1 month Update pic. pg. 4...BAD Injury on new horse! (pic) - Page 3

Horsin around · 10-02-2009, 11:58 PM

Hey, I just posted a reply about Vetericyn. Use it are this horse. I used it on my mare that was in a VERY bad trailer accident. Her wound was over 8 inches up into her hind quarter, muscles ripped in half and chunks of muscle removed I am into this 4 months and she is almost healed 100% . Use it ...its a miracle cure. The price is WELL worth what this product can do for your horse. Your horse looks great in comparison to where Bailey was. And it does not have the sting of shriners, my horse doesnt even know when I'm putting it on. Everyone working on her believed she would have to have skin grafting and NO shes doing great. I could send you photos if you would like.

3horses · 10-03-2009, 06:37 PM

Here is the picture of her wound today-day 3 from the injury date. I had to remove the wrap the vet put on and, of course, it was stuck fast because of it bleeding and drying. Thankfully my husband held her for me to cut the wrap free (she tried to cross kick me with the other back leg once to let me know it hurt) and he held her while I hosed it. I had to wet the wrap to be able to pull it loose. My Schreiners arrived yesterday so I applied that after hosing and left it unwrapped as the people at Schreiners told me to do. Here's what it looks like so far...

BabyMay · 10-03-2009, 07:31 PM

If it was me, I would keep it wrapped until I talked to the Vet.

Brownie_GA · 10-06-2009, 02:26 PM

For such a large cut, and quite awful looking, I was surprised at how clean the wound was, which I thought was a good sign, under the circumstances. I hope she heals up well...I swear, you check everything out, turn 'em out for a few hours, and sometimes STILL come back to find a nasty surprise like this. Horses are born accident-prone sometimes, I do believe. Hope she will be just fine , and it looks like she's on her way to a good recovery.

eventergirl09 · 10-06-2009, 06:27 PM

wow, that looks awesome compared to day 1. I think you were right to take off the wrap..I would not leave it off for a long period of time, but it is good that you are letting it dry. When she goes to bed I would re-wrap it so that she doesn't get anything in it overnight but wow, it looks great!

3horses · 10-08-2009, 08:24 AM

Here is the pic from Tuesday, Day 6 of the wound, Day 4 with the Schreiner's spray.

The woman at Schreiner's is telling me that I need to hose the wound until all of the yellow scabbing comes off and there is a white line around the wound. I'm not sure what purpose that is for. I can't imagine how long that will take to get it all loose but she figured 30-45 minutes. Is there a reason all of that scabbing need to come off?

candy4legs · 10-08-2009, 08:32 AM

As the scabbing comes off, then the schriener's is more effective as it reaches the fleshy part to help it heal...and unlike humans, horses scar less when you peel the scabs...you can also "scrub" the wound, if the horse will allow...not hard, just lightly...the massage helps keep the blood flowing and helps the scabs release quicker..

3horses · 10-08-2009, 10:14 AM

Thanks, Candy.

As humans we are taught not to "pick" scabs so I was balking at that even though I know the woman is giving me advice from her experience which is way beyond mine.

I'll see what I can do tomorrow. Have a volleyball game to go to tonight so there will be no time to hose endlessly and (yuck) scrub if needed.

Awesome Paints · 10-08-2009, 10:59 AM

Definately get the scabs off. When Doc had his horrific injury 2 years ago (you could look up inside and see his breastbone) I had to scrub it twice a day with a betadine and water mix and a very soft cloth. I hosed it first to loosen the scab before trying to scrub. Getting the scabs off will help it heal quicker and as Candy said it will let the medicine get into the wound better.

candy4legs · 10-08-2009, 12:55 PM

And if you're hosing with cold water, it sort of numbs the area, making it easier to scrub, as it doesn't hurt as much...

Right now, it probably seems like a lot of effort and not much results, but in a couple of weeks, you'll be amazed at how different it looks...

3horses · 10-08-2009, 01:16 PM

Well, wish me luck.

I stopped and got a package of sponges from the store. She doesn't even like it hosed with the cold water (she keeps pulling her leg up) so I can't imagine she will be too thrilled when I try to touch it. You gotta do what ya gotta do though to be the good horse mommy. On the bright side, I have learned that I can handle these kinds of emergencies with good guidance!

Thanks, everyone!

candy4legs · 10-08-2009, 08:30 PM

Sometimes, they are better to stand for you to scrub than they are for the water...hopefully that is the case with her...my little guy would actually lift his leg to allow me better access, but if you didn't know him, you'd assume he was getting ready to kick or was fussing about the treatment...and he would let me do things with no drugs that the vets wouldn't even consider without making him sleepy...go figure...

Horselady44 · 10-08-2009, 10:25 PM

Well its looking better. Poor girl...and poor you. That is a nasty cut! Still no idea on what she did it on? Just looks like she got it caught on something and freaked out and just tore the skin down. Crazy.

Beings its getting crusty you could try soaking her leg in warm water to loosen stuff up so when you scrub it the scabs will come off easier. Just a idea. Good luck! Keep us posted

Brownie_GA · 10-09-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 3horses

Well, wish me luck.

I stopped and got a package of sponges from the store. She doesn't even like it hosed with the cold water (she keeps pulling her leg up) so I can't imagine she will be too thrilled when I try to touch it. You gotta do what ya gotta do though to be the good horse mommy. On the bright side, I have learned that I can handle these kinds of emergencies with good guidance!

Thanks, everyone!

Through the years with horses,isn't it amazing how much crazy stuff we go through that we thought we could have never even faced?! You have done a terrific job handling this injury, and your horse's leg is looking better and better for it.

I like seeing the updated photos of the healing process. And yeah, isn't it weird that we humans are supposed to leave a scab alone, but with horses, letting that new fresh skin breathe is the way to go? There is always something new to learn with them, that's for sure.

Belinda

3horses · 10-09-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Horselady44

Well its looking better. Poor girl...and poor you. That is a nasty cut! Still no idea on what she did it on? Just looks like she got it caught on something and freaked out and just tore the skin down. Crazy.

Beings its getting crusty you could try soaking her leg in warm water to loosen stuff up so when you scrub it the scabs will come off easier. Just a idea. Good luck! Keep us posted

We are sure that she got caught up in the fence as we have high tencil (sp?) electric fence. You can see a mark just above her knee area that is a line going around. I'm thankfull that it didn't rip from there down as this whole thing would be way worse if ligaments and tendons were involved.

I will try soaking the scabs off this weekend.

Druydess · 10-09-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 3horses

Here is the pic from Tuesday, Day 6 of the wound, Day 4 with the Schreiner's spray.

The woman at Schreiner's is telling me that I need to hose the wound until all of the yellow scabbing comes off and there is a white line around the wound. I'm not sure what purpose that is for. I can't imagine how long that will take to get it all loose but she figured 30-45 minutes. Is there a reason all of that scabbing need to come off?

The yellow stuff is called "slough" and it covers the good flesh as does scabbing, and that keeps the Schreiner's from penetrating the regenerative cells which produce new "skin."
( I'm an RN and wounds are the same with people - we have to clean that stuff off wounds in humans too)
Hope that helps...
The wound is actually looking good with new granulation tissue..

rescueme · 10-09-2009, 10:25 AM

I think it looks good for so soon after the injury. Be sure when you hose it, that you don't use a hard spray on it, let the water run over the leg and gently debride it. Try some bute before you hose, might help her discomfort some. And don't forget treats for her when you're done!!! Keep up the great work, it's gonna be worth it!!

3horses · 10-10-2009, 01:37 PM

So today was the day for me to do scab/slough removal. I followed a suggestion on here to soak the area but did it by soaking a towel and wrapping it around the leg for about 2 hours. This pic is after the soaking...

After soaking things loose I took the hose on it with a hard stream and hosed the scab/slough off. I think it worked pretty well. The new flesh looks bumpy like cottage cheese but I'm sure it will be fine when all is said and done.

It all went better than expected and I did it with no help. She was very good for me.

candy4legs · 10-10-2009, 02:28 PM

Great job...glad she was cooperative...and it looks "normal" for where it is in the healing process...

little_S · 10-11-2009, 08:48 PM

What a nasty injury. I just saw the Schribners in a shop the other day. Almost bought it.

If she's let you I'd go ahead and clip the hair around the bottom of the wound to clean her leg cleaner where it looks like it drains down over her hair.

Though the way it sounds I doubt she'd have anything to do with clippers right now.

I almost wonder if some thing like a fly leg wrap would be good to put over her leg to keep it cleaner when she's turned out. She'd still get the air to it to help it dry. (I didn't read if she were stalled or not)

Keep us updated on the progress. I'll be interested to see how the Schribner's works.

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10-02-2009, 11:58 PM
Horsin around Newborn Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 2	Hey, I just posted a reply about Vetericyn. Use it are this horse. I used it on my mare that was in a VERY bad trailer accident. Her wound was over 8 inches up into her hind quarter, muscles ripped in half and chunks of muscle removed I am into this 4 months and she is almost healed 100% . Use it ...its a miracle cure. The price is WELL worth what this product can do for your horse. Your horse looks great in comparison to where Bailey was. And it does not have the sting of shriners, my horse doesnt even know when I'm putting it on. Everyone working on her believed she would have to have skin grafting and NO shes doing great. I could send you photos if you would like.

10-03-2009, 06:37 PM
3horses Yearling Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northeastern PA Posts: 821	Here is the picture of her wound today-day 3 from the injury date. I had to remove the wrap the vet put on and, of course, it was stuck fast because of it bleeding and drying. Thankfully my husband held her for me to cut the wrap free (she tried to cross kick me with the other back leg once to let me know it hurt) and he held her while I hosed it. I had to wet the wrap to be able to pull it loose. My Schreiners arrived yesterday so I applied that after hosing and left it unwrapped as the people at Schreiners told me to do. Here's what it looks like so far... __________________ No mountain is too tall to climb if the first step is belief in oneself.

10-03-2009, 07:31 PM
BabyMay Started Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,779	If it was me, I would keep it wrapped until I talked to the Vet. __________________ For the love of all animals.

10-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Brownie_GA Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 120	For such a large cut, and quite awful looking, I was surprised at how clean the wound was, which I thought was a good sign, under the circumstances. I hope she heals up well...I swear, you check everything out, turn 'em out for a few hours, and sometimes STILL come back to find a nasty surprise like this. Horses are born accident-prone sometimes, I do believe. Hope she will be just fine , and it looks like she's on her way to a good recovery.

10-06-2009, 06:27 PM
eventergirl09 Halter broke Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 143	wow, that looks awesome compared to day 1. I think you were right to take off the wrap..I would not leave it off for a long period of time, but it is good that you are letting it dry. When she goes to bed I would re-wrap it so that she doesn't get anything in it overnight but wow, it looks great! __________________ A horse gallops with its lungs, perseveres with its heart, and wins with its character. ~ Tessio

10-08-2009, 08:24 AM
3horses Yearling Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northeastern PA Posts: 821	Here is the pic from Tuesday, Day 6 of the wound, Day 4 with the Schreiner's spray. The woman at Schreiner's is telling me that I need to hose the wound until all of the yellow scabbing comes off and there is a white line around the wound. I'm not sure what purpose that is for. I can't imagine how long that will take to get it all loose but she figured 30-45 minutes. Is there a reason all of that scabbing need to come off? __________________ No mountain is too tall to climb if the first step is belief in oneself.

10-08-2009, 08:32 AM
candy4legs Long Yearling Join Date: May 2009 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 1,440	As the scabbing comes off, then the schriener's is more effective as it reaches the fleshy part to help it heal...and unlike humans, horses scar less when you peel the scabs...you can also "scrub" the wound, if the horse will allow...not hard, just lightly...the massage helps keep the blood flowing and helps the scabs release quicker.. __________________ VOTE FOR "DUSTY TRAILS HORSE RESCUE" DAILY IN THE PETFINDER SHELTER CHALLENGE! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

10-08-2009, 10:14 AM
3horses Yearling Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northeastern PA Posts: 821	Thanks, Candy. As humans we are taught not to "pick" scabs so I was balking at that even though I know the woman is giving me advice from her experience which is way beyond mine. I'll see what I can do tomorrow. Have a volleyball game to go to tonight so there will be no time to hose endlessly and (yuck) scrub if needed. __________________ No mountain is too tall to climb if the first step is belief in oneself.

10-08-2009, 10:59 AM
Awesome Paints Coming two Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,967	Definately get the scabs off. When Doc had his horrific injury 2 years ago (you could look up inside and see his breastbone) I had to scrub it twice a day with a betadine and water mix and a very soft cloth. I hosed it first to loosen the scab before trying to scrub. Getting the scabs off will help it heal quicker and as Candy said it will let the medicine get into the wound better. __________________ Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That's why it is called the present.

10-08-2009, 12:55 PM
candy4legs Long Yearling Join Date: May 2009 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 1,440	And if you're hosing with cold water, it sort of numbs the area, making it easier to scrub, as it doesn't hurt as much... Right now, it probably seems like a lot of effort and not much results, but in a couple of weeks, you'll be amazed at how different it looks... __________________ VOTE FOR "DUSTY TRAILS HORSE RESCUE" DAILY IN THE PETFINDER SHELTER CHALLENGE! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

10-08-2009, 01:16 PM
3horses Yearling Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northeastern PA Posts: 821	Well, wish me luck. I stopped and got a package of sponges from the store. She doesn't even like it hosed with the cold water (she keeps pulling her leg up) so I can't imagine she will be too thrilled when I try to touch it. You gotta do what ya gotta do though to be the good horse mommy. On the bright side, I have learned that I can handle these kinds of emergencies with good guidance! Thanks, everyone! __________________ No mountain is too tall to climb if the first step is belief in oneself.

10-08-2009, 08:30 PM
candy4legs Long Yearling Join Date: May 2009 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 1,440	Sometimes, they are better to stand for you to scrub than they are for the water...hopefully that is the case with her...my little guy would actually lift his leg to allow me better access, but if you didn't know him, you'd assume he was getting ready to kick or was fussing about the treatment...and he would let me do things with no drugs that the vets wouldn't even consider without making him sleepy...go figure... __________________ VOTE FOR "DUSTY TRAILS HORSE RESCUE" DAILY IN THE PETFINDER SHELTER CHALLENGE! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

10-08-2009, 10:25 PM
Horselady44 Started Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 2,395	Well its looking better. Poor girl...and poor you. That is a nasty cut! Still no idea on what she did it on? Just looks like she got it caught on something and freaked out and just tore the skin down. Crazy. Beings its getting crusty you could try soaking her leg in warm water to loosen stuff up so when you scrub it the scabs will come off easier. Just a idea. Good luck! Keep us posted __________________ A happy horse equals a happy rider!

10-09-2009, 10:25 AM
rescueme Halter broke Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: My dream home Posts: 113	I think it looks good for so soon after the injury. Be sure when you hose it, that you don't use a hard spray on it, let the water run over the leg and gently debride it. Try some bute before you hose, might help her discomfort some. And don't forget treats for her when you're done!!! Keep up the great work, it's gonna be worth it!! __________________ "Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine."

10-10-2009, 01:37 PM
3horses Yearling Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northeastern PA Posts: 821	Day 10 update-scab/slough removal So today was the day for me to do scab/slough removal. I followed a suggestion on here to soak the area but did it by soaking a towel and wrapping it around the leg for about 2 hours. This pic is after the soaking... After soaking things loose I took the hose on it with a hard stream and hosed the scab/slough off. I think it worked pretty well. The new flesh looks bumpy like cottage cheese but I'm sure it will be fine when all is said and done. It all went better than expected and I did it with no help. She was very good for me. __________________ No mountain is too tall to climb if the first step is belief in oneself.

10-10-2009, 02:28 PM
candy4legs Long Yearling Join Date: May 2009 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 1,440	Great job...glad she was cooperative...and it looks "normal" for where it is in the healing process... __________________ VOTE FOR "DUSTY TRAILS HORSE RESCUE" DAILY IN THE PETFINDER SHELTER CHALLENGE! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

10-11-2009, 08:48 PM
little_S Halter broke Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chambersburg PA Posts: 133	What a nasty injury. I just saw the Schribners in a shop the other day. Almost bought it. If she's let you I'd go ahead and clip the hair around the bottom of the wound to clean her leg cleaner where it looks like it drains down over her hair. Though the way it sounds I doubt she'd have anything to do with clippers right now. I almost wonder if some thing like a fly leg wrap would be good to put over her leg to keep it cleaner when she's turned out. She'd still get the air to it to help it dry. (I didn't read if she were stalled or not) Keep us updated on the progress. I'll be interested to see how the Schribner's works.