Laceration Treatment Advice Please MORE PICS PG 3

Sonseeahray's_girl · 02-26-2009, 05:46 PM

About a week and a half ago, my horse had a clean, straight laceration on his chest, skin only, that was vertical and about 6 inches in length. The vet was out and stitched him up, also gave him a shot of pennicillin. The cut is not sore, and there's no great swelling, but there seems to be some yellow-y pus on it, and I'm wondering if I should put a topical antibacterial treatment. He lives outside most of the time, shut up at night.

Is this infection? Or just part of the natural healing process? Please help!

Also, if I use an anti-bacterial topical treatment, what can I use from the regular drugstore?

lady dumpling · 02-26-2009, 05:53 PM

I use Derma Gel for cuts on my horses I have always been happy with it.It is a product that retails at our Vet office.We have been studying first aid in pony club and have had two different clinics with two different Vets,both highly recommend it also,but the both also said that polysporin (can be bought in a drug store works O.K. too.Goood luck with his cut I hope he gets better soon.

seerfarm · 02-26-2009, 05:57 PM

Pictures would be helpful.

However, is it mucousy looking and thick or is it more of a clear type serum? Any smell to it? I am assuming the stitches are still in, yes or no. If so, any irritation around the stiches themselves?

I know questions, questions, questions...

I always aire on the side of caution and would scrub gently with a mild antibacterial wash, pat dry and then apply something like Novalsun or even Neosporin could work.

Sonseeahray's_girl · 02-26-2009, 06:02 PM

I know, pics would be best, but I have no good light out there...I'll try and see what I get.

I tried dabbing it with some warm water, and the cloth had yellowy stains on it when it touched him, so I'm gonna say it's thick, not clear. The stitches are still in, they're absorbable ones. There seems to be some crusties around them, and once the crusties were softened with the water, then I could see the yellowish stuff underneath.

He's not in pain or discomfort, is quite frisky out in the pasture, and doesn't react at all when I touch him.

Carri · 02-26-2009, 06:15 PM

Cricket injured herself on Monday, and I talked to the vet today and told him that she has a lot of mucous draining out of her wound. He said that was normal and he would expect it at this stage. She is not overly sore, and the drainage has no smell.

Sonseeahray's_girl · 02-26-2009, 06:24 PM

What about tincture of iodine?

Gramma Sassy · 02-26-2009, 06:44 PM

Tiz the season???? Fancy had a laceration, I called out the vet who cut away the bloody hair and saw that she had a puncture as well, she cleaned it out, boosted her tetnus, gave her a shot of long lasting penicillin, warned me that there would be some pus as the wound healed from the inside out, she advised me to spray the wound with scarlex (red oil) it's antibacterial and the oil keeps the edges of the wound from getting crusty and speeds healing.

I have also used furazone, both scarlex and furazone can be purchased at Tractor supply, or Home of Economy, I have also seen it on the shelf at Fleet Farm. Were I going to use the drugstore, I'd consider neosporin.

Iodine is caustic and would / could sting. Would also dry out the wound, according to my vet that's not a great thing.
Good luck

canteringkids · 02-26-2009, 06:54 PM

Depending on how low on the chest the laceration is, "normal" drainage may be a bit more prolific (gravity sometimes causes more cellulitis and edema when the wound is low. Keeping it clean with the least amount of moisture is the way to go. I would stay away from iodine. I'm a huge fan of Nolvasan Ointment but it can be hard to find (pricey too). Any triple-antibiotic cream works well too.

crittermom · 02-26-2009, 06:55 PM

Neosporin is good and can be bought most anywhere. Good luck in the healing process.

Sonseeahray's_girl · 02-26-2009, 06:56 PM

The iodine I'm referring to is a 2.5% solution...not 100%, which would be too much. Thanks guys for your help!

The laceration is right on the front of his chest, and goes to where the chest starts to curve under towards his belly.

Carri · 02-26-2009, 07:32 PM

Sonsee, my first choice is generally a chlorahexidine or Novalson solution, betadine is my second choice, mixed in water to make it the color of iced tea (it doesn't take much betadine).

I use Novalson ointment, also, but Neosporin or something like that is great too!

Sonseeahray's_girl · 02-26-2009, 07:38 PM

Carri, why do you water down the betadine? Just wondering...

Carri · 02-26-2009, 07:44 PM

It burns if you don't, and is just as effective. It is generally sold as a concentrate.

Sonseeahray's_girl · 02-26-2009, 07:51 PM

okay, well hubby just picked up something called Povidone-Iodine Solution, which has 10% povidone iodine. Do you think I should still dilute it?

Carri · 02-26-2009, 08:01 PM

Yes! That is perfect, dilute it and flush the wound with that 2 or 3 times a day.

Gramma Sassy · 02-26-2009, 08:03 PM

your call of course, but I'd stay away from the iodine

lady dumpling · 02-26-2009, 08:56 PM

I use Betadine watered down to clean out cuts, not sure and I don't want to start a bad rumor ,but I was told that Furazone isn't always recomended any more because of studies regarding it being associated with cancer .Polysporin comes in a triple antibiotic ointment.

Druydess · 02-26-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonseeahray's_girl

About a week and a half ago, my horse had a clean, straight laceration on his chest, skin only, that was vertical and about 6 inches in length. The vet was out and stitched him up, also gave him a shot of pennicillin. The cut is not sore, and there's no great swelling, but there seems to be some yellow-y pus on it, and I'm wondering if I should put a topical antibacterial treatment. He lives outside most of the time, shut up at night.

Is this infection? Or just part of the natural healing process? Please help!

Also, if I use an anti-bacterial topical treatment, what can I use from the regular drugstore?

Sero-sanguinous, which is yellow or pink-ish, drainage is normal.
Thick, pudding-yellow or green is infection. If you squeeze the wound, does thick, purulent pus-like drainage come out?
Is it hot to touch?
No swelling is good.
Wash it with soap and water and apply topical above...
If there is nasty pus drainage, express it, wash it, and apply ointment.

racetrackgirl · 02-26-2009, 09:38 PM

There are a couple of products on the market, Aluspray and Alufilm. They are both pretty much the same thing and I've had a lot of luck with them. I

Sonseeahray's_girl · 02-26-2009, 09:51 PM

RTG, I've used the alluspray on more superficial cuts before, and it works great as a way to keep dirt and flies out...not sure if it would work in this situation, but I just might give it a try!

I will take another look at it tomorrow and give an update. I used the Betadine-type stuff tonight, full strength on the cut, and while he gave a little reaction, nothing too major, so I don't think it was killing him.

He usually lets me know if it stings too badly, although he is a long-suffering guy when it comes to treating stuff...he just likes being the centre of attention

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02-26-2009, 05:46 PM
Sonseeahray's_girl Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Top of the World! Posts: 2,864	Laceration Treatment Advice Please MORE PICS PG 3 About a week and a half ago, my horse had a clean, straight laceration on his chest, skin only, that was vertical and about 6 inches in length. The vet was out and stitched him up, also gave him a shot of pennicillin. The cut is not sore, and there's no great swelling, but there seems to be some yellow-y pus on it, and I'm wondering if I should put a topical antibacterial treatment. He lives outside most of the time, shut up at night. Is this infection? Or just part of the natural healing process? Please help! Also, if I use an anti-bacterial topical treatment, what can I use from the regular drugstore? __________________ Horses don't always stand quietly and wait for you to get smart -Beth Last edited by Sonseeahray's_girl : 03-08-2009 at 01:40 PM.

02-26-2009, 05:53 PM
lady dumpling Long Yearling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: alberta Posts: 1,314	I use Derma Gel for cuts on my horses I have always been happy with it.It is a product that retails at our Vet office.We have been studying first aid in pony club and have had two different clinics with two different Vets,both highly recommend it also,but the both also said that polysporin (can be bought in a drug store works O.K. too.Goood luck with his cut I hope he gets better soon. __________________ Good thing my horses can't post about MY vices!

02-26-2009, 05:57 PM
seerfarm Bombproof Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Out with the Herd! Posts: 9,633	Pictures would be helpful. However, is it mucousy looking and thick or is it more of a clear type serum? Any smell to it? I am assuming the stitches are still in, yes or no. If so, any irritation around the stiches themselves? I know questions, questions, questions... I always aire on the side of caution and would scrub gently with a mild antibacterial wash, pat dry and then apply something like Novalsun or even Neosporin could work. __________________ "One must be a god to be able to tell successes from failures without making a mistake".

02-26-2009, 06:02 PM
Sonseeahray's_girl Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Top of the World! Posts: 2,864	I know, pics would be best, but I have no good light out there...I'll try and see what I get. I tried dabbing it with some warm water, and the cloth had yellowy stains on it when it touched him, so I'm gonna say it's thick, not clear. The stitches are still in, they're absorbable ones. There seems to be some crusties around them, and once the crusties were softened with the water, then I could see the yellowish stuff underneath. He's not in pain or discomfort, is quite frisky out in the pasture, and doesn't react at all when I touch him. __________________ Horses don't always stand quietly and wait for you to get smart -Beth

02-26-2009, 06:15 PM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,646	Cricket injured herself on Monday, and I talked to the vet today and told him that she has a lot of mucous draining out of her wound. He said that was normal and he would expect it at this stage. She is not overly sore, and the drainage has no smell.

02-26-2009, 06:24 PM
Sonseeahray's_girl Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Top of the World! Posts: 2,864	What about tincture of iodine? __________________ Horses don't always stand quietly and wait for you to get smart -Beth

02-26-2009, 06:44 PM
Gramma Sassy Long Yearling Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,296	Tiz the season???? Fancy had a laceration, I called out the vet who cut away the bloody hair and saw that she had a puncture as well, she cleaned it out, boosted her tetnus, gave her a shot of long lasting penicillin, warned me that there would be some pus as the wound healed from the inside out, she advised me to spray the wound with scarlex (red oil) it's antibacterial and the oil keeps the edges of the wound from getting crusty and speeds healing. I have also used furazone, both scarlex and furazone can be purchased at Tractor supply, or Home of Economy, I have also seen it on the shelf at Fleet Farm. Were I going to use the drugstore, I'd consider neosporin. Iodine is caustic and would / could sting. Would also dry out the wound, according to my vet that's not a great thing. Good luck __________________ ~God is good, but tiz best not to dance in a small boat~ VOTE FOR "DUSTY TRAILS HORSE RESCUE" DAILY IN THE PETFINDER SHELTER CHALLENGE! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

02-26-2009, 06:54 PM
canteringkids Weanling Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 442	Depending on how low on the chest the laceration is, "normal" drainage may be a bit more prolific (gravity sometimes causes more cellulitis and edema when the wound is low. Keeping it clean with the least amount of moisture is the way to go. I would stay away from iodine. I'm a huge fan of Nolvasan Ointment but it can be hard to find (pricey too). Any triple-antibiotic cream works well too.

02-26-2009, 06:55 PM
crittermom Greenbroke Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,228	Neosporin is good and can be bought most anywhere. Good luck in the healing process. __________________ Peace!! I wish the people of the world could get along as well as the animals in my backyard.

02-26-2009, 06:56 PM
Sonseeahray's_girl Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Top of the World! Posts: 2,864	The iodine I'm referring to is a 2.5% solution...not 100%, which would be too much. Thanks guys for your help! The laceration is right on the front of his chest, and goes to where the chest starts to curve under towards his belly. __________________ Horses don't always stand quietly and wait for you to get smart -Beth

02-26-2009, 07:32 PM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,646	Sonsee, my first choice is generally a chlorahexidine or Novalson solution, betadine is my second choice, mixed in water to make it the color of iced tea (it doesn't take much betadine). I use Novalson ointment, also, but Neosporin or something like that is great too!

02-26-2009, 07:38 PM
Sonseeahray's_girl Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Top of the World! Posts: 2,864	Carri, why do you water down the betadine? Just wondering... __________________ Horses don't always stand quietly and wait for you to get smart -Beth

02-26-2009, 07:44 PM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,646	It burns if you don't, and is just as effective. It is generally sold as a concentrate.

02-26-2009, 07:51 PM
Sonseeahray's_girl Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Top of the World! Posts: 2,864	okay, well hubby just picked up something called Povidone-Iodine Solution, which has 10% povidone iodine. Do you think I should still dilute it? __________________ Horses don't always stand quietly and wait for you to get smart -Beth

02-26-2009, 08:01 PM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,646	Yes! That is perfect, dilute it and flush the wound with that 2 or 3 times a day.

02-26-2009, 08:03 PM
Gramma Sassy Long Yearling Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,296	your call of course, but I'd stay away from the iodine __________________ ~God is good, but tiz best not to dance in a small boat~ VOTE FOR "DUSTY TRAILS HORSE RESCUE" DAILY IN THE PETFINDER SHELTER CHALLENGE! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/c...faces?siteId=3

02-26-2009, 08:56 PM
lady dumpling Long Yearling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: alberta Posts: 1,314	I use Betadine watered down to clean out cuts, not sure and I don't want to start a bad rumor ,but I was told that Furazone isn't always recomended any more because of studies regarding it being associated with cancer .Polysporin comes in a triple antibiotic ointment. __________________ Good thing my horses can't post about MY vices!

02-26-2009, 09:38 PM
racetrackgirl Halter broke Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: alberta Posts: 114	There are a couple of products on the market, Aluspray and Alufilm. They are both pretty much the same thing and I've had a lot of luck with them. I

02-26-2009, 09:51 PM
Sonseeahray's_girl Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Top of the World! Posts: 2,864	RTG, I've used the alluspray on more superficial cuts before, and it works great as a way to keep dirt and flies out...not sure if it would work in this situation, but I just might give it a try! I will take another look at it tomorrow and give an update. I used the Betadine-type stuff tonight, full strength on the cut, and while he gave a little reaction, nothing too major, so I don't think it was killing him. He usually lets me know if it stings too badly, although he is a long-suffering guy when it comes to treating stuff...he just likes being the centre of attention __________________ Horses don't always stand quietly and wait for you to get smart -Beth