Scam?

Crookedblaze · 09-06-2008, 12:38 PM

A response to Mac's ad from Equine.com. I find it a little suspicious. She's in Fort Myers, Florida. There was a phone number included in her description.

I absolutely LOVE the looks of this guy! Sound? Healthy? Any sight problems? Would you consider (upon full payment) holding him for about a month? Not sure if you're boarding or if you are able to... Let me know as I'm highly interested!
Best Regards,
Heather
Star Bound Stables

Gotta Love Duns · 09-06-2008, 12:44 PM

Hmm possibly not, she provided a stable that you can link into as well as a phone number that you can call. Did she want more pictures or information on him?

reiningfan · 09-06-2008, 12:48 PM

It reads well, asks reasonable questions. I would google her, and her e-mail address. If you don't come up with anything shady, respond. The worst that can happen is you've wasted a few minutes of your time.
We had one guy phone from Michigan about one of my horses. Turned out he was serious, but I didn't respond to the first few e-mails from them due to the distance. Figured they were just tire kickers.
It looks like she has some horses advertised for sale too. Looks like a nice facility.

bitgirl_95 · 09-06-2008, 12:49 PM

well heres some horses she has for sale: http://www.equinenow.com/farm/star_bound_stables.htm i dont think its a scam?

Crookedblaze · 09-06-2008, 01:00 PM

Yeah, I googled the farm and I found she has horses for sale. Now I feel better.

I'm so worried, especially around here of meat buyers. We're so close to the boarder it would take nothing to get him into Mexico.

rivervu2 · 09-06-2008, 01:02 PM

Not all long distance buyers are scammers. We bought our filly that way but both parties were very careful. I would probably question why she wants your horse when she's selling her horse because of money issues. I may be wrong but she is probably a dealer so if you want your horse in a forever-after home this is probably not it.

Drafty · 09-06-2008, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crookedblaze

A response to Mac's ad from Equine.com. I find it a little suspicious. She's in Fort Myers, Florida. There was a phone number included in her description.

I absolutely LOVE the looks of this guy! Sound? Healthy? Any sight problems? Would you consider (upon full payment) holding him for about a month? Not sure if you're boarding or if you are able to... Let me know as I'm highly interested!
Best Regards,
Heather
Star Bound Stables

That does NOT sound like a scam -- at all. Sorry but no red flags. Could be a kid or a teen... or just a very outgoing adult.

Crookedblaze · 09-06-2008, 02:17 PM

The scams are getting better an better, and I am the most gullible idiot, so I just wanted to double check. My mom isn't a horseperson and doesn't understand the type of things that horsepeople ask when buying a horse - she thinks that when they ask about the paws of a horse they are legit.

Well, I'll give her a chance and see if she likes him.

Mac would like Florida.

DappleGrayMyWay · 09-06-2008, 04:47 PM

Well I don't think it's a scam, so much, but there are two things that are really standing out as not really being great. One, she's got horses for sale. So, I have to doubt she wants Mac as her own horse for any amount of time. Second, you're in California, she's in Florida. You're not likely to be able to go see him again, that is one heck of a long way to ship a horse, and it kind of makes for a difficult choice.

You will know what is right for Mac. Maybe she is okay and you'll find that out and tell me how wrong I am (I don't mind, I'm often wrong).

snwflk · 09-06-2008, 05:00 PM

I dont think its a scam, but under her listing of the horses, she said she has to get some of the horses sold because they are just sitting there, because she had a car accident- I would say no go- not cuz of a scam, just doesnt sound like the right home for him.

There has to be someone closer also-

Crookedblaze · 09-06-2008, 06:12 PM

I think I might have already sold him to a neighbor! Hopefuly the guy will go through.

DappleGrayMyWay · 09-06-2008, 06:15 PM

Oh that's the best!! I'll send GOOD THOUGHTS that Mac goes to the neighbor!

(I was just about to start another post begging you NOT to sell to this other person...LOL...not that it would have done any good, but you've got it all under control!)

Sunlei · 09-06-2008, 06:18 PM

A reseller perhaps but not a scam. I don't know what price you're selling at. Could be a low enough price and if you're willing to wait a month so her transporter will be in your area, this saves her more money to sell him before he needs to travel. She may buy him or many of the other nice horse she's sent this email too.

Your selling price may be to low. if resellers see additional profit to be made off your horse.

Hey, I edited because I read your neighbor may take your horse. That's great you will be able to visit him, hope that works out for you.

Lady_MCSE · 09-06-2008, 06:35 PM

The "will you hold him for a month" sounds shady. Maybe it's not the traditional nigerian money order thing, but I have heard of people advertising other people's horses before.

Buyer begs to hold horse, maybe with\without deposit.
Buyer begins advertising horse for more than offered to seller.
As soon as buyer gets another interested person, buyer comes to pick up horse.
Buyer has either zero investment, or gives up the small deposit.
If no other interest, buyer may beg for extra time, dragging it out. Meanwhile buyer is not out anything, but the seller is out the feed and stopped advertising the horse for the duration.

I'm NOT saying I have any personal experience with this particular person nor this particular scheme. Just describing what I've heard of.

Crookedblaze · 09-06-2008, 06:37 PM

I'm selling Mac for $600. I had him advertised at $750 for months and got 3 hits on him.

Thanks everyone!

horselady · 09-06-2008, 06:43 PM

it does not make sense to me that she would be willing to buy and ship a $600.00 horse unless she has a customer looking for that particular horse for more money.
Sell local to your neighbor., hope it all works out.,

Crookedblaze · 09-06-2008, 06:49 PM

Yep, horselady, that's what I thought too.

Mac is definitely going to stay locally. I've offically decided. Then I won't go through a really bad withdrawl.

lelo2006 · 09-07-2008, 12:28 PM

Doubt it is a scam. To well written, proper grammer for the most part and spelling is great. Plus they didn't ask you for "last asking price" or you name, phone number and address so they know where to send the cashiers check to.
Sound like an actual buyer who is interested in your horse. Good luck with it.

ToveroMom · 09-07-2008, 12:40 PM

Just odd to buy a horse that cheap-with his back issue-only to double the cost[at least] to ship him to FL.
glad you have a local nibble

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09-06-2008, 12:38 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,360	Scam? A response to Mac's ad from Equine.com. I find it a little suspicious. She's in Fort Myers, Florida. There was a phone number included in her description. I absolutely LOVE the looks of this guy! Sound? Healthy? Any sight problems? Would you consider (upon full payment) holding him for about a month? Not sure if you're boarding or if you are able to... Let me know as I'm highly interested! Best Regards, Heather Star Bound Stables __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

09-06-2008, 12:44 PM
Gotta Love Duns Bombproof Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dixonville, Alberta Posts: 7,806	Hmm possibly not, she provided a stable that you can link into as well as a phone number that you can call. Did she want more pictures or information on him? __________________ A penny saved is a penny you can spend on your next horse.

09-06-2008, 12:48 PM
reiningfan Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Western Manitoba, Canada Posts: 516	It reads well, asks reasonable questions. I would google her, and her e-mail address. If you don't come up with anything shady, respond. The worst that can happen is you've wasted a few minutes of your time. We had one guy phone from Michigan about one of my horses. Turned out he was serious, but I didn't respond to the first few e-mails from them due to the distance. Figured they were just tire kickers. It looks like she has some horses advertised for sale too. Looks like a nice facility. Last edited by reiningfan : 09-06-2008 at 12:57 PM.

09-06-2008, 12:49 PM
bitgirl_95 Weanling Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 494	well heres some horses she has for sale: http://www.equinenow.com/farm/star_bound_stables.htm i dont think its a scam? __________________ Merry Christmas!

09-06-2008, 01:00 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,360	Yeah, I googled the farm and I found she has horses for sale. Now I feel better. I'm so worried, especially around here of meat buyers. We're so close to the boarder it would take nothing to get him into Mexico. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

09-06-2008, 01:02 PM
rivervu2 Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 915	Not all long distance buyers are scammers. We bought our filly that way but both parties were very careful. I would probably question why she wants your horse when she's selling her horse because of money issues. I may be wrong but she is probably a dealer so if you want your horse in a forever-after home this is probably not it.

09-06-2008, 02:17 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,360	The scams are getting better an better, and I am the most gullible idiot, so I just wanted to double check. My mom isn't a horseperson and doesn't understand the type of things that horsepeople ask when buying a horse - she thinks that when they ask about the paws of a horse they are legit. Well, I'll give her a chance and see if she likes him. Mac would like Florida. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

09-06-2008, 04:47 PM
DappleGrayMyWay Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NC (Asheville) Posts: 856	Well I don't think it's a scam, so much, but there are two things that are really standing out as not really being great. One, she's got horses for sale. So, I have to doubt she wants Mac as her own horse for any amount of time. Second, you're in California, she's in Florida. You're not likely to be able to go see him again, that is one heck of a long way to ship a horse, and it kind of makes for a difficult choice. You will know what is right for Mac. Maybe she is okay and you'll find that out and tell me how wrong I am (I don't mind, I'm often wrong). __________________ My sanity is with my horse, and if you see them, please send them back to the barn. Tule Pepper

09-06-2008, 05:00 PM
snwflk Yearling Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 523	I dont think its a scam, but under her listing of the horses, she said she has to get some of the horses sold because they are just sitting there, because she had a car accident- I would say no go- not cuz of a scam, just doesnt sound like the right home for him. There has to be someone closer also- __________________ Suzie Q

09-06-2008, 06:12 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,360	I think I might have already sold him to a neighbor! Hopefuly the guy will go through. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

09-06-2008, 06:15 PM
DappleGrayMyWay Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NC (Asheville) Posts: 856	Oh that's the best!! I'll send GOOD THOUGHTS that Mac goes to the neighbor! (I was just about to start another post begging you NOT to sell to this other person...LOL...not that it would have done any good, but you've got it all under control!) __________________ My sanity is with my horse, and if you see them, please send them back to the barn. Tule Pepper

09-06-2008, 06:18 PM
Sunlei Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 950	A reseller perhaps but not a scam. I don't know what price you're selling at. Could be a low enough price and if you're willing to wait a month so her transporter will be in your area, this saves her more money to sell him before he needs to travel. She may buy him or many of the other nice horse she's sent this email too. Your selling price may be to low. if resellers see additional profit to be made off your horse. Hey, I edited because I read your neighbor may take your horse. That's great you will be able to visit him, hope that works out for you. Last edited by Sunlei : 09-06-2008 at 06:21 PM.

09-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Lady_MCSE Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Shytown, IL Posts: 3,459	The "will you hold him for a month" sounds shady. Maybe it's not the traditional nigerian money order thing, but I have heard of people advertising other people's horses before. Buyer begs to hold horse, maybe with\without deposit. Buyer begins advertising horse for more than offered to seller. As soon as buyer gets another interested person, buyer comes to pick up horse. Buyer has either zero investment, or gives up the small deposit. If no other interest, buyer may beg for extra time, dragging it out. Meanwhile buyer is not out anything, but the seller is out the feed and stopped advertising the horse for the duration. I'm NOT saying I have any personal experience with this particular person nor this particular scheme. Just describing what I've heard of. __________________ Yes I can spell the way Webster tells me to. But why? I might spell correctly Tuesday thru Wensday tho.

09-06-2008, 06:37 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,360	I'm selling Mac for $600. I had him advertised at $750 for months and got 3 hits on him. Thanks everyone! __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

09-06-2008, 06:43 PM
horselady Greenbroke Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: albany new york Posts: 3,243	it does not make sense to me that she would be willing to buy and ship a $600.00 horse unless she has a customer looking for that particular horse for more money. Sell local to your neighbor., hope it all works out., __________________ www.rainbow-horse-retirement.com We love and take care of your companion for the remainder of his lifetime

09-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,360	Yep, horselady, that's what I thought too. Mac is definitely going to stay locally. I've offically decided. Then I won't go through a really bad withdrawl. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

09-07-2008, 12:28 PM
lelo2006 Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 873	Doubt it is a scam. To well written, proper grammer for the most part and spelling is great. Plus they didn't ask you for "last asking price" or you name, phone number and address so they know where to send the cashiers check to. Sound like an actual buyer who is interested in your horse. Good luck with it. __________________ I love the smell of horse's in the morning. WRERS: Edmonton Based Horse Rescue. www.albertahorserescue.com

09-07-2008, 12:40 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 15,296	Just odd to buy a horse that cheap-with his back issue-only to double the cost[at least] to ship him to FL. glad you have a local nibble __________________ "In America,anyone can be President. That is one of the chances you take" Adlai Stevenson