my opinion compared to what the previus farrier did. I've heard the supplements before but the terrain nor the food have changed so I was leaning more toward the farrier work being less then their food/supplements.

[horses4me]

I just changed farriers,, mine wasnt taking off the edges leaving 'flares" and also my horses didnt have much heel. Now that i have swtiched my horses feet are already looking much better!! But maybe you need to put something on their feet to keep them moist, are you in sandy or dry area?

[niknchris2]

He doesn't round the toe at all from what I can tell. He trims them just like if he was going to shoe them and their all barefoot.... I think this is the reason for the chipping but I'm still pretty new in the horse world and wanted more opinions...

[niknchris2]

Dry area I would say yes just because of the weather and this time of the year but they did not do this prior (old farrier) and nothing has changed on the horse end.

[Freedomnchrist]

Originally Posted by niknchris2

Dry area I would say yes just because of the weather and this time of the year but they did not do this prior (old farrier) and nothing has changed on the horse end.

You can overfill your water trough and let the water spill over so when they go to get a drink...they will be getting their feet wet in the mud. It really helps....I do this every time I fill the water back up.

Leadmare is really wonderful with horses feet and I am sure she would not mind if you Pm'd her with your questions. She has helped me a lot!

[fishing_trex]

If he trims just like he is going to put on a shoe, that's probably not really a natural trim. Does he cut off sole and frog? If so, he shouldn't unless absolutely necessary.

My farrier does what he calls a High Performance Trim and always rounds off the toes. It's not a mustang roll (which is another way to round the toe), but similar. His focus is on balancing the hoof capsule and allowing the correct pressure to simulate the hoof properly. Most farriers that trim as if shoes are going to be put on do not worry about this type of balance -- they are more into "static balance" -- hoof angles, etc.

The mustang roll is part of the trimming method that trims domestic barefoot horses as if they were wild barefoot horses. Some agree with this; others do not, as our domestic horses are not wild mustangs and live differently.

Some chipping with a barefoot horse is inevitable, particularly on gravel. It can be due to dry hooves, but that is not necessarily the case. I rode my mare hard on gravel during the wet season, and she still had some chipping, albeit very slight. If your horse's feet are chipping right away, I might think it was due to the way they are being trimmed.

[Freedomnchrist]

Originally Posted by fishing_trex

If he trims just like he is going to put on a shoe, that's probably not really a natural trim. Does he cut off sole and frog? If so, he shouldn't unless absolutely necessary.

My farrier does what he calls a High Performance Trim and always rounds off the toes. It's not a mustang roll (which is another way to round the toe), but similar. His focus is on balancing the hoof capsule and allowing the correct pressure to simulate the hoof properly. Most farriers that trim as if shoes are going to be put on do not worry about this type of balance -- they are more into "static balance" -- hoof angles, etc.

The mustang roll is part of the trimming method that trims domestic barefoot horses as if they were wild barefoot horses. Some agree with this; others do not, as our domestic horses are not wild mustangs and live differently.

Some chipping with a barefoot horse is inevitable, particularly on gravel. It can be due to dry hooves, but that is not necessarily the case. I rode my mare hard on gravel during the wet season, and she still had some chipping, albeit very slight. If your horse's feet are chipping right away, I might think it was due to the way they are being trimmed.

Great post!

[horselady]

If you are haveing a gut feeling that the new farrier is not trimming like the other farrier. and the feet are chipping days after a trim than you are probable right.
Need to trim for a barefoot not for a foot that needs a shoe. Altogether different.

[cameo05]

Mine are doing the same this year. They are trimmed and shod every 6 weeks on the dot. It is so dry this year that this is happening, atleast on my end. All I can do is try to keep them as moist as I can.

[niknchris2]

I totally agree with what your saying I was just concerned because we've had them for two years now and have never experienced this and their conditioned have not changed in the pasture or the riding times or places. I'm thinking its the way he is trimming them. A friend of mine referred me to another farrier and we might try him next time. She says he doesn't do the mustang roll but does something similar so the chipping is less and makes the "walls" stronger.

Two of our hores are mustangs so I thought the mustang roll might work for them but again I'm new at this

[Freedomnchrist]

Originally Posted by niknchris2

I totally agree with what your saying I was just concerned because we've had them for two years now and have never experienced this and their conditioned have not changed in the pasture or the riding times or places. I'm thinking its the way he is trimming them. A friend of mine referred me to another farrier and we might try him next time. She says he doesn't do the mustang roll but does something similar so the chipping is less and makes the "walls" stronger.

Two of our hores are mustangs so I thought the mustang roll might work for them but again I'm new at this

I agree with the rest then...go with your gut....try another next time.

[cameo05]

There have been no change in mine either. My farrier did change, but this has happened before him and since him. Last year or any of the years before, I did not have this issue at all... Even with the same farrier:laughing6

I have had one of mine for 18 years and the other ranging from 1 to 4 years:

[niknchris2]

We've actually gotten more rain this year then last this time of the year so I strongly believe its not the weather.......

[niknchris2]

Thank you all for your great advice........ I think I'm going to try the new farrier and go from there.

[cameo05]

If you feel that strongly then yes try another farrier. Mine are the dry conditions. I don't like it worth a dern either. Good luck, I hope a new farrier is the answer for you and your horses.