Will she ever be broke to ride?

lelo2006 · 08-28-2008, 04:35 PM

Not sure if this is in the right area so moderator's please move if need be.

I know this is probably a better questions for a vet and we will be getting one out to tell us what he/she can but until then wanted to ask some of you smart HTers your opinions.

I'll tell you what I know of the story but it's really not much. We just recieved a surrender into our rescue. The lady that surrendered her was taking VERY good care of this horse I think she just think the horse is too much for her and she wanted her to go to a good place.

The horse is a 3 year old, blue roan mare possible QH maybe crossed with something else but pretty sure QH. I'll post pics and you can tell me what you think.

When the horse was a weanling something happened to it, no sure exactly what but it happened to it's right forelock. The horse then went to auction and was bought by a man that had a horse breeding farm. He then decided he didn't want this horse (this is all within a few weeks to a month) and this nice lady took her on. I think what was wrong is a bone chip in her forelock. The lady got surgery for her and they removed the chip and got x-rays of the area at age 6 months which the vet told her that the horse had removed too much of it's cartalage (sp) and would never be able to be ridden again. She does very well when she recieves 'Legend' shots every 2-3 months. She just arrived last night and we let her out with the herd after keeping her in a small pen for a few hours and everyone was great and got along and she tore up the field running and kicking and no sign of anything in the area of the problem.

Do you think or have you heard of this kinda think correcting itself? Have you heard of anything to possible help this horse so that it could become ridabel?

Here's Zimba

Couple of movies of her running with the herd
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/a...icture2298.flv

http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/a...icture2301.flv

lelo2006 · 08-29-2008, 06:06 PM

HELLLLLLOOOO!!!!! Anyone.............. could really use just anything. LOL

A J · 08-29-2008, 06:22 PM

I read your thread, but honestly have no opinion. I think a vet's opinion would be about the only way to really tell. That, and get her doing some groundwork and see what happens but I'd be careful and would want a vet's opinion first.

cameo05 · 08-29-2008, 06:29 PM

I am in total agreement with A J. This is not something that can be told over the net with out xrays, vets opinion, and all that jazz. I hope that she can, she is a gorgeous girl. Good luck with her.

lelo2006 · 08-29-2008, 06:33 PM

Well I'm no so much asking will she as have you ever heard of a horse either had treatment or cured themself from a similiar injury?

breburtch · 08-29-2008, 06:36 PM

do you mean fetlock? are you sure it's the right? by the pictures her left looks swollen.

I would have the vet out to x-ray and ask there opinion. Some horses recover and become light to moderate riding sound and others can only be used as companions.

I wouldn't work her or ride her until you've talked to the vet and had her examined. Just let her be a horse and play in the pasture until you find out.
If you were to work her and she stepped the wrong way or you pushed her to hard you could cause more damage then do any good

Midnightbobby · 08-29-2008, 06:36 PM

I don't know anythink about it either. I sure hope she gets a good report from the vet. She would look GREAT under saddle!

cameo05 · 08-29-2008, 06:40 PM

Similar injuries yes I have seen come back for riding, but again it is hard to say. It is case by case and to what extent the damage was and how much of what was actually removed, is all I am saying. To answer you question, again I knew of 1, but as stated... I do hope it was not as bad as they have told you it was. Good luck with her. Praying she can.

cook1745 · 08-29-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breburtch

do you mean fetlock? are you sure it's the right? by the pictures her left looks swollen.

I would have the vet out to x-ray and ask there opinion. Some horses recover and become light to moderate riding sound and others can only be used as companions.

I wouldn't work her or ride her until you've talked to the vet and had her examined. Just let her be a horse and play in the pasture until you find out.
If you were to work her and she stepped the wrong way or you pushed her to hard you could cause more damage then do any good

I agree the front left fetlock looks weird. I would have a second opinion from a vet with the injection that could give you a false soundness and working her to hard could cause irreversible damage.

ToveroMom · 08-29-2008, 07:17 PM

Agree with them all-you are talking to the wrong people. Call a vet

lelo2006 · 08-29-2008, 08:00 PM

We noticed that as well and were wondering about it since it's the right that's injured and the left is swallon but maybe she did something at the other home she was at before arriving or on the trailer ride over.

We don't plan on doing anything until the vet can clear her. I just wanted to know if anyone knew of horses coming back from something like this. It would be a shame to keep her as just a companion horse forever. Although with her looks......... do you think you could do halter class with her or something easy like that?

ToveroMom · 08-30-2008, 09:24 AM

Halter classes are not easy. The horses are worked[generally ] daily and are fit and muscled.
It really is not put a halter on a pasture horse and lead them in.

lelo2006 · 08-30-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToveroMom

Halter classes are not easy. The horses are worked[generally ] daily and are fit and muscled.
It really is not put a halter on a pasture horse and lead them in.

Oh of course not. But she is only 3 so she could possible excell in that area since she does have such nice looks to her.

breburtch · 08-30-2008, 10:18 AM

not sure if it's changed over the years but horses with something noticable ie swollen joint, unattractive scar etc never won. I used to have a mare that had been a top AQHA halter horse until she got caught in barbed wire and had a ugly scar after it healed in her left hind leg. She was still beautiful but she no longer could show the AQHA curcuit and even in the low end schooling and county fair show's she often wouldn't place because of the scar.

She went on to be an awsome riding horse though

Bandit · 08-30-2008, 01:39 PM

I would get an opinion from a vet. Maybe if she can't physically carry weight could pull a light pleasure cart.

EquineAlberta · 08-30-2008, 01:59 PM

Did the joint get a direct injection of HA when it first happenned? I think the direct injection is more beneficial than one given IV. How long was she rested after the operation?

I am not sure if x-rays taken now will help or not as it takes time for the damaged cartilege to affect the bone. How is she on flexions?

I have had horses with chips do very well without surgery, but I have no idea what cartilege damage they had as you can only find that out with surgery or an MRI.

I think it would be best to keep her in a private pen so she isn't encouraged to strain that joint and further damage her leg and then see how she does with moderate work.

Karen

cowgirlspurs · 09-08-2008, 01:00 PM

looks more like a fracture to me-seen it some TBs that used to race-that's how they healed up.

halter is a beauty contest and no matter how lovely you think your horse is-unless it is perfect (or at least more perfect than anything else in the ring) it is going to be passed over.

lelo2006 · 09-08-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breburtch

not sure if it's changed over the years but horses with something noticable ie swollen joint, unattractive scar etc never won. I used to have a mare that had been a top AQHA halter horse until she got caught in barbed wire and had a ugly scar after it healed in her left hind leg. She was still beautiful but she no longer could show the AQHA curcuit and even in the low end schooling and county fair show's she often wouldn't place because of the scar.

She went on to be an awsome riding horse though

She has not swollen joint or anything she looks like a normal healthy horse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EquineAlberta

Did the joint get a direct injection of HA when it first happenned? I think the direct injection is more beneficial than one given IV. How long was she rested after the operation?

I am not sure if x-rays taken now will help or not as it takes time for the damaged cartilege to affect the bone. How is she on flexions?

I have had horses with chips do very well without surgery, but I have no idea what cartilege damage they had as you can only find that out with surgery or an MRI.

I think it would be best to keep her in a private pen so she isn't encouraged to strain that joint and further damage her leg and then see how she does with moderate work.

Karen

I really have no info to those questions. Only what I posted. The lady who dropped her off gave us only the minimal of what she knew about it. Sorry.

cameo05 · 09-08-2008, 01:31 PM

That is not your fault. What are you gonna have done? Have you thought of anything yet ie tests, xrays etc. Or just see how it goes? I hope everything will be ok.

EquineAlberta · 09-08-2008, 01:53 PM

Can you get the name of the vet that did the surgery? It was likely one of the two local clinics. That may give you more info to go on, although the vet might need the permission from the previous owner to do it. I am guessing this is something she would be ok with though.

Her left front is damaged/swollen, which is what I think breburtch was referring too. It would keep her out of contention in halter (other than showmanship)

Karen

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08-28-2008, 04:35 PM
lelo2006 Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 873	Will she ever be broke to ride? Not sure if this is in the right area so moderator's please move if need be. I know this is probably a better questions for a vet and we will be getting one out to tell us what he/she can but until then wanted to ask some of you smart HTers your opinions. I'll tell you what I know of the story but it's really not much. We just recieved a surrender into our rescue. The lady that surrendered her was taking VERY good care of this horse I think she just think the horse is too much for her and she wanted her to go to a good place. The horse is a 3 year old, blue roan mare possible QH maybe crossed with something else but pretty sure QH. I'll post pics and you can tell me what you think. When the horse was a weanling something happened to it, no sure exactly what but it happened to it's right forelock. The horse then went to auction and was bought by a man that had a horse breeding farm. He then decided he didn't want this horse (this is all within a few weeks to a month) and this nice lady took her on. I think what was wrong is a bone chip in her forelock. The lady got surgery for her and they removed the chip and got x-rays of the area at age 6 months which the vet told her that the horse had removed too much of it's cartalage (sp) and would never be able to be ridden again. She does very well when she recieves 'Legend' shots every 2-3 months. She just arrived last night and we let her out with the herd after keeping her in a small pen for a few hours and everyone was great and got along and she tore up the field running and kicking and no sign of anything in the area of the problem. Do you think or have you heard of this kinda think correcting itself? Have you heard of anything to possible help this horse so that it could become ridabel? Here's Zimba Couple of movies of her running with the herd http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/a...icture2298.flv http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/a...icture2301.flv __________________ I love the smell of horse's in the morning. WRERS: Edmonton Based Horse Rescue. www.albertahorserescue.com

08-29-2008, 06:06 PM
lelo2006 Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 873	HELLLLLLOOOO!!!!! Anyone.............. could really use just anything. LOL __________________ I love the smell of horse's in the morning. WRERS: Edmonton Based Horse Rescue. www.albertahorserescue.com

08-29-2008, 06:22 PM
A J Greenbroke Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 3,318	I read your thread, but honestly have no opinion. I think a vet's opinion would be about the only way to really tell. That, and get her doing some groundwork and see what happens but I'd be careful and would want a vet's opinion first. __________________ Try not, do. Do or do not. There is no try.

08-29-2008, 06:29 PM
cameo05 Bombproof Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 8,694	I am in total agreement with A J. This is not something that can be told over the net with out xrays, vets opinion, and all that jazz. I hope that she can, she is a gorgeous girl. Good luck with her. __________________

08-29-2008, 06:33 PM
lelo2006 Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 873	Well I'm no so much asking will she as have you ever heard of a horse either had treatment or cured themself from a similiar injury? __________________ I love the smell of horse's in the morning. WRERS: Edmonton Based Horse Rescue. www.albertahorserescue.com

08-29-2008, 06:36 PM
breburtch Coming two Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ennismore, Ontario Posts: 1,863	do you mean fetlock? are you sure it's the right? by the pictures her left looks swollen. I would have the vet out to x-ray and ask there opinion. Some horses recover and become light to moderate riding sound and others can only be used as companions. I wouldn't work her or ride her until you've talked to the vet and had her examined. Just let her be a horse and play in the pasture until you find out. If you were to work her and she stepped the wrong way or you pushed her to hard you could cause more damage then do any good

08-29-2008, 06:36 PM
Midnightbobby Yearling Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 678	I don't know anythink about it either. I sure hope she gets a good report from the vet. She would look GREAT under saddle!

08-29-2008, 06:40 PM
cameo05 Bombproof Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 8,694	Similar injuries yes I have seen come back for riding, but again it is hard to say. It is case by case and to what extent the damage was and how much of what was actually removed, is all I am saying. To answer you question, again I knew of 1, but as stated... I do hope it was not as bad as they have told you it was. Good luck with her. Praying she can. __________________

08-29-2008, 07:17 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 15,296	Agree with them all-you are talking to the wrong people. Call a vet __________________ "In America,anyone can be President. That is one of the chances you take" Adlai Stevenson

08-29-2008, 08:00 PM
lelo2006 Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 873	We noticed that as well and were wondering about it since it's the right that's injured and the left is swallon but maybe she did something at the other home she was at before arriving or on the trailer ride over. We don't plan on doing anything until the vet can clear her. I just wanted to know if anyone knew of horses coming back from something like this. It would be a shame to keep her as just a companion horse forever. Although with her looks......... do you think you could do halter class with her or something easy like that? __________________ I love the smell of horse's in the morning. WRERS: Edmonton Based Horse Rescue. www.albertahorserescue.com

08-30-2008, 09:24 AM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 15,296	Halter classes are not easy. The horses are worked[generally ] daily and are fit and muscled. It really is not put a halter on a pasture horse and lead them in. __________________ "In America,anyone can be President. That is one of the chances you take" Adlai Stevenson

08-30-2008, 10:18 AM
breburtch Coming two Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ennismore, Ontario Posts: 1,863	not sure if it's changed over the years but horses with something noticable ie swollen joint, unattractive scar etc never won. I used to have a mare that had been a top AQHA halter horse until she got caught in barbed wire and had a ugly scar after it healed in her left hind leg. She was still beautiful but she no longer could show the AQHA curcuit and even in the low end schooling and county fair show's she often wouldn't place because of the scar. She went on to be an awsome riding horse though

08-30-2008, 01:39 PM
Bandit Coming two Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 1,787	I would get an opinion from a vet. Maybe if she can't physically carry weight could pull a light pleasure cart. __________________ Last edited by Bandit : 08-30-2008 at 02:02 PM.

08-30-2008, 01:59 PM
EquineAlberta Seasoned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,425	Did the joint get a direct injection of HA when it first happenned? I think the direct injection is more beneficial than one given IV. How long was she rested after the operation? I am not sure if x-rays taken now will help or not as it takes time for the damaged cartilege to affect the bone. How is she on flexions? I have had horses with chips do very well without surgery, but I have no idea what cartilege damage they had as you can only find that out with surgery or an MRI. I think it would be best to keep her in a private pen so she isn't encouraged to strain that joint and further damage her leg and then see how she does with moderate work. Karen __________________ Hillside Stable, Ardrossan, AB Do unto others as you would have them do unto you...is it really that hard?

09-08-2008, 01:00 PM
cowgirlspurs Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Washago/Severn Bridge Ontario Posts: 1,423	looks more like a fracture to me-seen it some TBs that used to race-that's how they healed up. halter is a beauty contest and no matter how lovely you think your horse is-unless it is perfect (or at least more perfect than anything else in the ring) it is going to be passed over. __________________ Fufill your fantasies...FG Fantasy Fella

09-08-2008, 01:31 PM
cameo05 Bombproof Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 8,694	That is not your fault. What are you gonna have done? Have you thought of anything yet ie tests, xrays etc. Or just see how it goes? I hope everything will be ok. __________________

09-08-2008, 01:53 PM
EquineAlberta Seasoned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,425	Can you get the name of the vet that did the surgery? It was likely one of the two local clinics. That may give you more info to go on, although the vet might need the permission from the previous owner to do it. I am guessing this is something she would be ok with though. Her left front is damaged/swollen, which is what I think breburtch was referring too. It would keep her out of contention in halter (other than showmanship) Karen __________________ Hillside Stable, Ardrossan, AB Do unto others as you would have them do unto you...is it really that hard?