Equine Massage Thereapist Sueing the State

BarnBum · 08-11-2008, 01:32 PM

http://news.aol.com/article/woman-su...-horses/127130

Saw this on the front page of AOL

gbarmranch · 08-11-2008, 01:36 PM

I hope she wins..

cameo05 · 08-11-2008, 01:41 PM

I agree, I hope she wins.

Slim Pikkens · 08-11-2008, 01:54 PM

Look at it from the vet's perspective. A lot of money and years are spent to become a vet. Wouldn't you want to protect your client base? It's up to the state to decide to offer state certified courses, but right now they are protecting their vets. If this woman were doing it for free that's one thing but by charging a fee she is practicing veterinary medicine without a license.

Wendy F · 08-11-2008, 02:02 PM

My siter is a vet. Specializes in Sports medicine. They do more Chiropracting and Acupuncture. I could understand these being limited, but not the Massage, as you do not have to be DR to perform on humans!

cameo05 · 08-11-2008, 02:03 PM

My vet doesn't offer this... I wished they would though. But the vets around here are to busy. SOmeone like this woman would be great

gbarmranch · 08-11-2008, 02:08 PM

I also look at it from the horse and horse owner's perspective.. For example, we have very few qualified equine vets in our area.. only one will we use out of 7 - the others are small animal doctors that like the big money from the "field trips", but are pretty worthless when it comes to diagnosis and treatment on equines..

I would rather have a trained masseuse be able to make my animals comfrotable, then waste the good vets time doing that procedure - assuming that he would - when he is needed to handle real emergencies or other equine medically related issues..

Maybe in your area there are more options.. but competent vets who specialize in large animals are becoming few and far between.. We had trained equine chiros and masseuses in AZ that were excellent.. I wish we had them here..

PaintsQH · 08-11-2008, 09:50 PM

Our vet practice has 4 (I think) vets practicing, and one does the accupuncture and massage work. They have really broadened out from the early days. You really didnt know who was coming out that day as they all did farm calls. One in particular is THE best with the foals and youngsters. He has a great way with them and knows what to really look for. He is in high demand in foaling season. He is Juniors Horsieatrician

Only one who has cared for him since in utero. Now if I could only find him a shrink

We also have a lady who is a human and equine chiropractor. She was 8 months pregnant and still out doing adjustments.

Sunlei · 08-12-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarnBum

http://news.aol.com/article/woman-su...-horses/127130

Saw this on the front page of AOL

Interesting, I hope other horse massage people in that state didn't lose their ability to earn a living.

I read recently, I think it was in the state of Pa. ,the Vets were lobbying to make equine teeth floaters have to be a Vet to do this. Some horsemen have been floating horses teeth as a business all their life.

I don't think some horse people need to be a Vet. to be a excellent floater, horse-massage or farrier.

SirenAlecto · 08-12-2008, 02:37 PM

Wow, that's weird. Have to be a vet to massage horses? Are they insane? She'll probably win (and I hope she does). Maybe MD can come up with some couple month long, state-wide certification for people to go through before they're liscenced, and nobody who isn't can't practise? That might be a good compromise. That way, any yahoo can't come out and accidentally mess up your horse's back.

thumpersgirl · 08-12-2008, 03:55 PM

I hope she wins too. It sounds to me like the local vets are just ticked that the money isn't going into their pockets.

Slim Pikkens · 08-12-2008, 08:54 PM

I think the issue is to get the state to set up courses whereby one would be certified upon completion, according to certain standards. Anyone can say they can teach this, or are qualified to do it but wouldn't you prefer the expectation of a state certified worker. Perhaps it's time to approach a local college in regards to running this type of course. It is available in Canada as part of the equine kinesiology courses.

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08-11-2008, 01:54 PM
Slim Pikkens Seasoned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,001	Look at it from the vet's perspective. A lot of money and years are spent to become a vet. Wouldn't you want to protect your client base? It's up to the state to decide to offer state certified courses, but right now they are protecting their vets. If this woman were doing it for free that's one thing but by charging a fee she is practicing veterinary medicine without a license.

08-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Wendy F Long Yearling Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,221	My siter is a vet. Specializes in Sports medicine. They do more Chiropracting and Acupuncture. I could understand these being limited, but not the Massage, as you do not have to be DR to perform on humans! __________________ Breaking,Training,Raising Quality bred QH's Home of Blue Roan Stallion "Blue Woody Hancock" AQHA, NFQHA 96.63% Foundation www.wfquarterhorses.com Training horses is a constant learning experience. We will never know it all!

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cameo05 Pasture Pet Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In my own world Posts: 12,321	My vet doesn't offer this... I wished they would though. But the vets around here are to busy. SOmeone like this woman would be great __________________ Life is a bed of roses, until you meet up with thorns.

08-11-2008, 02:08 PM
gbarmranch Pasture Pet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mayberry Posts: 32,635	I also look at it from the horse and horse owner's perspective.. For example, we have very few qualified equine vets in our area.. only one will we use out of 7 - the others are small animal doctors that like the big money from the "field trips", but are pretty worthless when it comes to diagnosis and treatment on equines.. I would rather have a trained masseuse be able to make my animals comfrotable, then waste the good vets time doing that procedure - assuming that he would - when he is needed to handle real emergencies or other equine medically related issues.. Maybe in your area there are more options.. but competent vets who specialize in large animals are becoming few and far between.. We had trained equine chiros and masseuses in AZ that were excellent.. I wish we had them here.. __________________ http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann Quality Foundation Quarter Horses If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself." Augustine of Hippo

08-11-2008, 09:50 PM
PaintsQH Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 3,664	Our vet practice has 4 (I think) vets practicing, and one does the accupuncture and massage work. They have really broadened out from the early days. You really didnt know who was coming out that day as they all did farm calls. One in particular is THE best with the foals and youngsters. He has a great way with them and knows what to really look for. He is in high demand in foaling season. He is Juniors Horsieatrician Only one who has cared for him since in utero. Now if I could only find him a shrink We also have a lady who is a human and equine chiropractor. She was 8 months pregnant and still out doing adjustments. __________________ Angels descending, bring from above, Echoes of mercy, whispers of love.

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SirenAlecto Weanling Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 264	Wow, that's weird. Have to be a vet to massage horses? Are they insane? She'll probably win (and I hope she does). Maybe MD can come up with some couple month long, state-wide certification for people to go through before they're liscenced, and nobody who isn't can't practise? That might be a good compromise. That way, any yahoo can't come out and accidentally mess up your horse's back.

08-12-2008, 03:55 PM
thumpersgirl Seasoned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,114	I hope she wins too. It sounds to me like the local vets are just ticked that the money isn't going into their pockets. __________________ Some people are like Slinkies; they're good for nothing, but make you smile when you push them down a long flight of stairs.

08-12-2008, 08:54 PM
Slim Pikkens Seasoned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,001	I think the issue is to get the state to set up courses whereby one would be certified upon completion, according to certain standards. Anyone can say they can teach this, or are qualified to do it but wouldn't you prefer the expectation of a state certified worker. Perhaps it's time to approach a local college in regards to running this type of course. It is available in Canada as part of the equine kinesiology courses.