Cure for Cribbing??

nomeanjean · 06-04-2007, 07:50 PM

When the vet was here taking care of Cindy's mishap, he saw our stud Dakota cribbing. He asked me if I had heard how to cure it.

I said I knew a cribbing strap, minerals the normal stuff. He told me he would give me a discount since he was out there anyway.

It seems they sedate the horse, drill hole in the bone between the teeth and insert a ring. Poof... No more crib. Everytime they try to crib it hurts. He said that after only a few times hurting like that they get the idea not to crib.

We will see how that works. He said after they have figured out that cribbing hurts, the rings are removed. I did ask about complications he said there would be none.

ThorArb · 06-04-2007, 08:20 PM

I have heard of the rings that go on the top teeth. Have never used them, but have heard it works. Though, the rings were left on and never taken off.

Jaxie · 06-04-2007, 08:29 PM

eep that sounds strange.. and creepy.. but kind of neat.

montanagirl · 06-04-2007, 08:39 PM

I see how the ring would stop the cribbing, but since cribbing is a behavior associated with stress and/or boredom, wouldn't it just cause the horse to develop something new, like weaving or pacing? Just a thought. Intresting idea though.

ThorArb · 06-04-2007, 08:48 PM

I suppose it could. Though with the few Ive known that used it, had no other issues come out of it. Id love to do it or anything with my 2yr old filly. She picked it up as a foal from her dam. Her dam was bad about cribbing, but boy this girl is the WORST.

Lucky for her she is so sweet natured and a foal from my favorite mare, otherwise she'd be outta here. Drives me absolutely bonkers.

Brittany

eieio · 06-04-2007, 10:23 PM

It does not effect eating/grazing?

Very cool, I might have to try that if I get another Cribber, I turn down some pretty nice consignment horses, just because cribbers are hard to sell. I will also not breed to mares who crib, because most of the foals crib as well. I will take a cribber but I make them wear the miracle collar...

JoAnn1978 · 06-05-2007, 08:52 AM

nomeanjean- please keep me updated on how this is working for Dakota!!!

And, if anyone has information on this ring procedure (removeable or otherwise), please pass it along. I have mentioned this to my vet numerous times and he continuously tells me that he's never heard of such a thing!

I have heard from other owners in other states that they have had the rings placed that it worked really well.

I hate having to keep the miracle collar on Jim constantly, but it's working pretty well. I've lined mine with vet wrap, but it still makes him lose hair in patches where the buckles sit and it just makes him look silly

Anything I can do to lose that thing would be great!

~J

ron · 06-05-2007, 09:06 AM

surgery on neck muscles

championhorse · 06-05-2007, 09:07 AM

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle....20Vices&case=2

it says registering is free. there is supposed to be an article on there.

edit to add: A friend of ours had the surgery done ( the neck muscle one), and her horse still attempted to crib, just wasnt able to do it, but tried even harder then normal, and the mares teeth showed that it was a waste of money. As far as I know, she has never stopped trying to do it either.

they say this type of surgery has more luck if the horse is under 6 than one that has been doing it longer. This mare was 11, so it may still work on younger horses.

jtfer1968 · 06-05-2007, 09:12 AM

I purchased a mare who had the surgery to stop cribbing years prior to me owning her, but she still cribs like crazy.

ron · 06-05-2007, 09:26 AM

the surgery, if done correctly, stops the physical portion of cribbing and the ability to suck air and to get the endorphin release.

if the horse is a confimed cribber and this has developed into learned behavioral habit it probably won't work.

Texas A&M has a very high success rate with the surgery

plus you get a super clean throat latch

Miichelle · 07-02-2007, 12:46 PM

Does anyone know the approximate cost of cribbing rings? The article says that sometimes they only last 3 to 6 weeks and that horses pull them out when grazing. I'm going to go look at an 11 year old gelding tomorrow that cribs. He is not a "confirmed cribber", he only cribs when stalled and when eating his grain (not when eating hay). I wonder if it would be worth looking into or, since he doesn't do it all the time, a cribbing strap is a better option? If we buy him he would be dry lotted but not stalled...

secondhandranch · 07-27-2008, 06:03 PM

so this ring-thing stops the termite cribbers not just the windy ones? i just lost a mare to complicated colic.

d

PaintsQH · 07-27-2008, 08:32 PM

Well, I "cured" my cribber. Two weeks so far. His whole turn out is hotwire and his stall is plywood on the inside, so I put hotwire across the front of the stall and his gate, and nothing to crib on. He looks so much happier and doesnt have a sore poll or rubbed raw throatlatch from the barbaric collar.

06-04-2007, 07:50 PM
nomeanjean Coming two Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Freezing WV Posts: 1,555	Cure for Cribbing?? When the vet was here taking care of Cindy's mishap, he saw our stud Dakota cribbing. He asked me if I had heard how to cure it. I said I knew a cribbing strap, minerals the normal stuff. He told me he would give me a discount since he was out there anyway. It seems they sedate the horse, drill hole in the bone between the teeth and insert a ring. Poof... No more crib. Everytime they try to crib it hurts. He said that after only a few times hurting like that they get the idea not to crib. We will see how that works. He said after they have figured out that cribbing hurts, the rings are removed. I did ask about complications he said there would be none. __________________ One of the best things to hold onto in this world is a friend.

06-04-2007, 08:20 PM
ThorArb Kid Safe Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Conyers, GA Posts: 6,035	I have heard of the rings that go on the top teeth. Have never used them, but have heard it works. Though, the rings were left on and never taken off. __________________ Proud owner of Dixie (04 QH mare), Dezi (06 App filly), Togan (88 QH gelding) So glad she's HOME!

06-04-2007, 08:29 PM
Jaxie Weanling Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 339	eep that sounds strange.. and creepy.. but kind of neat.

06-04-2007, 08:39 PM
montanagirl Yearling Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 591	I see how the ring would stop the cribbing, but since cribbing is a behavior associated with stress and/or boredom, wouldn't it just cause the horse to develop something new, like weaving or pacing? Just a thought. Intresting idea though. __________________ No hour is ever wasted that is spent in the saddle. --Winston Churchill

06-04-2007, 08:48 PM
ThorArb Kid Safe Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Conyers, GA Posts: 6,035	I suppose it could. Though with the few Ive known that used it, had no other issues come out of it. Id love to do it or anything with my 2yr old filly. She picked it up as a foal from her dam. Her dam was bad about cribbing, but boy this girl is the WORST. Lucky for her she is so sweet natured and a foal from my favorite mare, otherwise she'd be outta here. Drives me absolutely bonkers. Brittany __________________ Proud owner of Dixie (04 QH mare), Dezi (06 App filly), Togan (88 QH gelding) So glad she's HOME!

06-04-2007, 10:23 PM
eieio Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,138	It does not effect eating/grazing? Very cool, I might have to try that if I get another Cribber, I turn down some pretty nice consignment horses, just because cribbers are hard to sell. I will also not breed to mares who crib, because most of the foals crib as well. I will take a cribber but I make them wear the miracle collar... __________________ There is no such thing as a always or never in the horse world. Say that one time and some horse some where will prove you wrong!.

06-05-2007, 08:52 AM
JoAnn1978 Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 395	nomeanjean- please keep me updated on how this is working for Dakota!!! And, if anyone has information on this ring procedure (removeable or otherwise), please pass it along. I have mentioned this to my vet numerous times and he continuously tells me that he's never heard of such a thing! I have heard from other owners in other states that they have had the rings placed that it worked really well. I hate having to keep the miracle collar on Jim constantly, but it's working pretty well. I've lined mine with vet wrap, but it still makes him lose hair in patches where the buckles sit and it just makes him look silly Anything I can do to lose that thing would be great! ~J

06-05-2007, 09:06 AM
ron Started Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 2,810	surgery on neck muscles __________________ Well now boogie little baby, boogie woogie all night long. A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw.

06-05-2007, 09:07 AM
championhorse Long Yearling Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,374	http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle....20Vices&case=2 it says registering is free. there is supposed to be an article on there. edit to add: A friend of ours had the surgery done ( the neck muscle one), and her horse still attempted to crib, just wasnt able to do it, but tried even harder then normal, and the mares teeth showed that it was a waste of money. As far as I know, she has never stopped trying to do it either. they say this type of surgery has more luck if the horse is under 6 than one that has been doing it longer. This mare was 11, so it may still work on younger horses. __________________ Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.

06-05-2007, 09:12 AM
jtfer1968 Long Yearling Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,274	I purchased a mare who had the surgery to stop cribbing years prior to me owning her, but she still cribs like crazy.

06-05-2007, 09:26 AM
ron Started Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 2,810	the surgery, if done correctly, stops the physical portion of cribbing and the ability to suck air and to get the endorphin release. if the horse is a confimed cribber and this has developed into learned behavioral habit it probably won't work. Texas A&M has a very high success rate with the surgery plus you get a super clean throat latch __________________ Well now boogie little baby, boogie woogie all night long. A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw.

07-02-2007, 12:46 PM
Miichelle Started Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Central Idaho Posts: 2,944	Does anyone know the approximate cost of cribbing rings? The article says that sometimes they only last 3 to 6 weeks and that horses pull them out when grazing. I'm going to go look at an 11 year old gelding tomorrow that cribs. He is not a "confirmed cribber", he only cribs when stalled and when eating his grain (not when eating hay). I wonder if it would be worth looking into or, since he doesn't do it all the time, a cribbing strap is a better option? If we buy him he would be dry lotted but not stalled...

07-27-2008, 06:03 PM
secondhandranch Weanling Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: fl Posts: 314	so this ring-thing stops the termite cribbers not just the windy ones? i just lost a mare to complicated colic. d

07-27-2008, 08:32 PM
PaintsQH Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 3,953	Well, I "cured" my cribber. Two weeks so far. His whole turn out is hotwire and his stall is plywood on the inside, so I put hotwire across the front of the stall and his gate, and nothing to crib on. He looks so much happier and doesnt have a sore poll or rubbed raw throatlatch from the barbaric collar. __________________ You can tell more about a person by what he says about others than you can by what others say about him.