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kristin · 10-08-2009, 01:13 PM

hi,
sorry it has taken me awhile to get back. i can clip the hairs and get a better pic, i will also try to get one from the sole. The only problem about getting her trimmed now is i have 4 other horses that are all on the same schedule, the good thing is that i have a good relationship with my farrier and if someone is interested i can have him come and trim them if needed. as far as the bruise or red on her hoof she has always had that, farrier doesnt seem to mind, did say that we can put shoes on if we want but i dont at the moment do alot of hard riding, now come spring will be different.
as far as trying to sell her, i was wondering if i should include a pic of her hoof or explain in the description, i just hate wasting my time if someone comes to look at her and they do notice her feet. if it is a major concern then they dont have to waste thier time either, i can get a letter from my farrier about it all being superficial.

Jadelover · 10-19-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lbequ4002

I believe the waves are not from uneven wear. They are what is growing down from the whiteline. I went to a clinic a few months ago and we talked about this subject in depth and what I was told was waves are a change in the attachment of the coffin bone to the hoof wall. Not founder just a change. Of course the deeper the wave the worse whatever it was that caused the change. My clinician said some horses get waves due to spring grass or changing feed or hay or pasture. others are not as bothered by those types of changes. think of it as if something happened to you cuticle, like you slammed you finger in the door or something, you nail might grow inwavy for awhile until that part gtrows out. i'd be willing to bet from the side your horses feet have a slight dish and a forward-pulled toe.

I'm sorry, but none of this makes any sense to me...what do you mean "growing down from the whiteline" ? The whiteline is on the sole of the the hoof, it runs between the sole and the hoof wall. I think you might meant the coronary band. As for the "attachment of the coffin bone to the hoof wall" I do ot think that is correct at all...I am quite sure that the coffin bone is not and should not be attached to the hoof wall.

I also think you may be talking about founder when talking about the dished, forward toed apppearance...this horse does not appear to have foundered. The wavy appearance of this horses hooves seems to be from dietary changes like you suggest, and the cracks look to me to be stress cracks from having long toes. If left long the superficial nature will become much more severe, and will eventually affect the horses gait and soundness.

I suggest that you get her trimmed ASAP and keep her on a more regular schedule...maybe a shorter schedule than she has been on in the past. They definitely need a trim, but I have seen WAY, WAY worse feet on lots of horses. She's not that bad, and I wouldn't be afraid to but her based on these pics. My mare has the same cracks, and has had them since I got her. She hasn't taken a lame step yet...

bntnail · 10-19-2009, 09:48 PM

[quote] stuff deleted[quote=Jadelover;1749432]As for the "attachment of the coffin bone to the hoof wall" I do ot think that is correct at all...I am quite sure that the coffin bone is not and should not be attached to the hoof wall.

The coffin bone is attached by the stratum lamellatum(sensitive laminae),then there's the stratum medium and then the stratum externum(insensitive laminae).All are attached together but not solidly. More like Velcro.

There are also a few support structures as well.

Agree w/ rest of post.

bntnail,farrier

Jadelover · 10-20-2009, 06:05 AM

Thanks bntnail...that's what I thought, but couldn't put into words. I didn't think there was a direct "connection" to the hoof wall...It was my understanding that the bones of the hoof are kind of packed inside the hoof wall with connective tissue around them, kinda like fruit suspended in jell-o. Or like your favorite vase packed in packing peanuts. Sort of floating in protective material.

I just had to respond to this postin because I guess sometimes a little information can be dangerous...and cause a little panic.

10-08-2009, 01:13 PM
kristin Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 335	hi, sorry it has taken me awhile to get back. i can clip the hairs and get a better pic, i will also try to get one from the sole. The only problem about getting her trimmed now is i have 4 other horses that are all on the same schedule, the good thing is that i have a good relationship with my farrier and if someone is interested i can have him come and trim them if needed. as far as the bruise or red on her hoof she has always had that, farrier doesnt seem to mind, did say that we can put shoes on if we want but i dont at the moment do alot of hard riding, now come spring will be different. as far as trying to sell her, i was wondering if i should include a pic of her hoof or explain in the description, i just hate wasting my time if someone comes to look at her and they do notice her feet. if it is a major concern then they dont have to waste thier time either, i can get a letter from my farrier about it all being superficial. __________________ home to1 arab 4 1/2 arabs & 1 quarter paint mare www.tjstables.homestead.com

10-19-2009, 09:48 PM
bntnail Halter broke Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 69	[quote] stuff deleted[quote=Jadelover;1749432]As for the "attachment of the coffin bone to the hoof wall" I do ot think that is correct at all...I am quite sure that the coffin bone is not and should not be attached to the hoof wall. The coffin bone is attached by the stratum lamellatum(sensitive laminae),then there's the stratum medium and then the stratum externum(insensitive laminae).All are attached together but not solidly. More like Velcro. There are also a few support structures as well. Agree w/ rest of post. bntnail,farrier

10-20-2009, 06:05 AM
Jadelover Weanling Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Central New York Posts: 498	Thanks bntnail...that's what I thought, but couldn't put into words. I didn't think there was a direct "connection" to the hoof wall...It was my understanding that the bones of the hoof are kind of packed inside the hoof wall with connective tissue around them, kinda like fruit suspended in jell-o. Or like your favorite vase packed in packing peanuts. Sort of floating in protective material. I just had to respond to this postin because I guess sometimes a little information can be dangerous...and cause a little panic. __________________ RIP SH Dynamite Mistress...frolic in greener pastures girl...give dad a kiss for me