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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Arcadia, Florida
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"Chancey" was one of the best trail horses we had in our camp string here in FLorida. He was a registered Paint, and had been intended to be used as a breeding stallion. The folks that had him kept foster kids, mostly high school age.
Chancey was so quiet, calm, as a yearling that the kids would go out in the pasture and just sit on him bareback. He'd graze, and they'd sit. For hours. Chancey wound up with one of the worst swaybacks I've ever seen, and I think the bareback riding at too young an age caused it. Second story: One legged woman (lost her leg in a motorcycle accident) riding a Paso Fino across the state of Florida as part of the FLorida Cracker Trail Ride. With only one leg, she didn't feel "secure" in a saddle, so she used a bareback pad. By the end of the second day, the Paso wouldn't gait, was shying and totally misbehaving. He had a "blister" the size of my fist on his back from the pressure of her hip bones pressing on him through the bareback pad. I held an icebag on his back for hours. We were able to put an old Army McCelland saddle on him the next day (the gap in the middle cleared the pressure sore) and she finished the ride. These are two worst-case-scenario stories. Conversely, I had a bunch of campers who wanted to ride their horses bareback down to the creek and swim. The one timid rider who kept her saddle on was the one who fell off! Too much of a good thing is still too much. Saddles "spread the weight" and protect a horse's back. My old Appaloosa, who never offered to buck under saddle, would buck off anybody who tried to ride him bareback. He wasn't having any of it. |
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I do have an English saddle, and have no problem riding English but it doesn't fit Rocket. He's inbetween a semi and full QH bars, his main problem is tall skinny withers and a really wide barrel. I've been looking at a few Big Horn and Abetta synthetic saddles but none of them fit. There are a few english saddles on Craigslist for $200-350, a really used Bates Caprelli and a nice Collegiate. I want to get a dressage saddle for trails, those things are the bomb...even comfyer then my western saddle.
Theoldbear, my horses seem to like getting out bareback...they know it will be a quiet ride and they can relax. I did have a few roping horses that wouldn't let my butt get near them without a saddle, though. When I ride bareback Rocket doesn't seem sore or get sore, but that's why I use a 3 inch thick pad plus my bareback pad. And it's all natural wool, the polyester bareback pad seems to rub the horses and make sores.
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If you're sitting softly, and moving with your horse, then it should not be bad at all. The saddle just gives you a place to put your feet, something to grab, and something to tie stuff to - PLUS, it does distribute the weight, if you're working for any extended period of time. If you're just messing around, going for a hack or whatever, then it will only improve your balance to ride bareback. North American Indians rode bareback all the time, and it didn't seem to bother their horses - but imagine putting a fully armed knight or cavalry officer on a horse bareback, or roping cattle bareback! It just wouldn't be too comfy, so a saddle was definitely needed.
If it's a choice between a questionably-fitting saddle and going bareback, then definitely, bareback is better - but I would make sure that you're sitting very flexibly, and that the horse's back is well-muscled, though. You can also use a bareback pad, like you did, so that your seat-bones don't dig into the horse's back. Nevertheless, I honestly think that it depends on the individual horse and rider. You'll know whether the horse is happy or not, because if he sticks his head up in the air, tightens his back, strings out his hindquarters and 'jigs' instead of walking, he's obviously uncomfortable. If he's just wandering along, relaxed, though, then it's not bothering him. Since Dot has been having issues, I've been just walking him around bareback, and we have both been enjoying it. I used to jump him bareback, when we were both significantly younger. Personally, I actually find that my seat is even more secure bareback than in the saddle, because there's less between me and the horse - but that's just my own preference.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I've heard mixed responses on this one. Earlier this year, I had Rocket massaged and adjusted. The gal who did that told me that if I could, to ride him bareback for a while as it would be better for him than riding with the saddle. I did ride him bareback for 2-3 months but this was only once a week. He was fine with it. 3 of my 5 horses are fine with someone getting on them bareback. The other 2 will have none of it. The mare I had earlier this year would promptly ditch anyone who got on her bareback.
I feel that so long as you're not doing it often or for long periods of time, it should be okay. You did similar to what I was doing - I put on a thick saddle pad and then the bareback pad on top of it. That way, Rocket had a good cushion between me and his back. I do agree with David though. I've thought about getting an English saddle for that very reason. That way, I don't have to go bareback and hurt my butt and I don't have to throw a heavy saddle up there.
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She's not really a 'chiro' so to speak. She's a massage therapist but it is along the same lines. The reason she had me go bareback with Rocket is his shoulders were out. She put them back in and explained that he should still be worked but that it would be better if he didn't have the pressure from the saddle for a while. Rocket was very underweight when I got him and he still has very high withers. He's also gaited so she felt that the freedom from the saddle would do him some good. He never missed a beat riding him like that. He'll walk, trot, canter (would probably gallop too but I'm skeered
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I started riding Rocket bareback because his shoulders were out too. He also took his back out with a poorly fitting saddle, compliments of a leaser who didn't care. The chiropractor reccomended to give his shoulders some freedom.
Now, I can ride him bareback almost anywhere. We do small jumps bareback, I love to gallop bareback, we go up and down hills. It improved my balance so much, and also helped with my seat.
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Now that I thought about this thread and read the other responses, I think the best thing to do is what is right for your horse. If you ride bareback and he has problems because of it, then don't ride bareback anymore. If you can ride bareback, jump logs and all kinds of stuff and he isn't lame, sore, etc, then I would continue to ride bareback as long as my heart desires.
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Georgia
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Two things...I'm not saying never ride bareback, I'm just saying "all things in moderation" As was stated by myself and theoldbear, the instances we know of where riding bareback actually harmed the horse were extreme instances. I'm glad that you care enough about your horse to ask if what you're doing could hurt him instead of waiting to see.
Second--Greydot---Native American Indians didn't ride bareback unless they had to. In fact several tribes developed their own style saddles when they couldn't get enough of them by raiding or trading. Look up native american saddles and see what you find, you'll also find that any native american who could get one rode with a bit and bridle, those who couldn't did what anyone else would and improvised. Sorry to get off topic but being a history enthusiast this is kind of a pet peeve of mine... David
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I rode bareback all the time. Id always preferred it, but my friends and I were only doing it for "trails" which lasted maybe an hour 2-3x a week at most... some weeks we didnt ride at all. But whenever we did it was almost always bareback. If I were doing anything else but this Id probably use a saddle.
Ive never had any problems at all and all of my horses will go bareback willingly, if not better than with a saddle. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Texas
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I ride Rosie bareback 2-3 times a week any where from 45 minutes to an hour and a half. She doesn't seem to mind it at all - we ride in the arena and in the pasture and take small jumps that way. Lots of meandering around, walking, lots of trotting (her favorite gait) and some loping too - with an occasional gallop thrown in for fun
I recently had a chiropractor for her and he said he prefers people riding with a saddle because of the weight distribution is much more spread out, but for as little as I ride her that it wasn't a big deal. He did say that if we were going to go on a trail ride he would want me in a saddle because for extended periods of time that would be a lot better for her back. I do plan on following his advice about any future trailrides - I rode her two hours straight once on a trailride bareback and I don't know about her (she seemed fine with it), but my legs were wasted - with a saddle you can shift position and rest your legs in the stirrups or get on and off easily to stretch. Bareback you don't have as many options...
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David, when I lived on the Navajo reservation I got to watch them handmake saddles that they used hundreds of years ago - it as so neat. They looked like old army saddles, but covered in fur. A lot of the guys there rode in traditional hackamores too. My favorite charecter out there, Clyde, was a self taught horse trainer but he used mostly traditional (like natural horsemanship) techniques. He rode his horses all over bridleless, he took 4 horses on trail without halters or anything to keep them nearby, he said a word and they'd all line up behind his lead horse.
He actually taught me how to ride bareback on his old old mustang. I had no confidence in my riding ability. Riding bareback helped me so much with my confidence. Next, I want to try vaulting.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I rode one particular horse bareback all the time, for hours at a time without him developing sore spots. Unless we move around a bit, our pelvic bones can create pressure spots, but if the rider tilts the pelvis a little and tighten's the glutes, this will lift the seat bones. This exercise helps the rider develop a nice butt.
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