Cremello and Perlino, what's the diff?

peepshall · 08-30-2008, 04:17 PM

So I have a filly and she is all pink skin, blue eyes, a creamish tone not white to her coat, she even has some paint markings (cream and white)under her mane, and some of her mane is white and some is a shade darker than her cream coat. So is she a cremello or a perlino and how do you tell the difference between the two? I would post a pic but I can't find the cord that goes from my camera to my computer, sorry.

peepshall · 08-30-2008, 04:22 PM

Just to add... her mom was a palomino marked paint and the father is unknown.

breburtch · 08-30-2008, 04:29 PM

If I remember right cremello's whole body, mane and tail included are all that cream white colour and have pink skin around there eyes and muzzle(to me they kinda look naked lol)

and a perlino has the same body colour as the cremello but there manes and tails are darker usually a kind of rusty yellowy colour(not sure how to discribe the colour lol)

ETA: not sure but your girl sounds like she's a perlino..but I could be wrong

peepshall · 08-30-2008, 04:30 PM

Perhaps she's a confused Permello, haha!

ToveroMom · 08-30-2008, 04:32 PM

Without knowing who daddy is-no way to really pin down.
Pull hair and have it tested if breeding is an eventuality..
Some "cremellos" are actually genetically Perlino. They may have little to no 'darkness' in their points..but they are there in the genes.

paintsandquarters · 09-01-2008, 10:19 AM

You said the mare is a palomino

You have no idea what the sire is .

So .... quick lesson

Cremello comes from palominos which are a gold version of a red horse . Sorrels or chestnuts .

Perlino , comes from buckskin colored horses . Which are gold based bay horses .

Just a quick lesson , I would think she's a cremello since her mom is a palomino .

ThorArb · 09-01-2008, 10:23 AM

Genetically speaking-

Cremellos are sorrel/chestnut horses that have received TWO copies of the cream gene (Cr). They display light, creamy coats with pink skin and blue eyes. Their manes and tails will be the same color as their coats- cream or white colored.

Perlinos are black based horses that have received TWO copies of the cream gene (Cr). They display a cream-copper colored coat with pink skin and blue/hazel eyes. Their manes, tails and legs are usually rust colored or noticeably darker than their body coat.

Pictures of the horse in question would help a lot in determining if she is cremello or perlino.

Sassy · 09-01-2008, 10:26 AM

http://www.doubledilute.com/cremello.htm

http://www.doubledilute.com/perlino.htm

Here are two links that may help you out with discifering the difference between perlino and cremello's. I personally think the names should be reversed but that just me!

Soliae · 09-01-2008, 12:42 PM

Actually, no one has really spelled it out so here goes.

Cremello is, as stated, two copies of the Cr (cream) gene on a chestnut base coat. Agouti status is irrelevent for this term. Without the cream genes, this horse would be chestnut/sorrel - with one cream gene it would be palomino.

Perlino is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat THAT ALSO CARRIES AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be bay. With one copy, buckskin.

Smoky Cream is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat - WITHOUT AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be black. With one copy, it would also appear black but would be considered a "smoky black".

Cremello: ee aa (or Aa or AA) CrCr
Perlino: EE (or Ee) Aa (or AA) CrCr
Smoky Cream: EE (or Ee) aa CrCr

Also, a horse carrying one cream and one champagne gene, on a chestnut basecoat, will look very similar to a cremello - but isn't. A horse with the Pearl gene along with a Cream will also look similar.

Genetic testing is a cheap and easy way to know for sure.

reiningfan · 09-01-2008, 01:16 PM

If you knew the color of the sire for sure, this would possibly be an easy one, because two red gene horses will ALWAYS make a red gene horse. But since you don't know for sure, if you really want a correct answer, genetic testing is the way to go. You often can't tell which color these horses are just from looks.

ThorArb · 09-02-2008, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soliae

Actually, no one has really spelled it out so here goes.

Cremello is, as stated, two copies of the Cr (cream) gene on a chestnut base coat. Agouti status is irrelevent for this term. Without the cream genes, this horse would be chestnut/sorrel - with one cream gene it would be palomino.

Perlino is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat THAT ALSO CARRIES AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be bay. With one copy, buckskin.

Smoky Cream is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat - WITHOUT AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be black. With one copy, it would also appear black but would be considered a "smoky black".

Cremello: ee aa (or Aa or AA) CrCr
Perlino: EE (or Ee) Aa (or AA) CrCr
Smoky Cream: EE (or Ee) aa CrCr

Also, a horse carrying one cream and one champagne gene, on a chestnut basecoat, will look very similar to a cremello - but isn't. A horse with the Pearl gene along with a Cream will also look similar.

Genetic testing is a cheap and easy way to know for sure.

Ah you are correct. Totally forgot to add in the Agouti in there.

HighHorse · 09-02-2008, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soliae

Actually, no one has really spelled it out so here goes.

Cremello is, as stated, two copies of the Cr (cream) gene on a chestnut base coat. Agouti status is irrelevent for this term. Without the cream genes, this horse would be chestnut/sorrel - with one cream gene it would be palomino.

Perlino is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat THAT ALSO CARRIES AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be bay. With one copy, buckskin.

Smoky Cream is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat - WITHOUT AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be black. With one copy, it would also appear black but would be considered a "smoky black".

Cremello: ee aa (or Aa or AA) CrCr
Perlino: EE (or Ee) Aa (or AA) CrCr
Smoky Cream: EE (or Ee) aa CrCr

Also, a horse carrying one cream and one champagne gene, on a chestnut basecoat, will look very similar to a cremello - but isn't. A horse with the Pearl gene along with a Cream will also look similar.

Genetic testing is a cheap and easy way to know for sure.

What a great way to explain this. I am saving it to my clipboard. Thank you!

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08-30-2008, 04:17 PM
peepshall Halter broke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 186	Cremello and Perlino, what's the diff? So I have a filly and she is all pink skin, blue eyes, a creamish tone not white to her coat, she even has some paint markings (cream and white)under her mane, and some of her mane is white and some is a shade darker than her cream coat. So is she a cremello or a perlino and how do you tell the difference between the two? I would post a pic but I can't find the cord that goes from my camera to my computer, sorry.

08-30-2008, 04:22 PM
peepshall Halter broke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 186	Just to add... her mom was a palomino marked paint and the father is unknown.

08-30-2008, 04:29 PM
breburtch Coming two Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ennismore, Ontario Posts: 1,863	If I remember right cremello's whole body, mane and tail included are all that cream white colour and have pink skin around there eyes and muzzle(to me they kinda look naked lol) and a perlino has the same body colour as the cremello but there manes and tails are darker usually a kind of rusty yellowy colour(not sure how to discribe the colour lol) ETA: not sure but your girl sounds like she's a perlino..but I could be wrong Last edited by breburtch : 08-30-2008 at 04:33 PM.

08-30-2008, 04:30 PM
peepshall Halter broke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 186	Perhaps she's a confused Permello, haha!

08-30-2008, 04:32 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 15,296	Without knowing who daddy is-no way to really pin down. Pull hair and have it tested if breeding is an eventuality.. Some "cremellos" are actually genetically Perlino. They may have little to no 'darkness' in their points..but they are there in the genes. __________________ "In America,anyone can be President. That is one of the chances you take" Adlai Stevenson

09-01-2008, 10:19 AM
paintsandquarters Newborn Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 28	Re Cremello or Perlino You said the mare is a palomino You have no idea what the sire is . So .... quick lesson Cremello comes from palominos which are a gold version of a red horse . Sorrels or chestnuts . Perlino , comes from buckskin colored horses . Which are gold based bay horses . Just a quick lesson , I would think she's a cremello since her mom is a palomino .

09-01-2008, 10:23 AM
ThorArb Kid Safe Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Conyers, GA Posts: 5,443	Genetically speaking- Cremellos are sorrel/chestnut horses that have received TWO copies of the cream gene (Cr). They display light, creamy coats with pink skin and blue eyes. Their manes and tails will be the same color as their coats- cream or white colored. Perlinos are black based horses that have received TWO copies of the cream gene (Cr). They display a cream-copper colored coat with pink skin and blue/hazel eyes. Their manes, tails and legs are usually rust colored or noticeably darker than their body coat. Pictures of the horse in question would help a lot in determining if she is cremello or perlino.

09-01-2008, 10:26 AM
Sassy Started Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,331	http://www.doubledilute.com/cremello.htm http://www.doubledilute.com/perlino.htm Here are two links that may help you out with discifering the difference between perlino and cremello's. I personally think the names should be reversed but that just me! __________________ A horse which stops dead just before a jump and thus propels its rider into a graceful arc provides a splendid excuse for general merriment. ~ DUKE OF ENDINBURGH ~

09-01-2008, 12:42 PM
Soliae Halter broke Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 127	Actually, no one has really spelled it out so here goes. Cremello is, as stated, two copies of the Cr (cream) gene on a chestnut base coat. Agouti status is irrelevent for this term. Without the cream genes, this horse would be chestnut/sorrel - with one cream gene it would be palomino. Perlino is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat THAT ALSO CARRIES AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be bay. With one copy, buckskin. Smoky Cream is two copies of the cream gene on a black basecoat - WITHOUT AGOUTI. Without the cream genes this horse would be black. With one copy, it would also appear black but would be considered a "smoky black". Cremello: ee aa (or Aa or AA) CrCr Perlino: EE (or Ee) Aa (or AA) CrCr Smoky Cream: EE (or Ee) aa CrCr Also, a horse carrying one cream and one champagne gene, on a chestnut basecoat, will look very similar to a cremello - but isn't. A horse with the Pearl gene along with a Cream will also look similar. Genetic testing is a cheap and easy way to know for sure. __________________ Click on the Eggs and Hatchlings to Help them Hatch and Grow!

09-01-2008, 01:16 PM
reiningfan Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Western Manitoba, Canada Posts: 516	If you knew the color of the sire for sure, this would possibly be an easy one, because two red gene horses will ALWAYS make a red gene horse. But since you don't know for sure, if you really want a correct answer, genetic testing is the way to go. You often can't tell which color these horses are just from looks.