Leg Woes?

DMarie · 12-31-2005, 11:13 PM

Romeo is a little funny with his right hind leg. It is slightly thicker then the other and he tends to very slightly favor it at times.

I believe it's the fetlock joint but I may be wrong. The purchasing vet thought it could just be a stocked-up thing and did not see a need to X-ray. He passed all the flex testing and etc.

We had the new vet test him again.

He did pass his flex testing again and he knows where his feet are at all times on the lunge test. She rated him level 1 out of 5 in the lameness department.

The vet is not sure what the cause is or the severity at this point. Romeo is on joint supplements and bute (?) to see if the cause may be pain or arthritis.

Don't all horses have "some" leg issues?

LAMENESS?! That seems like such a scary word to us. He is 4 and will only be used as a pleasure horse. We will have more answers in 2 weeks (after he had some time with the meds and exercise) but I thought we'd ask the good people here for their input.

snickers · 12-31-2005, 11:23 PM

Its really hard to say what the cause could be without an x-ray.
If I remember correctly, he had some issues in the round pen
when he got hurt. Could it be that his leg is causing him some
pain? Could you post a pic where we can see how it looks?
I dont know what suppliments you have him on, but I use and
swear by cetylm. I have a mare that had blown her ankle when
she was a yearling and I put her on the cetylm and her ankle
has went down and she is walking on it a lot better. You can
also use some liniment on his leg.
Check out the web site
www.cetylm.com
I order mine from Jeffers.
I am sure the x-rays will tell the tale.
I wish you all the best and luck. He is still a young horse.

DMarie · 12-31-2005, 11:26 PM

He is on Platform
http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp...du ctID=15306

This is the same thing the purchasing vet noticed and that was before his accident.

Here's the only pic I have right now that shows both hind legs. I'll shoot some in the morning for sure.

http://www.beladmedia.com/romeoNfrank.jpg

"Lameness is easiest to see when the horse is trotting. If the pain is in just one leg, youâ€™ll notice that the horse is not moving evenly. The severity can range from a barely noticeable hitch in the stride to a reluctance to put any weight on one foot."

I would say that is like the first description "a barely (slight) noticeable hitch in the stride" and not the latter for sure.

LAMENESS, Arthritic Type: (little swelling, no tissue heat, and lameness improves with exercise).

The above is more what I think we are dealing with. Guess I should not panic and just see how he is after 2 weeks of meds?

snickers · 12-31-2005, 11:45 PM

Sounds like he might be allergic !!
To be honest, I have never heard of it.
I could not find it in the Jeffers cataloge as well.
Did the previous owner say why he was on it?
Did they say anything as to why his leg is larger than
the other?
What exactly is it for?
He is a beauty.
Is it the front back leg or the one you cant see well?

DMarie · 12-31-2005, 11:48 PM

I posted a link about Platform. See above.

He has never been on it before. The vet recommended it with the bute. Again, this is to see how much he improves with the meds and 2 weeks of lite work. If there is no improvement, we could start to rule out a few things and then move to Xrays. Another thing she said was that his conformation (right word?) looked fine

Front back leg. The one that is straight down in the picture. If he was in cross ties and you were standing at his front, it would be the hind LEFT leg (His RIGHT)

Thank you by the way - he is a real sweetheart too.

snickers · 12-31-2005, 11:59 PM

From what I can see, it looks slighty larger than the other.
Did the previous owner ever say he had an injury to it?
Go to the cetylm site and read up on it. For me, it is a better
product. It helps repair the joints.
When you get to the site, click on for horses.
It is some great stuff.

DMarie · 01-01-2006, 12:01 AM

We don't know his original owner. We bought him from a VERY trusted dealer. Romeo was used as a pick up horse - lord knows what he's been through. The vet did say the same thing. It could be an old injury. Again, it's not a major deal but I worry like crazy about him cuz we love him sooooooooo much

I am reading your recommendation right now. Thank you!!

EDIT: I like what I am reading and have no reason to doubt your experience with this product. I am going to ask the vet about it and/or send her to the site.

snickers · 01-01-2006, 12:22 AM

It is good stuff.
Here is a pic of her ankle. Its the one without the stocking. This was taken during the summer. It has went down in size and she gets around 100% better.
Wow, a pick up horse at 4 years old. He has been through it at a
young age. He could of been kicked on that leg.

ToveroMom · 01-01-2006, 12:48 AM

Platform is a new brand of feeds and supplements from Farnam and they are carried at TSC
That one is just too hard to call from pics
I would just do a wait and see. Your Vet is the one who has actually laid hands on him-he will be a better judge than any of us would

Honestly it looks pretty minor to me from the pics
Every horse has a few bobos

DMarie · 01-01-2006, 01:01 AM

Thanks everyone. I should clarify that I believe they told us he was being trained to be a pickup horse. I have no way of knowing what level of intensity and what he may or may not have been trough.

Then again, http://www.beladmedia.com/that-face.jpg See that mole looking thing on his nose? That's old scar tissue! So, who knows how he got that.

I will be with his trainer in the afternoon. The trainer works for the dealer we bought Romeo from and knows more about his history. I'll double check the facts.

He's too sweet for that job anyway

You guys are right too - We need to chill and see how it goes. It's a very minor nag at this stage.

reba4 · 01-01-2006, 09:51 AM

What is a pick up horse?

EquineAlberta · 01-01-2006, 09:58 AM

From what you describe it does just sound like an old injury that has left scar tissue that occassionally interferes with his tendons/ligaments and so causes some lameness once and a while.

I think it is great that you are worrying about it now, as you may be able to do something about it, whereas if you wait it may become a non correctable issue.

We use DMSO topically on swelling that seems to not be going down on its own...you may want to ask your vet if that would help your horse.

Karen2

snickers · 01-01-2006, 10:11 AM

Reba4,
it is a horse used to go up along side a bucking horse and get
the rider off.

EA,
DMSO, is great for swelling. I try and keep it on hand.
I agree also, DMarie, wait until the Vet is done with your horse
then you can decide what action to take.
I just gave you other options as well as EA, and I think
that is what you were wanting, was other opinions on help
for your baby.
Still ask your Vet about the cetylm. It is advetised on TV and you
can e-mail them with any questions.
I wish you all the luck and keep us posted.

ToveroMom · 01-01-2006, 10:47 AM

Yep Snicker we all bring something to the table.
That is what is so great about this place-isn't it?

snickers · 01-01-2006, 10:52 AM

You are so right Tmom.
I have learned a thing or two.

ToveroMom · 01-01-2006, 10:59 AM

Boy I think we all have..good deal

muttduck · 01-01-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToveroMom

Platform is a new brand of feeds and supplements from Farnam and they are carried at TSC

Tmom is right. The Platform is a new line from Farnam. Four life stage feeds, and four supplements. At TSC, Farnam came in and did a training with the employees on the feeds and supplements... Good Stuff!! AND I can honestly say that, even after leaving TSC.

I have never heard of "cetylm" and will have to look into what it does... So without knowledge of it, I can't say yay or nay on it, but I can say that if your vet recommended Platform Joint supplements, you are using a pretty good product.

I personally would wait out the vet's determination, and then worry about what to do next.

DMarie · 01-01-2006, 07:43 PM

Thanks again everyone.

Our trainer came today. Romeo was so great. He did everything that was asked of him. The trainer is teaching him the opposite of what Romeo knows. What Romeo knows is, GO! GO! GO! (Pickup horse).

He was great. Head down and etc. My husband rode him as well and Romeo was stopping on the dime. They were able to slow Romeo to a walk even when Romeo wanted to go faster. He backed nicely as well. We have a very talented 4 year old who just needs to learn that it's okay to relax.

It's just so amazing to see what a real trainer can expose.

12-31-2005, 11:13 PM
DMarie Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 206	Leg Woes? Romeo is a little funny with his right hind leg. It is slightly thicker then the other and he tends to very slightly favor it at times. I believe it's the fetlock joint but I may be wrong. The purchasing vet thought it could just be a stocked-up thing and did not see a need to X-ray. He passed all the flex testing and etc. We had the new vet test him again. He did pass his flex testing again and he knows where his feet are at all times on the lunge test. She rated him level 1 out of 5 in the lameness department. The vet is not sure what the cause is or the severity at this point. Romeo is on joint supplements and bute (?) to see if the cause may be pain or arthritis. Don't all horses have "some" leg issues? LAMENESS?! That seems like such a scary word to us. He is 4 and will only be used as a pleasure horse. We will have more answers in 2 weeks (after he had some time with the meds and exercise) but I thought we'd ask the good people here for their input. __________________ Name: Donte Breed: Registered American Quarter Horse Color: Sorrel Age: 5 years Height: 15.0 The sweetest, calmest 5 year old in the world!

12-31-2005, 11:23 PM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 9,804	Its really hard to say what the cause could be without an x-ray. If I remember correctly, he had some issues in the round pen when he got hurt. Could it be that his leg is causing him some pain? Could you post a pic where we can see how it looks? I dont know what suppliments you have him on, but I use and swear by cetylm. I have a mare that had blown her ankle when she was a yearling and I put her on the cetylm and her ankle has went down and she is walking on it a lot better. You can also use some liniment on his leg. Check out the web site www.cetylm.com I order mine from Jeffers. I am sure the x-rays will tell the tale. I wish you all the best and luck. He is still a young horse. __________________ The "real" FACE of white trash is not here. http://diamondpfarm.webs.com/

12-31-2005, 11:26 PM
DMarie Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 206	He is on Platform http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp...du ctID=15306 This is the same thing the purchasing vet noticed and that was before his accident. Here's the only pic I have right now that shows both hind legs. I'll shoot some in the morning for sure. http://www.beladmedia.com/romeoNfrank.jpg "Lameness is easiest to see when the horse is trotting. If the pain is in just one leg, youâ€™ll notice that the horse is not moving evenly. The severity can range from a barely noticeable hitch in the stride to a reluctance to put any weight on one foot." I would say that is like the first description "a barely (slight) noticeable hitch in the stride" and not the latter for sure. LAMENESS, Arthritic Type: (little swelling, no tissue heat, and lameness improves with exercise). The above is more what I think we are dealing with. Guess I should not panic and just see how he is after 2 weeks of meds? __________________ Name: Donte Breed: Registered American Quarter Horse Color: Sorrel Age: 5 years Height: 15.0 The sweetest, calmest 5 year old in the world!

12-31-2005, 11:45 PM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 9,804	Sounds like he might be allergic !! To be honest, I have never heard of it. I could not find it in the Jeffers cataloge as well. Did the previous owner say why he was on it? Did they say anything as to why his leg is larger than the other? What exactly is it for? He is a beauty. Is it the front back leg or the one you cant see well? __________________ The "real" FACE of white trash is not here. http://diamondpfarm.webs.com/

12-31-2005, 11:48 PM
DMarie Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 206	I posted a link about Platform. See above. He has never been on it before. The vet recommended it with the bute. Again, this is to see how much he improves with the meds and 2 weeks of lite work. If there is no improvement, we could start to rule out a few things and then move to Xrays. Another thing she said was that his conformation (right word?) looked fine Front back leg. The one that is straight down in the picture. If he was in cross ties and you were standing at his front, it would be the hind LEFT leg (His RIGHT) Thank you by the way - he is a real sweetheart too. __________________ Name: Donte Breed: Registered American Quarter Horse Color: Sorrel Age: 5 years Height: 15.0 The sweetest, calmest 5 year old in the world!

12-31-2005, 11:59 PM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 9,804	From what I can see, it looks slighty larger than the other. Did the previous owner ever say he had an injury to it? Go to the cetylm site and read up on it. For me, it is a better product. It helps repair the joints. When you get to the site, click on for horses. It is some great stuff. __________________ The "real" FACE of white trash is not here. http://diamondpfarm.webs.com/

01-01-2006, 12:01 AM
DMarie Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 206	We don't know his original owner. We bought him from a VERY trusted dealer. Romeo was used as a pick up horse - lord knows what he's been through. The vet did say the same thing. It could be an old injury. Again, it's not a major deal but I worry like crazy about him cuz we love him sooooooooo much I am reading your recommendation right now. Thank you!! EDIT: I like what I am reading and have no reason to doubt your experience with this product. I am going to ask the vet about it and/or send her to the site. __________________ Name: Donte Breed: Registered American Quarter Horse Color: Sorrel Age: 5 years Height: 15.0 The sweetest, calmest 5 year old in the world!

01-01-2006, 12:22 AM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 9,804	It is good stuff. Here is a pic of her ankle. Its the one without the stocking. This was taken during the summer. It has went down in size and she gets around 100% better. Wow, a pick up horse at 4 years old. He has been through it at a young age. He could of been kicked on that leg. __________________ The "real" FACE of white trash is not here. http://diamondpfarm.webs.com/

01-01-2006, 12:48 AM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	Platform is a new brand of feeds and supplements from Farnam and they are carried at TSC That one is just too hard to call from pics I would just do a wait and see. Your Vet is the one who has actually laid hands on him-he will be a better judge than any of us would Honestly it looks pretty minor to me from the pics Every horse has a few bobos __________________

01-01-2006, 01:01 AM
DMarie Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 206	Thanks everyone. I should clarify that I believe they told us he was being trained to be a pickup horse. I have no way of knowing what level of intensity and what he may or may not have been trough. Then again, http://www.beladmedia.com/that-face.jpg See that mole looking thing on his nose? That's old scar tissue! So, who knows how he got that. I will be with his trainer in the afternoon. The trainer works for the dealer we bought Romeo from and knows more about his history. I'll double check the facts. He's too sweet for that job anyway You guys are right too - We need to chill and see how it goes. It's a very minor nag at this stage. __________________ Name: Donte Breed: Registered American Quarter Horse Color: Sorrel Age: 5 years Height: 15.0 The sweetest, calmest 5 year old in the world!

01-01-2006, 09:51 AM
reba4 Long Yearling Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Traverse City, Michigan Posts: 1,048	What is a pick up horse?

01-01-2006, 09:58 AM
EquineAlberta Kid Safe Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,004	From what you describe it does just sound like an old injury that has left scar tissue that occassionally interferes with his tendons/ligaments and so causes some lameness once and a while. I think it is great that you are worrying about it now, as you may be able to do something about it, whereas if you wait it may become a non correctable issue. We use DMSO topically on swelling that seems to not be going down on its own...you may want to ask your vet if that would help your horse. Karen2 __________________ New Hillside Website The Art of Praise

01-01-2006, 10:11 AM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 9,804	Reba4, it is a horse used to go up along side a bucking horse and get the rider off. EA, DMSO, is great for swelling. I try and keep it on hand. I agree also, DMarie, wait until the Vet is done with your horse then you can decide what action to take. I just gave you other options as well as EA, and I think that is what you were wanting, was other opinions on help for your baby. Still ask your Vet about the cetylm. It is advetised on TV and you can e-mail them with any questions. I wish you all the luck and keep us posted. __________________ The "real" FACE of white trash is not here. http://diamondpfarm.webs.com/

01-01-2006, 10:47 AM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	Yep Snicker we all bring something to the table. That is what is so great about this place-isn't it? __________________

01-01-2006, 10:52 AM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 9,804	You are so right Tmom. I have learned a thing or two. __________________ The "real" FACE of white trash is not here. http://diamondpfarm.webs.com/

01-01-2006, 10:59 AM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	Boy I think we all have..good deal __________________

01-01-2006, 07:43 PM
DMarie Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 206	Thanks again everyone. Our trainer came today. Romeo was so great. He did everything that was asked of him. The trainer is teaching him the opposite of what Romeo knows. What Romeo knows is, GO! GO! GO! (Pickup horse). He was great. Head down and etc. My husband rode him as well and Romeo was stopping on the dime. They were able to slow Romeo to a walk even when Romeo wanted to go faster. He backed nicely as well. We have a very talented 4 year old who just needs to learn that it's okay to relax. It's just so amazing to see what a real trainer can expose. __________________ Name: Donte Breed: Registered American Quarter Horse Color: Sorrel Age: 5 years Height: 15.0 The sweetest, calmest 5 year old in the world!