UPDATE!!! Pronounced Lameness - Vet or Farrier? - Page 2

cameo05 · 03-05-2008, 11:12 AM

I cannot comment on the founder or the shoulder as I haven't had those problems yet, but I hope that everything does go well and you have done right by getting both farrier and vet out. That way all aspects are covered.

rubysrider · 03-05-2008, 11:42 AM

Don't you just love great farriers!! Mine are that way too. I think what you are doing for him is fine, you're doing the very best you can. Thankfully, I haven't had to deal with founder yet but from what I've been told by my vet and farriers I think you're BO is right, it doesn't sound like founder.

divinemisselle · 03-05-2008, 12:05 PM

I know that it sounds like we're attempting to "diagnose" here, but what we're really doing it sharing thoughts/possibilities and experiences.

Funny, the first thing I thought of when I read your post was a shoulder issue, too. But who knows? None of us are there looking at him.

You've done great to cover your bases in diagnosing his issue, and I hope it turns out to be a minor one.

Good luck!

cameo05 · 03-05-2008, 12:11 PM

I personally do not take it that way and I am sure that aguestnga doesn't either. This is very informative. Does sound more so something other than hoof, but I have never dealt with one of these problems. I also thought that one would founder quicker than 10 days.

aguestnga · 03-05-2008, 12:47 PM

I'm definitely not taking the suggestions as gospel diagnosis(es?)...but to draw on others experiences and see what worked/didn't work for them. I've been here two years now and these people have kept my hair on my head and my horses' heads ABOVE ground more than once!!!

LOOOOOOVE MY HT FAMILY!!!!!

Keep those thoughts and ideas coming!!!

cameo05 · 03-05-2008, 12:51 PM

SusiE · 03-05-2008, 01:03 PM

a digital pulse can be felt with an abscess as well as with laminitis. Laminitis *is* a lameness issue and an extremely severe and potentially life threatening one at that, but if the horse is walking around with a relatively normal stride and not rocked back off his toes, and it's only 1 foot, that doesn't sound like the presentation you expect with laminitis

aguestnga · 03-05-2008, 01:31 PM

Well, I'll do the happy dance that it is most likely NOT laminitis but understand it could still be serious.

I need a win here...

DoBeSassy · 03-05-2008, 02:32 PM

I would also look for something above the hoof, but thats just my experience.

I hope its only a small problem.

ChasnCans · 03-05-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seerfarm

Might suggest reading this.

A horse could founder on Senior Feed, although it is still recognized as one of the safest and less risk feeds.

http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

Interesting, I better have a word with my vet!!!

lol
I'll find out more information, As I'm still quite sure they cannot founder from that kind of feed.

sugarsgal · 03-05-2008, 06:07 PM

All though it doesn't sound like Founder, I just have to add: My vet has seen horses founder almost instantly and some Founder up to 2 weeks later after getting into something they should not have. We were told this because some dim-witt decided to give our Mini a flake of Alfalfa hay when infact she had already foundered from it with the previous owner.

Gotta Love Duns · 03-05-2008, 06:16 PM

Well it sounds like you had good news from your farrier today!

I was thinking shoulder as well as I went through some similar a couple of years ago. He was sound and then the next day gimpy as all get out, it did end up being in his shoulder.

ChasnCans · 03-05-2008, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarsgal

All though it doesn't sound like Founder, I just have to add: My vet has seen horses founder almost instantly and some Founder up to 2 weeks later after getting into something they should not have. We were told this because some dim-witt decided to give our Mini a flake of Alfalfa hay when infact she had already foundered from it with the previous owner.

alfalfa is very rich, and it is easy for horses to founder on. We've had people board with us that they fed an already fat-out of shape horse this all the time, and too much of it .. guess what .. the horse foundered. Needless to say the no longer stay at our barn.

aguestnga · 03-06-2008, 07:15 AM

GREAT NEWS...

IT WAS AN ABSCESS!!!! Farrier came out and tapped all over his hoof and no reaction but when he went to pull the shoe, Dallas reared up and let out this awful moan; could tell it hurt like hell!!! He gave it one more tug and out came the "stuff"...everywhere.

Gross.

It was the result of a hot nail which the farrier was scratching his head over b/c it was in the white line and all but who knows...he didn't charge me and he ground out a channel in the shoe and in D's hoof so we could flush it easily.

I am soooo relieved.

GROUP HUG!!!!!

cameo05 · 03-06-2008, 07:18 AM

OH great, Dallas finally has some relief. That is great. Now you can rest a little easier.

**Diamond_Y** · 03-06-2008, 07:23 AM

Wonderful news!

Range · 03-06-2008, 07:37 AM

Yay!!!

sugarsgal · 03-06-2008, 07:42 AM

Great News

Carri · 03-06-2008, 07:57 AM

I am late catching up on this, but I am so glad it is nothing too serious! Here's to a quick recovery!

seerfarm · 03-06-2008, 08:15 AM

YooHoo, I know it was painful for him, but I am sure He and Momma is much relieved that it wasn't too terrible serious.

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03-05-2008, 11:12 AM
cameo05 Pasture Pet Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In my own world Posts: 12,321	I cannot comment on the founder or the shoulder as I haven't had those problems yet, but I hope that everything does go well and you have done right by getting both farrier and vet out. That way all aspects are covered. __________________ Life is a bed of roses, until you meet up with thorns.

03-05-2008, 11:42 AM
rubysrider Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: N.W.Arkansas Posts: 854	Don't you just love great farriers!! Mine are that way too. I think what you are doing for him is fine, you're doing the very best you can. Thankfully, I haven't had to deal with founder yet but from what I've been told by my vet and farriers I think you're BO is right, it doesn't sound like founder.

03-05-2008, 12:05 PM
divinemisselle Bombproof Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: At the bar... Posts: 8,359	I know that it sounds like we're attempting to "diagnose" here, but what we're really doing it sharing thoughts/possibilities and experiences. Funny, the first thing I thought of when I read your post was a shoulder issue, too. But who knows? None of us are there looking at him. You've done great to cover your bases in diagnosing his issue, and I hope it turns out to be a minor one. Good luck! __________________ . Lead me not into temptation..... I can find it just fine on my own.....

03-05-2008, 12:11 PM
cameo05 Pasture Pet Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In my own world Posts: 12,321	I personally do not take it that way and I am sure that aguestnga doesn't either. This is very informative. Does sound more so something other than hoof, but I have never dealt with one of these problems. I also thought that one would founder quicker than 10 days. __________________ Life is a bed of roses, until you meet up with thorns.

03-05-2008, 12:47 PM
aguestnga Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 448	I'm definitely not taking the suggestions as gospel diagnosis(es?)...but to draw on others experiences and see what worked/didn't work for them. I've been here two years now and these people have kept my hair on my head and my horses' heads ABOVE ground more than once!!! LOOOOOOVE MY HT FAMILY!!!!! Keep those thoughts and ideas coming!!! __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, '...holy smokes...what a ride!'" Author Unknown

03-05-2008, 12:51 PM
cameo05 Pasture Pet Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In my own world Posts: 12,321	amen __________________ Life is a bed of roses, until you meet up with thorns.

03-05-2008, 01:03 PM
SusiE Newborn Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 45	a digital pulse can be felt with an abscess as well as with laminitis. Laminitis is a lameness issue and an extremely severe and potentially life threatening one at that, but if the horse is walking around with a relatively normal stride and not rocked back off his toes, and it's only 1 foot, that doesn't sound like the presentation you expect with laminitis

03-05-2008, 01:31 PM
aguestnga Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 448	Well, I'll do the happy dance that it is most likely NOT laminitis but understand it could still be serious. I need a win here... __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, '...holy smokes...what a ride!'" Author Unknown

03-05-2008, 02:32 PM
DoBeSassy Kid Safe Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 5,538	I would also look for something above the hoof, but thats just my experience. I hope its only a small problem.

03-05-2008, 06:07 PM
sugarsgal Started Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,750	All though it doesn't sound like Founder, I just have to add: My vet has seen horses founder almost instantly and some Founder up to 2 weeks later after getting into something they should not have. We were told this because some dim-witt decided to give our Mini a flake of Alfalfa hay when infact she had already foundered from it with the previous owner. __________________ There is no such thing as an Ignorant horse, there are only Ignorant people!

03-06-2008, 07:23 AM
Diamond_Y Administrator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,717	Wonderful news! __________________ Diamond Y Quarter Horses - Breeders of Quality Foundation Quarter Horses Home of King of Cooke County, 2004 Perlino son of Cooke County ETC

03-05-2008, 06:16 PM
Gotta Love Duns Bombproof Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dixonville, Alberta Posts: 10,798	Well it sounds like you had good news from your farrier today! I was thinking shoulder as well as I went through some similar a couple of years ago. He was sound and then the next day gimpy as all get out, it did end up being in his shoulder. __________________ A penny saved is a penny you can spend on your next horse. http://nightfireranch.webs.com/index.htm

03-06-2008, 07:15 AM
aguestnga Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 448	GREAT NEWS... IT WAS AN ABSCESS!!!! Farrier came out and tapped all over his hoof and no reaction but when he went to pull the shoe, Dallas reared up and let out this awful moan; could tell it hurt like hell!!! He gave it one more tug and out came the "stuff"...everywhere. Gross. It was the result of a hot nail which the farrier was scratching his head over b/c it was in the white line and all but who knows...he didn't charge me and he ground out a channel in the shoe and in D's hoof so we could flush it easily. I am soooo relieved. GROUP HUG!!!!! __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, '...holy smokes...what a ride!'" Author Unknown

03-06-2008, 07:18 AM
cameo05 Pasture Pet Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In my own world Posts: 12,321	OH great, Dallas finally has some relief. That is great. Now you can rest a little easier. __________________ Life is a bed of roses, until you meet up with thorns.

03-06-2008, 07:37 AM
Range Kid Safe Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back of Beyond Posts: 6,739	Yay!!! __________________ "Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it all... you just might get it all, and then some you don't want." Chris Daughtery

03-06-2008, 07:42 AM
sugarsgal Started Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,750	Great News __________________ There is no such thing as an Ignorant horse, there are only Ignorant people!

03-06-2008, 07:57 AM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,652	I am late catching up on this, but I am so glad it is nothing too serious! Here's to a quick recovery!

03-06-2008, 08:15 AM
seerfarm Bombproof Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Out with the Herd! Posts: 9,633	YooHoo, I know it was painful for him, but I am sure He and Momma is much relieved that it wasn't too terrible serious. __________________ "One must be a god to be able to tell successes from failures without making a mistake".