** UPDATE** NOT A Broken Coffin Bone In The Hoof

redboy · 10-26-2009, 07:44 PM

Has anyone ever dealt with this situation?
Red got injured last week on a trail ride and has been terribly lame since.
I had been in communication with the vet immediately afterwards and as per his instructions,
we were treating it like it was a stifle injury,
given that Red wasn't bearing any weight on the entire leg, and holding it off the ground,
essentially not using it at all.
As well, he has been on Bute 2x per day since.
Finally got the vet out to have a look today and we ruled out hip, hock, and stifle, he feels it is in the foot (as the foot is quite warm) and he believes Red broke his coffin bone.
Does anyone have any experiences with this??
If so, I would love to hear any and all information.
Thank you

rescueme · 10-26-2009, 07:46 PM

Oh No! So sorry to hear about Red. Hope all goes well and he has an uneventful healing. Don't have any experience with this sort of thing, but prayers from here for good news.

scrapchick · 10-26-2009, 07:48 PM

I'm sorry, poor Red. Thinking that Kanoo will have words of wisdom for you.
I can only say I'm sorry and hope Red is better soon.

redboy · 10-26-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rescueme

Oh No! So sorry to hear about Red. Hope all goes well and he has an uneventful healing. Don't have any experience with this sort of thing, but prayers from here for good news.

Thank you so much

.
He's spoiled rotten

, so if that counts for anything, he's getting plenty of TLC.

PS. I contacted Kanoo immediately, and her support and friendship to me was INCREDIBLE!!
Thank you, Kanoo

Horselady44 · 10-26-2009, 07:49 PM

I would schedule a x-ray

I have no advice other than that. I have never delt with anything like it. Good Luck. I hope and pray that Red heals up fast! (((HUGS TO YOU AND RED)))

redboy · 10-26-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horselady44

I would schedule a x-ray

I have no advice other than that. I have never delt with anything like it. Good Luck. I hope and pray that Red heals up fast! (((HUGS TO YOU AND RED)))

Xray is next on the list, vet just wanted my farrier to double check the foot also.
He will be out on Wednesday AM.
Thank you for the kind thoughts and words

FoxMartini · 10-26-2009, 08:12 PM

Ny friends horse broke his coffin bone when he was young. It healed a milimeter off and he was fine to ride but is now a pasture pet at 14 years old. He'd been on and off constantly through his life and now he is just consistently lame unfortunately.

Do get an X-Ray and go from there.

dproaps · 10-26-2009, 08:15 PM

Several years ago I was given a beautiful standardbred off the track in Orlando Florida. He had a broken coffin bone. We had to keep him in a bar shoe and he had 6 months of stall rest. Then 3 months of paddock (small lot) time, then 3 months of pasture time. He was totally sound after that. He was 11 years old when he broke his coffin bone and I had him for several years, and then retired him with his old trainer in Florida when we moved. He wanted him for his grandkids to ride.

redboy · 10-26-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dproaps

Several years ago I was given a beautiful standardbred off the track in Orlando Florida. He had a broken coffin bone. We had to keep him in a bar shoe and he had 6 months of stall rest. Then 3 months of paddock (small lot) time, then 3 months of pasture time. He was totally sound after that. He was 11 years old when he broke his coffin bone and I had him for several years, and then retired him with his old trainer in Florida when we moved. He wanted him for his grandkids to ride.

I figure this is my 'sign' to go ahead and retire my Reddy

.
World's BEST trail horse

.
I'm not in any huge hurry, but if something should 'pop' up on my radar, I'm not going to be afraid to give it some serious consideration either.
Hubby has been WARNED, and is ON NOTICE

, there is going to be a new horse on the farm.

prancingpony · 10-26-2009, 08:26 PM

Redboy--

If and when it is determined to be a broken coffin bone PLEASE consult Esco Buff.

http://www.escobuff.com/

On his service and specialty page he has photos of my girlfriend Lorre Browns Donkey that he worked on and Lily the donkey is sound with NO coffin bone!!

Seriously--please consider it and I can get you in contact with Loree to get her opinion of Esco.

Good luck honey and I really hope is is something a lot less severe!!

(((HUGS)))

~Terri

dproaps · 10-26-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redboy

I figure this is my 'sign' to go ahead and retire my Reddy

.
World's BEST trail horse

.
I'm not in any huge hurry, but if something should 'pop' up on my radar, I'm not going to be afraid to give it some serious consideration either.
Hubby has been WARNED, and is ON NOTICE

, there is going to be a new horse on the farm.

That may be true redboy. Stately turned out to be a wonderful trail horse for us, but he could never race again.

kanoo32 · 10-27-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redboy

Thank you so much

.
He's spoiled rotten

, so if that counts for anything, he's getting plenty of TLC.

PS. I contacted Kanoo immediately, and her support and friendship to me was INCREDIBLE!!
Thank you, Kanoo

You are very welcome.....anytime!!!

dunamovin · 10-27-2009, 01:51 PM

I've worked with a lot of TB's with coffin injuries. It all depends on the severity of the fracture and what type it is. Some can be rehabbed; some can't. Only an xray can tell you that. It depends on the horse's personality too. A horse that can be stalled without tearing down the walls does better. I've seen horses come back almost 100% and others be put down. There are many high priced TB's standing at stud with coffin breaks. Best case would be a minor injury, months of stall/paddock rest and then used for walk/trot classes or leadline. I'm sending you positive thoughts and praying for the best outcome.

little_S · 10-27-2009, 01:58 PM

What does your vet have you doing in the mean while til the farrier and x-rays are taken? Just bute?

I'd think that soaking the hoof would be a good thing to do as well.

Maybe he is gravelling? Some times gravel abcesses look like broken bones.

A friends mare came back off a trail ride the same way. It popped in about 2 weeks.

BklynCwgrl · 10-27-2009, 02:47 PM

I never heard that term: gravel abcess.

little_S · 10-27-2009, 03:11 PM

From my understanding.

Gravel is usually an abcess that blows out some where in the hoof wall.

My friend's mare abcessed at the coronary band. Some blow out abcesses at the heal.

People say it is from getting little stones, etc. in the white line of the foot. Others say that it is an infection in the hoof.

The horse is generally very lame until the abcess pops and afterwards you can definately see improvement.

Soaking the hoof and using hoof savles or liniments may help speed up the process.

My friends mare was on bute and bantamine, as well as being wrapped (just incase of a broken bone or bad soft tissue injury).

I'm sure others on here can explain it better.

kanoo32 · 10-27-2009, 03:27 PM

gravel is just another term used for abcess.....in the old days they called an abcess a gravel

BklynCwgrl · 10-27-2009, 04:07 PM

LOL so "gravel abcess" is redundant?

Hey...who was it who was looking for a name for the alleged Dun colt?

How about ReDunDant

kanoo32 · 10-27-2009, 04:19 PM

Exactly......

ReDunDant!?!?!?!?

tuffsmom · 10-27-2009, 04:29 PM

I'm sorry this happened to Red. I would have the Xrays taken and go from there.

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10-26-2009, 07:44 PM
redboy Started Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Posts: 2,754	UPDATE NOT A Broken Coffin Bone In The Hoof Has anyone ever dealt with this situation? Red got injured last week on a trail ride and has been terribly lame since. I had been in communication with the vet immediately afterwards and as per his instructions, we were treating it like it was a stifle injury, given that Red wasn't bearing any weight on the entire leg, and holding it off the ground, essentially not using it at all. As well, he has been on Bute 2x per day since. Finally got the vet out to have a look today and we ruled out hip, hock, and stifle, he feels it is in the foot (as the foot is quite warm) and he believes Red broke his coffin bone. Does anyone have any experiences with this?? If so, I would love to hear any and all information. Thank you Last edited by redboy : 10-28-2009 at 11:56 AM.

10-26-2009, 07:46 PM
rescueme Halter broke Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: My dream home Posts: 113	Oh No! So sorry to hear about Red. Hope all goes well and he has an uneventful healing. Don't have any experience with this sort of thing, but prayers from here for good news. __________________ "Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine."

10-26-2009, 07:48 PM
scrapchick Kid Safe Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Festus, Missouri Posts: 7,022	I'm sorry, poor Red. Thinking that Kanoo will have words of wisdom for you. I can only say I'm sorry and hope Red is better soon. __________________ ....And I will sail my vessel, 'til the river runs dry, like a bird upon the wind , these waters are my sky - I'll never reach my destination if I never try ...So I will sail my vessel ,'til the river runs dry ...

10-26-2009, 07:49 PM
Horselady44 Started Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 2,395	I would schedule a x-ray I have no advice other than that. I have never delt with anything like it. Good Luck. I hope and pray that Red heals up fast! (((HUGS TO YOU AND RED))) __________________ A happy horse equals a happy rider!

10-26-2009, 08:12 PM
FoxMartini Weanling Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada Posts: 488	Ny friends horse broke his coffin bone when he was young. It healed a milimeter off and he was fine to ride but is now a pasture pet at 14 years old. He'd been on and off constantly through his life and now he is just consistently lame unfortunately. Do get an X-Ray and go from there. __________________ 'It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames.' http://photojoe.webs.com - Photography at its finest!

10-26-2009, 08:15 PM
dproaps Coming two Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dickson, Tennessee Posts: 1,883	Several years ago I was given a beautiful standardbred off the track in Orlando Florida. He had a broken coffin bone. We had to keep him in a bar shoe and he had 6 months of stall rest. Then 3 months of paddock (small lot) time, then 3 months of pasture time. He was totally sound after that. He was 11 years old when he broke his coffin bone and I had him for several years, and then retired him with his old trainer in Florida when we moved. He wanted him for his grandkids to ride. __________________ Those who suffer with the suffering are dancing to the rhythm of God.

10-26-2009, 08:26 PM
prancingpony Seasoned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,367	Redboy-- If and when it is determined to be a broken coffin bone PLEASE consult Esco Buff. http://www.escobuff.com/ On his service and specialty page he has photos of my girlfriend Lorre Browns Donkey that he worked on and Lily the donkey is sound with NO coffin bone!! Seriously--please consider it and I can get you in contact with Loree to get her opinion of Esco. Good luck honey and I really hope is is something a lot less severe!! (((HUGS))) ~Terri __________________ Breeder of fine Gypsy Sport Horses http://www.freewebs.com/faewillow/ Equine Gifts at http://www.cafepress.com/faewillow

10-27-2009, 01:51 PM
dunamovin Halter broke Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: where the blacktop ends Posts: 181	I've worked with a lot of TB's with coffin injuries. It all depends on the severity of the fracture and what type it is. Some can be rehabbed; some can't. Only an xray can tell you that. It depends on the horse's personality too. A horse that can be stalled without tearing down the walls does better. I've seen horses come back almost 100% and others be put down. There are many high priced TB's standing at stud with coffin breaks. Best case would be a minor injury, months of stall/paddock rest and then used for walk/trot classes or leadline. I'm sending you positive thoughts and praying for the best outcome.

10-27-2009, 01:58 PM
little_S Halter broke Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chambersburg PA Posts: 133	What does your vet have you doing in the mean while til the farrier and x-rays are taken? Just bute? I'd think that soaking the hoof would be a good thing to do as well. Maybe he is gravelling? Some times gravel abcesses look like broken bones. A friends mare came back off a trail ride the same way. It popped in about 2 weeks.

10-27-2009, 02:47 PM
BklynCwgrl Started Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,784	I never heard that term: gravel abcess. __________________ Robin

10-27-2009, 04:19 PM
kanoo32 Seasoned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 4,503	Exactly...... ReDunDant!?!?!?!? __________________ "Animals are such agreeable friends--they ask no questions, they pass no criticisms..." --George Eliot In Loving Memory of Spikey...My Best Friend...I Miss You RIP 1988-2009

10-27-2009, 03:11 PM
little_S Halter broke Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chambersburg PA Posts: 133	From my understanding. Gravel is usually an abcess that blows out some where in the hoof wall. My friend's mare abcessed at the coronary band. Some blow out abcesses at the heal. People say it is from getting little stones, etc. in the white line of the foot. Others say that it is an infection in the hoof. The horse is generally very lame until the abcess pops and afterwards you can definately see improvement. Soaking the hoof and using hoof savles or liniments may help speed up the process. My friends mare was on bute and bantamine, as well as being wrapped (just incase of a broken bone or bad soft tissue injury). I'm sure others on here can explain it better.

10-27-2009, 03:27 PM
kanoo32 Seasoned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 4,503	gravel is just another term used for abcess.....in the old days they called an abcess a gravel __________________ "Animals are such agreeable friends--they ask no questions, they pass no criticisms..." --George Eliot In Loving Memory of Spikey...My Best Friend...I Miss You RIP 1988-2009

10-27-2009, 04:07 PM
BklynCwgrl Started Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,784	LOL so "gravel abcess" is redundant? Hey...who was it who was looking for a name for the alleged Dun colt? How about ReDunDant __________________ Robin

10-27-2009, 04:29 PM
tuffsmom Kid Safe Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 5,736	I'm sorry this happened to Red. I would have the Xrays taken and go from there. __________________