Is something wrong with his hooves? *UPDATE WITH PICS*

For8tune · 06-08-2008, 11:22 PM

My Arabian's front hooves look weird to me. His left front hoof looks more spread out compared to his left hoof. I use to own this Arabian 6 years ago and they never looked like this. For the past 6 years, the lady who owned him had her farrier do his feet and I got him back with his feet looking like this. Is it just me or do his feet look differant? Is it something to worry about? He is coming up a trim next month. Is there anything I need to tell my farrier to help correct this if it is a problem?

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...Bothhooves.jpg

I hope the picture works. First time doing it. If it doesn't please let me know.

bitgirl_95 · 06-08-2008, 11:28 PM

it looks like he needs a trim but it could have been that farrier

Thoroughbred Lady · 06-08-2008, 11:31 PM

Looks like an uneven series of trims to me.

JoesLove · 06-08-2008, 11:34 PM

The two hooves definitely look a bit different. Im sure with your new farrier and some time they can get back into good shape. But I dont think his hooves look bad, in my opinion, just different! :P

**seerfarm** · 06-09-2008, 06:24 AM

Have seen some much worse, but yes he is indeed different. It appears that he has quite a bit of heel and steep side walls on both and is flairing on his quarters on his left front. Hopefully your new farrier will see the flairing and begin to make the proper adjustments. Most farriers are more than happy to show and explain what they see going on and there plans for correction...just ask or point out your concerns.

BarnBum · 06-09-2008, 06:41 AM

I agree with everyone, series of bad trims. Easily fixed by your farrier.

readytogo · 06-09-2008, 07:17 AM

hard to tell from the pics, but probably just needs a good trim. What does the frog look like in the RF? Maybe he looks a little contracted?

David · 06-09-2008, 07:21 AM

I don't necessarily think it was even bad trims. I just see that the left hoof is flared more than the right hoof. This could have happened since the last trim. Maybe this horse paws with the right foot when eating or maybe it stands with all its weight on the left foot a lot. Either way, I would hesitate to say bad farrier just from this picture. Also, it should be a fairly easy fix, judging by the picture.

lelo2006 · 06-10-2008, 03:23 PM

Have to agree with everyone. Just a ferrier who did an uneven trim on both feet. It'll get better as soon as you get a trim on him done. No biggie and nothing to worry about.

For8tune · 06-10-2008, 03:46 PM

OK no worries but I spoke to an equine vet friend of mine that may think it could be ringbone or sidebone. She recommend x-rays to rule them out. Other than that she said he could just be shifting his weight to one side. I am not too familiar with ringbone or sidebone and my horse has no lameness issues what so ever. I am having him trimmed soon and I guess will ask my farrier what he thinks. We will see.

DoBeSassy · 06-10-2008, 05:41 PM

I can see a difference, but everyone else has already said what I was going to, so I will just wish you luck with getting it fixed

Luvridn · 06-10-2008, 09:08 PM

It looks like a flare to me too.

Try this site...it has loads and loads of great pictures about different hooves and problems. I learned a lot about identifying different abnormalities from it.

http://www.ironfreehoof.com/top.htm

EquineAlberta · 06-10-2008, 10:37 PM

when I first saw the picture the first thing that came to my mind is; lame RF over a long period of time (could be on off, or something serious a while back that was never corrected). I agree with x-rays and perhaps flexions. I don't think it is simply a farrier issue, although the farrier should have noticed this and commented.

Good luck with your boy.

Karen

CatsTack · 06-11-2008, 03:24 PM

It looks like these feet have been trimmed incorrectly. This looks like a "pasture trim".

There's so-o-o much info on the internet. Definitely visit ironfreehorse.com and do a search on "barefoot trim", or "natural trim", or "mustang trim". You'll find lots of great info.

Good luck

Karen Cole · 06-24-2008, 07:17 AM

I looked at the photos last nite with my husband it looks like the RF might be clubbed and the LF normal but that the horse does need to be trimmed. A good Farrier or Blacksmith can trim a club footed horse so well that unless they tell you, you may not know the horse is even clubfooted. Several bad trims however will make it stand out. I'd not worry to much but if you can get the Farrier you used before you sold him to do the horse I'd sure ask his thoughts.

Karen

PaintsQH · 06-24-2008, 07:40 AM

My gelding's hoof does the same thing. He wears front shoes. the left always flares out like that. No two horses are alike. Their hooves grow different and its rare that both will have identical angles. the right one is a little more upright, which isnt a bad thing, but when the opposite hoof keeps growing or looking like that and the horse is uneven, you might have problems. Have the new farrier check the angle after he trims him. Mine does. My horse also paws. He has a long history of hoof problems and was like that when I got him. No sole, hoof wall etc. It takes time. A good trim (might take several) should get him looking better

CatsTack · 06-26-2008, 03:47 PM

Any updates?

Even though we only have one picture to look at, the RF is not a club foot. The RF is actually the better of the 2 pictured. I've worked on a true club foot. Lots of feet can be 'clubby' type feet. However in a true club foot the bones are actually out of whack, not just the foot.

The reason the feet are chipping is because the foot has no roll to it.

For8tune · 06-29-2008, 01:44 PM

I did have a farrier come by and trim Fortune's feet. They look much better. Fortune doesn't have a club foot or founder but the farrier informed me that whoever had been doing his feet in the past really messed them up and was trimming them unevenly which was causing the flare on the LF causing him to put all his weight on that foot. He said if the past farrier kept doing his feet, Fortune would have eventally gone lame. I haven't had my sweet boy long and would have just been devistated if he went lame. So he is on the books every 7 weeks for trims till we get it under control with the flare. I think everything will be fine. He even rides better now.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ne/Hooves2.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ne/Hooves1.jpg

CatsTack · 07-08-2008, 08:23 AM

What a difference! Now all you need is time.

Freedomnchrist · 07-08-2008, 08:26 AM

He is such a pretty boy if that is him in your avatar!

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06-08-2008, 11:22 PM
For8tune Weanling Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 265	Is something wrong with his hooves? UPDATE WITH PICS My Arabian's front hooves look weird to me. His left front hoof looks more spread out compared to his left hoof. I use to own this Arabian 6 years ago and they never looked like this. For the past 6 years, the lady who owned him had her farrier do his feet and I got him back with his feet looking like this. Is it just me or do his feet look differant? Is it something to worry about? He is coming up a trim next month. Is there anything I need to tell my farrier to help correct this if it is a problem? http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...Bothhooves.jpg I hope the picture works. First time doing it. If it doesn't please let me know. __________________ Proud Mom to a Spoiled Rotten Arabian Gelding ~Fame Fortune~ Last edited by For8tune : 07-01-2008 at 09:25 AM.

06-08-2008, 11:28 PM
bitgirl_95 Weanling Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 494	it looks like he needs a trim but it could have been that farrier __________________ Merry Christmas!

06-08-2008, 11:31 PM
Thoroughbred Lady Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 199	Looks like an uneven series of trims to me. __________________ The World Looks Better From The Back Of A Horse.

06-08-2008, 11:34 PM
JoesLove Weanling Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 357	The two hooves definitely look a bit different. Im sure with your new farrier and some time they can get back into good shape. But I dont think his hooves look bad, in my opinion, just different! :P

06-09-2008, 06:24 AM
seerfarm Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portal, Ga Posts: 7,732	Have seen some much worse, but yes he is indeed different. It appears that he has quite a bit of heel and steep side walls on both and is flairing on his quarters on his left front. Hopefully your new farrier will see the flairing and begin to make the proper adjustments. Most farriers are more than happy to show and explain what they see going on and there plans for correction...just ask or point out your concerns. __________________ "To know the road ahead, ask those coming back". Last edited by seerfarm : 06-09-2008 at 07:55 AM.

06-09-2008, 06:41 AM
BarnBum Greenbroke Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 3,542	I agree with everyone, series of bad trims. Easily fixed by your farrier. __________________ Murphys Horse Law - A horse's misbehavior will be in direct proportion to the number of people who are watching !!

06-09-2008, 07:17 AM
readytogo Yearling Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pa. Posts: 522	hard to tell from the pics, but probably just needs a good trim. What does the frog look like in the RF? Maybe he looks a little contracted?

06-09-2008, 07:21 AM
David Long Yearling Join Date: May 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,066	I don't necessarily think it was even bad trims. I just see that the left hoof is flared more than the right hoof. This could have happened since the last trim. Maybe this horse paws with the right foot when eating or maybe it stands with all its weight on the left foot a lot. Either way, I would hesitate to say bad farrier just from this picture. Also, it should be a fairly easy fix, judging by the picture. __________________ "If you see your stirrups slap together above the horn, you're probably bucked off". Dave Stamey.

06-10-2008, 03:23 PM
lelo2006 Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 873	Have to agree with everyone. Just a ferrier who did an uneven trim on both feet. It'll get better as soon as you get a trim on him done. No biggie and nothing to worry about. __________________ I love the smell of horse's in the morning. WRERS: Edmonton Based Horse Rescue. www.albertahorserescue.com

06-10-2008, 03:46 PM
For8tune Weanling Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 265	OK no worries but I spoke to an equine vet friend of mine that may think it could be ringbone or sidebone. She recommend x-rays to rule them out. Other than that she said he could just be shifting his weight to one side. I am not too familiar with ringbone or sidebone and my horse has no lameness issues what so ever. I am having him trimmed soon and I guess will ask my farrier what he thinks. We will see. __________________ Proud Mom to a Spoiled Rotten Arabian Gelding ~Fame Fortune~

07-08-2008, 08:23 AM
CatsTack Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NC Posts: 106	What a difference! Now all you need is time. __________________ Handmade tack including rope halters, leads, barrel reins, trail reins, and rhythm beads www.catstack.com

06-10-2008, 05:41 PM
DoBeSassy Seasoned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 4,927	I can see a difference, but everyone else has already said what I was going to, so I will just wish you luck with getting it fixed __________________ There is none so blind as she who will not see

06-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Luvridn Long Yearling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 1,053	It looks like a flare to me too. Try this site...it has loads and loads of great pictures about different hooves and problems. I learned a lot about identifying different abnormalities from it. http://www.ironfreehoof.com/top.htm __________________ If your horse wants to bolt, there is probably a nut loose in the saddle! PP

06-10-2008, 10:37 PM
EquineAlberta Seasoned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,425	when I first saw the picture the first thing that came to my mind is; lame RF over a long period of time (could be on off, or something serious a while back that was never corrected). I agree with x-rays and perhaps flexions. I don't think it is simply a farrier issue, although the farrier should have noticed this and commented. Good luck with your boy. Karen __________________ Hillside Stable, Ardrossan, AB Do unto others as you would have them do unto you...is it really that hard?

06-11-2008, 03:24 PM
CatsTack Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NC Posts: 106	It looks like these feet have been trimmed incorrectly. This looks like a "pasture trim". There's so-o-o much info on the internet. Definitely visit ironfreehorse.com and do a search on "barefoot trim", or "natural trim", or "mustang trim". You'll find lots of great info. Good luck __________________ Handmade tack including rope halters, leads, barrel reins, trail reins, and rhythm beads www.catstack.com

06-24-2008, 07:17 AM
Karen Cole Long Yearling Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,330	I looked at the photos last nite with my husband it looks like the RF might be clubbed and the LF normal but that the horse does need to be trimmed. A good Farrier or Blacksmith can trim a club footed horse so well that unless they tell you, you may not know the horse is even clubfooted. Several bad trims however will make it stand out. I'd not worry to much but if you can get the Farrier you used before you sold him to do the horse I'd sure ask his thoughts. Karen

06-24-2008, 07:40 AM
PaintsQH Started Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,417	My gelding's hoof does the same thing. He wears front shoes. the left always flares out like that. No two horses are alike. Their hooves grow different and its rare that both will have identical angles. the right one is a little more upright, which isnt a bad thing, but when the opposite hoof keeps growing or looking like that and the horse is uneven, you might have problems. Have the new farrier check the angle after he trims him. Mine does. My horse also paws. He has a long history of hoof problems and was like that when I got him. No sole, hoof wall etc. It takes time. A good trim (might take several) should get him looking better __________________ My treasures do not clink, they gleam in the sunlight and neigh in the night

06-26-2008, 03:47 PM
CatsTack Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NC Posts: 106	Any updates? Even though we only have one picture to look at, the RF is not a club foot. The RF is actually the better of the 2 pictured. I've worked on a true club foot. Lots of feet can be 'clubby' type feet. However in a true club foot the bones are actually out of whack, not just the foot. The reason the feet are chipping is because the foot has no roll to it. __________________ Handmade tack including rope halters, leads, barrel reins, trail reins, and rhythm beads www.catstack.com

06-29-2008, 01:44 PM
For8tune Weanling Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 265	*UPDATE New Pics* I did have a farrier come by and trim Fortune's feet. They look much better. Fortune doesn't have a club foot or founder but the farrier informed me that whoever had been doing his feet in the past really messed them up and was trimming them unevenly which was causing the flare on the LF causing him to put all his weight on that foot. He said if the past farrier kept doing his feet, Fortune would have eventally gone lame. I haven't had my sweet boy long and would have just been devistated if he went lame. So he is on the books every 7 weeks for trims till we get it under control with the flare. I think everything will be fine. He even rides better now. http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ne/Hooves2.jpg http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...ne/Hooves1.jpg __________________ Proud Mom to a Spoiled Rotten Arabian Gelding ~Fame Fortune~ Last edited by For8tune : 06-30-2008 at 09:06 PM.

07-08-2008, 08:26 AM
Freedomnchrist Greenbroke Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,312	He is such a pretty boy if that is him in your avatar!