Signs of founder??

DriftwoodAcres · 06-17-2008, 12:03 PM

Well, I thought I'd be better off to look stupid now, then have a foundered horse(and not know it) later

We got Katrina's mom for free lease untill she is weaned. And she just HAD to be the one that has foundered before

I think they are supposed to founder easily once they've had it. I've personally never had a horse founder before, and I'm afriad I won't know it if it happens

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Sooo; what are the signs of founder? Pictures would be great, if they are noticeable from the outside....

Hideaway · 06-17-2008, 12:21 PM

I don't have photos but a hard cresty neck is a good sign, as well as heat in the coronary band. If it's already set in the horse can look as if it's rocking back and putting most of it's weight on the hind end. In full out cases the horse will tip toe around putting little weight on the front.

When I feel the cresty neck, and warm feet, I immediately pull the horse off all grass and stand them in a stream or cold bucket of water at least twice a day. Banamine helps too.

What are you feeding the mare? Sweet feed mixed with grass can be a disaster for a foundered horse.

DriftwoodAcres · 06-17-2008, 01:13 PM

She is out on full pasture right now, but we might start gradually putting her in at night, as the pasture is getting low...

**seerfarm** · 06-17-2008, 03:07 PM

I have added a few links for you that go into good detail and are very informative...I hope they are useful.

http://www.recoveryeq.com/laminitis_founder.htm

http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/health/tha-founder.shtml

http://home.mcn.net/~kerryo/founder.htm

http://www.xcodesign.com/aaep/rounds...ics.cfm?cat=11

joustinggirl · 06-17-2008, 06:01 PM

I have owned thick cresty horses that never foundered and were out 24/7 all year long. I also have a horse that may have foundered but has no rotation. My vet said that he calls any kind of nutritional factor that changes the growth of the hoof a founder. We were talking about my new horse that has very faint, small ridges on her hoof that are growing out. She was starved and then changed hands and was being fed again. So the hoof did not grow while she was starved, then grew fast when she started getting feed again.

He also said that if they "founder" but do not have rotation they are not any more likely to founder than any other horse.

I have a thread with pictures of her hooves.

Drafty · 06-17-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joustinggirl

I have owned thick cresty horses that never foundered and were out 24/7 all year long. I also have a horse that may have foundered but has no rotation. My vet said that he calls any kind of nutritional factor that changes the growth of the hoof a founder. We were talking about my new horse that has very faint, small ridges on her hoof that are growing out. She was starved and then changed hands and was being fed again. So the hoof did not grow while she was starved, then grew fast when she started getting feed again.

He also said that if they "founder" but do not have rotation they are not any more likely to founder than any other horse.

I have a thread with pictures of her hooves.

Thank you for saving me some time -- I was about to say the exact same thing!

oveywon · 06-17-2008, 06:46 PM

also can anyone clarify the heat in the hoof of a laminitic horse? Is it just the coronary band or is it the entire hoof? I've read the pronounced digital pulse is the most definite sign, but I've heard various things on the heat in the hoof. Will the temperature of the coronary band be elevated any time the horse has a fever? I've also heard, by the time you have hot hooves, the majority of the damage is done. Is this true?

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06-17-2008, 12:03 PM
DriftwoodAcres Weanling Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 457	Signs of founder?? Well, I thought I'd be better off to look stupid now, then have a foundered horse(and not know it) laterWe got Katrina's mom for free lease untill she is weaned. And she just HAD to be the one that has foundered before I think they are supposed to founder easily once they've had it. I've personally never had a horse founder before, and I'm afriad I won't know it if it happens. Sooo; what are the signs of founder? Pictures would be great, if they are noticeable from the outside.... __________________ P.eople E.ating T.asty A.nimals

06-17-2008, 12:21 PM
Hideaway Coming two Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA Posts: 1,935	I don't have photos but a hard cresty neck is a good sign, as well as heat in the coronary band. If it's already set in the horse can look as if it's rocking back and putting most of it's weight on the hind end. In full out cases the horse will tip toe around putting little weight on the front. When I feel the cresty neck, and warm feet, I immediately pull the horse off all grass and stand them in a stream or cold bucket of water at least twice a day. Banamine helps too. What are you feeding the mare? Sweet feed mixed with grass can be a disaster for a foundered horse. __________________ Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History

06-17-2008, 01:13 PM
DriftwoodAcres Weanling Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 457	She is out on full pasture right now, but we might start gradually putting her in at night, as the pasture is getting low... __________________ P.eople E.ating T.asty A.nimals

06-17-2008, 03:07 PM
seerfarm Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portal, Ga Posts: 7,732	I have added a few links for you that go into good detail and are very informative...I hope they are useful. http://www.recoveryeq.com/laminitis_founder.htm http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/health/tha-founder.shtml http://home.mcn.net/~kerryo/founder.htm http://www.xcodesign.com/aaep/rounds...ics.cfm?cat=11 __________________ "To know the road ahead, ask those coming back".

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joustinggirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boones Mill, Virgina Posts: 3,326	I have owned thick cresty horses that never foundered and were out 24/7 all year long. I also have a horse that may have foundered but has no rotation. My vet said that he calls any kind of nutritional factor that changes the growth of the hoof a founder. We were talking about my new horse that has very faint, small ridges on her hoof that are growing out. She was starved and then changed hands and was being fed again. So the hoof did not grow while she was starved, then grew fast when she started getting feed again. He also said that if they "founder" but do not have rotation they are not any more likely to founder than any other horse. I have a thread with pictures of her hooves. __________________ Pink Tiger says \'Grrrrrr\'

06-17-2008, 06:46 PM
oveywon Started Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,005	also can anyone clarify the heat in the hoof of a laminitic horse? Is it just the coronary band or is it the entire hoof? I've read the pronounced digital pulse is the most definite sign, but I've heard various things on the heat in the hoof. Will the temperature of the coronary band be elevated any time the horse has a fever? I've also heard, by the time you have hot hooves, the majority of the damage is done. Is this true? __________________ This Holiday Season remember ... That the place God chose for the birth of His only son was not a church, or a palace, but the home of animals - a stable.