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Old 07-26-2008, 06:27 PM  
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UPDATE on Help! Goat bloat emergency!

My reg. vet is out of town and her stand in doesn't do goats. The next clinic is over an hour away...I'm waiting for a call-back. My 2 month old goat boy is bloated and lying down looking miserable. He overate. Last night the 3 kids decided they like greens and denuded the pen. Need suggestions fast!

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Old 07-26-2008, 06:49 PM  
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I am not sure about this but try Pepto??? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1090512AAhSbRW Check this link out it talks about baking soda and oil?!?? Good luck keep us posted!
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I believe you can make a goat vomit just like a dog. Once my dog ate the entire contents of rotten trash that came from a broken freezer. I used the med in a child poison kit to make her vomit that garbage. (H. peroxide will make dogs vomit aswell)

Ask your Vet if theres still time to empty the goats belly or if goats can vomit. I'm not sure about over-eating goats or what med your Vet would recomend. Good luck with the goats.
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:04 PM  
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I've brought him into the kitchen since we're in the middle of an electrical storm. I've given him balls of baking soda and put corn oil into him. Hubbys off to buy pepto. I'm massaging his tummy like when my son had colic. Keep little Oreo in your thoughts. Thanks for the link!
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:28 PM  
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We've done Pepto, baking soda and corn oil and massaging. We popped him into the dog crate and took a long, bumpy ride over gravel and railroad tracks. He looks better but I know we're not out of the woods yet. Please keep Oreo in your thoughts that he makes it through the night.
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Oh Midnyte---i hope he is ok soon!!!! (((HUGS)))
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Awwww...poor baby. I hope he's ok very soon.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:09 PM  
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We used vegtable oil.. keep putting in into him
Also..and I am abit afraind to tell you all this, but I learned from an old friend of mine (who has raised goats for 50 years that if you litteraly pick them up by their back leg and swing them in a circle Centrfigal (sp)force will actually force tha gas out of their stomachs.. I though she was nuts when she told me this but when my goats both bloated this is what saved their lives
Of course the goats actually have to be small enough to do this with ( I'm
5'2" and 118 pounds )and it was all I could do to swing those goats around while my ungrateful children stood around and laughed

Hope your goat fare well!
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How is the little goat this morning?
I hope you managed to help it ,
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:19 AM  
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Your local farm store should carry C/D ANTITOXIN if they do get some and follow the instructions on the bottle or go to Fiasco Farms website and see what thier instructions are. Also if he is still in pain you can give 1cc of injectable bandimine (per 100#s). Some will say it's a one time dose but I know breeders that have given it once a day for several days in extream cases.

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Just checking for updates on how your little goat is doing this morning!? Sure hope he pulled threw ok?!
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Baking soda is the way to go in bloat. Sometimes, it takes several doses. I mix mine in a concotion of Nutridrench, corn oil, water, and a little karo to make it taste better. Then, I drench it once an hour until I see some relief. You should see the sides start to go down some and the goat will act much relieved.

If you keep a pan in their pasture of baking soda, they'll sometimes be able to stop themselves from bloating.

How is he this morning?

On green grass, you also want to watch for founder. Yes, goats will founder on a carbohydrate overload.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:20 PM  
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Update on Oreo:
Oreo made it through the night and looks as if nothing happened! He's back to eating hay and drinking water without bloating problems. I had him sleep in my kitchen last night as it was raining hard (he slept in a big dog crate, if you're envisioning the worst mayhem possible) and this morning popped out of the crate looking for food. I walked him outside and he did his business. His feces are somewhat mushy but are starting to form again. I'm planning a trip to our vet tomorrow to get an OK on him. Luckily, I live close to a goat supply and will buy the necessary stuff for him and any future problems. I gave him goat electrolytes (goat Gatorade!) to help him with any dehydration. I will always keep Pepto in the liquid form in the house and a dish of baking soda in the pen. I have taken the prepared milk bottle away (was planning on weaning them next weekend anyways). The babies are eating brome hay well and obviously are quite comfortable in eating vegetation! Seriously, it was like a plague of locusts hit the bushes and bramble in their pen overnight. I've had them for a week with the babies picking at the leaves and stuff without a giant pig-out on them, so it was a surprise. Oreo is now following me everywhere, and without much fuss on leash. I worked on that baby buck last night until I thought he was burping regularly. Needless to say, it was a late night. Just seeing him alert and moving around this morning was so worth it. Thanks for all the good thoughts. I truly believe that they helped!
This leads me to ask: do any of you goat owners feed a pelleted diet with the medicine in it on a regular basis? I'm very tempted to do so after this episode with Oreo.
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"pelleted diet with the medication in it" ? What pelleted feed and what medication? If you are talking about the Rumensin or Monison (sp)...coccidea prevention drug....I think they do an ok job if there is not already a problem. If the animal has a coccidea problem already we drench them with Albon or put it in the water bucket for 7 days monthly until they are 6 months old.

The only other feed additive I know of is amonium cloride (store bought) but thats for helping in the prevention of kidney stones/bladder stones. I don't know if it works or not we've never had a problem with that. The key to avoiding stones is a balanced diet.

We do add terimycin crumbles to our feed but it does not come that way. I mix it in for a week durring breeding season and then once a month after that. Supposedly it helps prevent clamydia based abortions. Can't say if it works or not but it's worth it for me to use it just incase.

Glad to hear he is doing better
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I'm really late coming in on this post----I would have recommended oil also. Glad all worked out well and you two now have an even "more special bond".
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:38 PM  
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Question medicated feed

Hi Karen-
The feed I'm considering is ACCO Feeds Showmaster Goat Developer Medicated. The drug ingredient is listed as Decoquinate 19.0 grams/ton, or 9.52 MG per pound. I think that's what the drug is: I can't read my writing. It says its for the prevention of coccidiosis in young goats. Is this bloat from coccidiosis brought on by overeating? I've never owned anything with more than one stomach before! Thanks.
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Coccidea is an organism that naturally lives in the goats intestins in times of stress they often multiply causing the runs, stunted growth and unthriftyness. If left untreated can cause perminent stunted growth and death.

A vet can easily do a fecal count for you on this. We do feed a medicated feed to our newly weaned kids along with medicated water. I know many breeders that use the medicated feed on thier goats and swear it works. For us it does not work alone we have low wet ground which seems to make coccidea worse which is why we add it to the water.

Bloat is caused by overeating or a fast change in diet. Keeping the baking soda out helps as does vaccinating for CD/T. The T is for tetunus horses carry it so it's good to have goats living on horse property vaccinated. Anytime we've had a bloat we've also given the CD Antitoxin it's the fast acting versin of the CD in CD/T.

Hope this makes sense I've not yet had my coffee.

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I was thinking of getting a little pet goat but I am just figuring out how much I do NOT know about them..
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I was thinking of getting a little pet goat but I am just figuring out how much I do NOT know about them..
I can honestly take care of 12 horses easier than 12 goats....why do I do it? I like goats and I make alot more money with them than we ever did horses.

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Old 07-28-2008, 10:34 AM  
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Tmom - for me, the problem with the goats is that the vet isn't as skilled as they purportedly are with horses. The goats are constantly throwing something at me that I have to research and treat. I had one bloat on me once...scary. I've had a neurologic problem that ended in death. I had bottle jaw because of a bad batch of wormer. Currently, I have one losing two front teeth for no apparent reason.

They can founder.

They are such odd little beasties!

Truly, though, they are totally worth it for the enjoyment they bring!

I'm glad Oreo is going to be okay! Bloat can be very, very scary!
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