Question about SWAT

Lady_MCSE · 08-31-2008, 09:08 PM

Oh, I feel kinda silly for having to ask this, but here goes . ..

Have owned Jacques for 3 years and 3 days.

Been living on Horsetopia for tons of newbie advice! At some point in the last couple of years, I read through the "what owners should have on hand" stickies, and went a-shoppin'.

So today was my very first day that I had a rather serious (not "call the vet" serious, but a bit deeper than just no-fur-left serious) injury that I needed to treat. I had on-hand some SWAT, but didn't have any wound care salve left.

I'll be danged if that darned label on the jar of SWAT had no information whatsoever. It listed the major ingredients were the pyrethrins that keep away the bugs and stuff. But I couldn't find anything on it about healing properties.

Does anyone here know the answers?
-Is swat intended to put directly ON \ inside the wound?
-Does it have any antibacterial\healing properties to it?

I ended up driving out to the tack store and getting some triple-antibiotic wound care. I put THAt on the deepest part of the wounds, and sort of lined the area AROUND the wound with SWAT.

PS: I am planning to call the vet on Tuesday. I don' treally think I HAVE to, but it'll be a better-safe-than-sorry call.

DappleGrayMyWay · 08-31-2008, 09:21 PM

My mare is recovering from surgery and part of her post-op care includes using SWAT to keep the bugs away from the wound. I have been applying it liberally to every part I can reach, and it's been very helpful. So while the triple antibiotic cream is always great to have, you can use the Swat without worry.

My understanding is, as long as we're not coping with tendons showing, bone showing, deep massive bleeding...Swat is okay to use. It's an antibacterial in the sense that it's protecting the wound from having bacteria introduced externally. And the bonus is killing off the nasty biters who would add insult to injury by biting the boo-boo!

APHANutmeg · 08-31-2008, 09:27 PM

Swat is actually triple Ab with repellents to keep flies off. I use it for all my scrapes and areas of hair loss. I also use it to keep the flies off their ears and off my dogs ears also.

PaintsQH · 08-31-2008, 10:00 PM

Nutmeg, SWAT has no antibacterial properties in it at all. It is an ointment to protect wounds from flies and other bugs. Lady_MSCE, Corona ointment or Furazone might be a better product to help a wound heal and use the SWAT to keep the bugs away. If you can get EquiAid from the vet, it is an awesome product for protecting and healing wounds and preventing proudflesh. It hardens somewhat when applied thus keeping dirt out, it doesnt wash or sweat away. Here is the exact information on SWAT with the ingredients. Just make sure you dont eat your horse after using it on him

I always find that part funny on the warning label on certain animal products.

SWAT

FLY REPELLENT OINTMENT FOR WOUNDS AND SORES

PRECAUTIONARY STATEMENTS
CAUTION:Not for human use. Wash hands after using.
ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS
This product is toxic to fish. Keep out of lakes, streams, or ponds. Do not apply where runoff is likely to occur.
Do not use on animals that are to be used for human consumption.

EPA REG. NO. 270-103 EPA EST. NO. 11715-TN-1

Repels House Flies, Stable Flies, Face Flies, and Horn Flies from wounds and open sores. Also kills them on contact. Effective for hours.
ACTIVE INGREDIENTS:
Piperonyl Butoxide, Technical* . . .0.5%
Pyrethrins I & II . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.2% Di-n-
propylisocinchomeronate . . . . . . . . . . . .1.0%
INERT INGREDIENTS . . . . . . .98.3%
*Equivalent to 0.4% (butycarbityl) (6- propylpiperonyl) ether and 0.1% relatedcompounds.

Keep Out of Reach of Children
CAUTION See side panel for additional precautions
NET WEIGHT 6 OZ.

FOR DOGS, HORSES AND PONIES
A fly repellent for wounds and sores

DIRECTIONS FOR USE: It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

To treat superficial wounds, abrasions, sores and scratches, apply enough ointment to cover the wound. Apply directly to the wound and use daily.

STORAGE AND DISPOSAL STORAGE: Store in a cool, dry place.
DISPOSAL. Do not reuse empty container. Wrap container and put in trash collection.

PaintsQH · 08-31-2008, 10:09 PM

Info on Corona
Corona Ointment
contains 50% lanolin for maximum moisture control. The antiseptic action of oxyquinoline, which is used in a variety of human skin care products, helps reduce the numbers of a wide range of micoorganisms. Due largely to its high lanolin content, Corona ointment adheres well to the skin for long-lasting protection.

EquiAide

http://www.equileisure.com.au/webcontent25.htm

**Orchid** · 08-31-2008, 10:29 PM

SWAT does not contain any antibiotics - it's for keeping the flies out of the wound by providing both a physical and chemical barrier, but not for treating the wound itself.

For a wound that is superficial but more than the hair scraped off, I wash them out with soap and water, apply Corona or a spray-on like Furall, and then when that dries coat it with SWAT. Unless you're in a hurry and can't wait for the spray to dry, and then you get your hands really yucky instead of semi-yucky.

Horselessnomore · 08-31-2008, 10:30 PM

That's what I thought SWAT is mainly to keep the flies away. I like to use the coloured stuff, so I can actually see where I have put it. I am dealing with a cut across my yearling's chest and have had great success with Underwoods. It has gone from something that I thought would take months to heal to looking pretty darn good in 2 weeks time. Called the vet and they typically don't stitch that area because of all the movement it get but they did recommend a tetnus booster, but since he is an unknown (not sure if he had shots ever) we had given him a tetnus shot on the 1st of August and he is due for another tomorrow, so we didn't do another when he cut himself.
PaintsQH -- isn't that warning funny -- it's also on the fly spray that I use.

PaintsQH · 08-31-2008, 10:44 PM

Yes, its really strange to think of spraying your animal with fly spray and then having a BBQ

I wonder what the reasoning behind that statement is. Sorry, off topic..

APHANutmeg · 08-31-2008, 10:47 PM

Sorry all, I was always led to believe that Swat had AB properties.

I see from the label that it doesn't. Though I do have an old container of Sawt that says it contains aloe

.

PaintsQH · 08-31-2008, 11:13 PM

I used to think the same thing as well. It also smells like bubble gum, turns your fingers pink and is a pain to wash off since its waterproof

APHANutmeg · 08-31-2008, 11:28 PM

My old container sure doesn't smell like bubble gum----it STINKS! I had it out yesterday (yes, I still use to keep bugs off of ears) and my mae's nose just curled up like --eww, not that again!

But, she loves not having the bugs bothering her ears though.

kanoo32 · 09-01-2008, 06:56 AM

Think of it as vaseline with fly repellant in it!

Lady_MCSE · 09-01-2008, 07:11 AM

Piperonyl Butoxide, Technical* . . .0.5%
Pyrethrins I & II . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.2% Di-n-
propylisocinchomeronate . . . . . . . . . . . .1.0%

Thanksk guys! I didn't bring the jar home with me to repeat these ingredients. Thanks PaintQH!

I knew what the Pyrethrins were, anti-fly stuff. But I didn't knwo what the other two ingredients were.

Sounds like I did the right thing - getting something to put in the wound and sort of "topping it off" with the SWAT. I did have some Furazol on hand, so I could switch to doing that today.

**Range** · 09-01-2008, 09:39 AM

Huh. I think my Swat container says it's an antibiotic. Now I have to go check.

A J · 09-01-2008, 12:19 PM

I also use it on bellies to help keep them from getting pigeon fever - works great, much better than other fly sprays.

For owies, I put on the actual wound meds I have then cover with/around with SWAT.

ahlihaff · 09-01-2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orchid

SWAT does not contain any antibiotics - it's for keeping the flies out of the wound by providing both a physical and chemical barrier, but not for treating the wound itself.

This is my understanding also. It comes in different colors.

Horse_Orderly · 09-02-2008, 04:11 AM

http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-22751

You could use this...................

PaintsQH · 09-02-2008, 04:58 AM

And the SWAT mystery continues.... Is it or Isnt it an antibacterial agent? "Theme from Jeopardy" plays...

Lady_MCSE · 09-02-2008, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaintsQH

And the SWAT mystery continues.... Is it or Isnt it an antibacterial agent? "Theme from Jeopardy" plays...

No, I don't think there's any mystery left . . . I had known that Pyrethrins were definitely repellent, but I didn't know about the other two ingredients. Just to settle things for sure, I looked them up in Google\Wikipedia, and they ARE both just repellents, not antibacterial or healing. So unless Farnam is putting additional ingredients in the stuff that they aren't listing, then there is nothing in it to actually help the wound other than just simply keeping bugs out.

The farnam Triple-Antibiotic is exactly what I'm using now. My other favorite wound care is Novalsan, but the local tack store didn't have any of that.

jjsimsez · 09-04-2008, 08:14 AM

my mare had a wound couple months ago.few inches wide and gaped.first few days b4 vet could get out.i twice day irrigated then used peroxide.sprayed purple stuff and after dry used swat.i also gave a dose of bute for swelling.just once on bute.was healing with no infection.vet got there and said his wound spray was better.it has dmso in it so i couldnt use swat or anything with it.after few days wound was looking worse and it must have stung cause she didnt like it at all.desided to go back to the home remedy and forget the vets spray.it healed up nice,no scar,and she didnt have flys in it.

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08-31-2008, 09:08 PM
Lady_MCSE Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Shytown, IL Posts: 3,459	Question about SWAT Oh, I feel kinda silly for having to ask this, but here goes . .. Have owned Jacques for 3 years and 3 days. Been living on Horsetopia for tons of newbie advice! At some point in the last couple of years, I read through the "what owners should have on hand" stickies, and went a-shoppin'. So today was my very first day that I had a rather serious (not "call the vet" serious, but a bit deeper than just no-fur-left serious) injury that I needed to treat. I had on-hand some SWAT, but didn't have any wound care salve left. I'll be danged if that darned label on the jar of SWAT had no information whatsoever. It listed the major ingredients were the pyrethrins that keep away the bugs and stuff. But I couldn't find anything on it about healing properties. Does anyone here know the answers? -Is swat intended to put directly ON \ inside the wound? -Does it have any antibacterial\healing properties to it? I ended up driving out to the tack store and getting some triple-antibiotic wound care. I put THAt on the deepest part of the wounds, and sort of lined the area AROUND the wound with SWAT. PS: I am planning to call the vet on Tuesday. I don' treally think I HAVE to, but it'll be a better-safe-than-sorry call. __________________ Yes I can spell the way Webster tells me to. But why? I might spell correctly Tuesday thru Wensday tho. Last edited by Lady_MCSE : 08-31-2008 at 09:10 PM.

08-31-2008, 09:21 PM
DappleGrayMyWay Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NC (Asheville) Posts: 856	My mare is recovering from surgery and part of her post-op care includes using SWAT to keep the bugs away from the wound. I have been applying it liberally to every part I can reach, and it's been very helpful. So while the triple antibiotic cream is always great to have, you can use the Swat without worry. My understanding is, as long as we're not coping with tendons showing, bone showing, deep massive bleeding...Swat is okay to use. It's an antibacterial in the sense that it's protecting the wound from having bacteria introduced externally. And the bonus is killing off the nasty biters who would add insult to injury by biting the boo-boo! __________________ My sanity is with my horse, and if you see them, please send them back to the barn. Tule Pepper

08-31-2008, 09:27 PM
APHANutmeg Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 641	Swat is actually triple Ab with repellents to keep flies off. I use it for all my scrapes and areas of hair loss. I also use it to keep the flies off their ears and off my dogs ears also. __________________ Staff to: Sunshine's Bar B Ritz "Nutmeg" Buckskin APHA, and her 4 mini friends: "Mocha, Ginger, Gunther, and Kodi"

08-31-2008, 10:00 PM
PaintsQH Started Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,417	Nutmeg, SWAT has no antibacterial properties in it at all. It is an ointment to protect wounds from flies and other bugs. Lady_MSCE, Corona ointment or Furazone might be a better product to help a wound heal and use the SWAT to keep the bugs away. If you can get EquiAid from the vet, it is an awesome product for protecting and healing wounds and preventing proudflesh. It hardens somewhat when applied thus keeping dirt out, it doesnt wash or sweat away. Here is the exact information on SWAT with the ingredients. Just make sure you dont eat your horse after using it on him I always find that part funny on the warning label on certain animal products. SWAT FLY REPELLENT OINTMENT FOR WOUNDS AND SORES PRECAUTIONARY STATEMENTS CAUTION:Not for human use. Wash hands after using. ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS This product is toxic to fish. Keep out of lakes, streams, or ponds. Do not apply where runoff is likely to occur. Do not use on animals that are to be used for human consumption. EPA REG. NO. 270-103 EPA EST. NO. 11715-TN-1 Repels House Flies, Stable Flies, Face Flies, and Horn Flies from wounds and open sores. Also kills them on contact. Effective for hours. ACTIVE INGREDIENTS: Piperonyl Butoxide, Technical* . . .0.5% Pyrethrins I & II . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.2% Di-n- propylisocinchomeronate . . . . . . . . . . . .1.0% INERT INGREDIENTS . . . . . . .98.3% Equivalent to 0.4% (butycarbityl) (6- propylpiperonyl) ether and 0.1% relatedcompounds. Keep Out of Reach of Children CAUTION See side panel for additional precautions NET WEIGHT 6 OZ. FOR DOGS, HORSES AND PONIES A fly repellent for wounds and sores DIRECTIONS FOR USE: It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. To treat superficial wounds, abrasions, sores and scratches, apply enough ointment to cover the wound. Apply directly to the wound and use daily. STORAGE AND DISPOSAL STORAGE: Store in a cool, dry place. DISPOSAL. Do not reuse empty container. Wrap container and put in trash collection. __________________ My treasures do not clink, they gleam in the sunlight and neigh in the night*

08-31-2008, 10:09 PM
PaintsQH Started Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,417	Info on Corona Corona Ointment contains 50% lanolin for maximum moisture control. The antiseptic action of oxyquinoline, which is used in a variety of human skin care products, helps reduce the numbers of a wide range of micoorganisms. Due largely to its high lanolin content, Corona ointment adheres well to the skin for long-lasting protection. EquiAide http://www.equileisure.com.au/webcontent25.htm __________________ My treasures do not clink, they gleam in the sunlight and neigh in the night

08-31-2008, 10:29 PM
Orchid Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 9,805	SWAT does not contain any antibiotics - it's for keeping the flies out of the wound by providing both a physical and chemical barrier, but not for treating the wound itself. For a wound that is superficial but more than the hair scraped off, I wash them out with soap and water, apply Corona or a spray-on like Furall, and then when that dries coat it with SWAT. Unless you're in a hurry and can't wait for the spray to dry, and then you get your hands really yucky instead of semi-yucky. __________________ Be thankful.

08-31-2008, 10:30 PM
Horselessnomore Long Yearling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,343	That's what I thought SWAT is mainly to keep the flies away. I like to use the coloured stuff, so I can actually see where I have put it. I am dealing with a cut across my yearling's chest and have had great success with Underwoods. It has gone from something that I thought would take months to heal to looking pretty darn good in 2 weeks time. Called the vet and they typically don't stitch that area because of all the movement it get but they did recommend a tetnus booster, but since he is an unknown (not sure if he had shots ever) we had given him a tetnus shot on the 1st of August and he is due for another tomorrow, so we didn't do another when he cut himself. PaintsQH -- isn't that warning funny -- it's also on the fly spray that I use.

08-31-2008, 10:44 PM
PaintsQH Started Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,417	Yes, its really strange to think of spraying your animal with fly spray and then having a BBQ I wonder what the reasoning behind that statement is. Sorry, off topic.. __________________ My treasures do not clink, they gleam in the sunlight and neigh in the night

08-31-2008, 10:47 PM
APHANutmeg Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 641	Sorry all, I was always led to believe that Swat had AB properties. I see from the label that it doesn't. Though I do have an old container of Sawt that says it contains aloe. __________________ Staff to: Sunshine's Bar B Ritz "Nutmeg" Buckskin APHA, and her 4 mini friends: "Mocha, Ginger, Gunther, and Kodi"

08-31-2008, 11:13 PM
PaintsQH Started Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,417	I used to think the same thing as well. It also smells like bubble gum, turns your fingers pink and is a pain to wash off since its waterproof __________________ My treasures do not clink, they gleam in the sunlight and neigh in the night

08-31-2008, 11:28 PM
APHANutmeg Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 641	My old container sure doesn't smell like bubble gum----it STINKS! I had it out yesterday (yes, I still use to keep bugs off of ears) and my mae's nose just curled up like --eww, not that again! But, she loves not having the bugs bothering her ears though. __________________ Staff to: Sunshine's Bar B Ritz "Nutmeg" Buckskin APHA, and her 4 mini friends: "Mocha, Ginger, Gunther, and Kodi"

09-01-2008, 06:56 AM
kanoo32 Started Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,362	Think of it as vaseline with fly repellant in it! __________________ Even if your on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there!

09-01-2008, 07:11 AM
Lady_MCSE Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Shytown, IL Posts: 3,459	Piperonyl Butoxide, Technical* . . .0.5% Pyrethrins I & II . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.2% Di-n- propylisocinchomeronate . . . . . . . . . . . .1.0% Thanksk guys! I didn't bring the jar home with me to repeat these ingredients. Thanks PaintQH! I knew what the Pyrethrins were, anti-fly stuff. But I didn't knwo what the other two ingredients were. Sounds like I did the right thing - getting something to put in the wound and sort of "topping it off" with the SWAT. I did have some Furazol on hand, so I could switch to doing that today. __________________ Yes I can spell the way Webster tells me to. But why? I might spell correctly Tuesday thru Wensday tho.

09-01-2008, 09:39 AM
Range Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back of Beyond Posts: 5,685	Huh. I think my Swat container says it's an antibiotic. Now I have to go check. __________________ If it harms none, do what you will.

09-01-2008, 12:19 PM
A J Greenbroke Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 3,318	I also use it on bellies to help keep them from getting pigeon fever - works great, much better than other fly sprays. For owies, I put on the actual wound meds I have then cover with/around with SWAT. __________________ Try not, do. Do or do not. There is no try.

09-02-2008, 04:11 AM
Horse_Orderly Started Join Date: May 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,043	http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-22751 You could use this................... __________________ State the obvious, I didn't get my perfect fantasy. I realize you love yourself more than you could ever love me! Taylor Swift

09-02-2008, 04:58 AM
PaintsQH Started Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,417	And the SWAT mystery continues.... Is it or Isnt it an antibacterial agent? "Theme from Jeopardy" plays... __________________ My treasures do not clink, they gleam in the sunlight and neigh in the night

09-04-2008, 08:14 AM
jjsimsez Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: indiana Posts: 369	my mare had a wound couple months ago.few inches wide and gaped.first few days b4 vet could get out.i twice day irrigated then used peroxide.sprayed purple stuff and after dry used swat.i also gave a dose of bute for swelling.just once on bute.was healing with no infection.vet got there and said his wound spray was better.it has dmso in it so i couldnt use swat or anything with it.after few days wound was looking worse and it must have stung cause she didnt like it at all.desided to go back to the home remedy and forget the vets spray.it healed up nice,no scar,and she didnt have flys in it.