Pure or Cross La Mancha?

ARSPSB · 06-27-2008, 06:47 PM

I got some goats from an auction, and I had thought then to be pure La Mancha but one of my friend said she thought at least one of them was a boer cross. What do you all think? This was them when I first got them

Not the all white one in the front but the others.

The two I kept [The brownish red head with the white body is the one someone thinks might be La mancha boer. They were all from the same seller.

Karen Cole · 06-28-2008, 07:54 AM

It's really hard to say having a red head does not always mean it's part Boer. The ears are generally a dead giveaway though, on the smaller red/white kid I can't see the ears very well. On the bigger on she very well could be a Boer/LaMancha also thinking because she still has horns. Most Boer breeders leave horns on and most Dairy breeders take them off.

Cute goats though
Karen

ARSPSB · 06-28-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Karen Cole

It's really hard to say having a red head does not always mean it's part Boer. The ears are generally a dead giveaway though, on the smaller red/white kid I can't see the ears very well. On the bigger on she very well could be a Boer/LaMancha also thinking because she still has horns. Most Boer breeders leave horns on and most Dairy breeders take them off.

Cute goats though
Karen

I think the red head is what makes them think boer. Everything about her to me says La Mancha. But Im not that experienced with boers.

ToveroMom · 06-28-2008, 09:24 AM

Well couldn't the other black headed goat be a Boer cross as well?
I love the la Manchas..whatever the cross is it is an attractive one.

**Range** · 06-28-2008, 10:03 AM

I can't be sure...though the elf ears could be the genetic influence of a Boer on a LaMancha that had no ears.

In my experience, my Boers stamp their cross babies very, very hard and no matter the color of the mama, they come out with the "hood" of a Boer and it's not always red. I have 2 100% Boer's with fully black heads.

Karen Cole · 06-28-2008, 10:25 AM

Our son has been raising LaBoers for the last few years all had elf ears but he's got one doe that has as close to a gopher ear as she could get. He's gotten two solid red does, an almost black buck, a red hooded doe with roan body, black and white paint and a buckskin paint.

All of the LaBoers we have are sired by Full Blooded Boer bucks not Boer % bucks....with red hoods. The second generation LaBoers all are also sired by Full Blooded Boer bucks have had floppy folded over ears like dogs, they also came in a variety of colores we've not had in our FB herd.

LaManchas are a colorfull breed so you never know what color your going to get. We bred a Purebred Sannen doe (white) to a Purebred LaMancha buck (also white) and got one one kid with elf ears and one brown/white kid with elf ears. Color is a crap shoot even with-in the Purebreds and w/o knowing the breeder I'd say it's impossible to tell for sure what they are.

Karen

Karen Cole · 06-28-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARSPSB

I think the red head is what makes them think boer. Everything about her to me says La Mancha. But Im not that experienced with boers.

Very possible although I know a breeder personally who has a hooded doe that is a Purebred LaMancha. Hoods do not always mean Boer just like 4 teats do no always mean Boer. I've personally seen 4 teated does in several breeds of Dairy goats. Whatever they are they are cute but then I just love LaManchas and baby goats are the cutest things.

Karen

**Promise Ranch** · 07-01-2008, 03:16 PM

I would suspect boer as well... We have bred LaBoer for a few seasons, and have only had one come out with a variation on the white body and colored head... She has a hood and a "cape".

Anywho, without papers, it's impossible to know. They are adorable though! I love my little crossies!

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06-27-2008, 06:47 PM
ARSPSB Yearling Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: maricopa, arizona Posts: 516	Pure or Cross La Mancha? I got some goats from an auction, and I had thought then to be pure La Mancha but one of my friend said she thought at least one of them was a boer cross. What do you all think? This was them when I first got them Not the all white one in the front but the others. The two I kept [The brownish red head with the white body is the one someone thinks might be La mancha boer. They were all from the same seller.

06-28-2008, 07:54 AM
Karen Cole Long Yearling Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,442	It's really hard to say having a red head does not always mean it's part Boer. The ears are generally a dead giveaway though, on the smaller red/white kid I can't see the ears very well. On the bigger on she very well could be a Boer/LaMancha also thinking because she still has horns. Most Boer breeders leave horns on and most Dairy breeders take them off. Cute goats though Karen

06-28-2008, 09:24 AM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 15,313	Well couldn't the other black headed goat be a Boer cross as well? I love the la Manchas..whatever the cross is it is an attractive one. __________________ "In America,anyone can be President. That is one of the chances you take" Adlai Stevenson

06-28-2008, 10:03 AM
Range Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back of Beyond Posts: 5,751	I can't be sure...though the elf ears could be the genetic influence of a Boer on a LaMancha that had no ears. In my experience, my Boers stamp their cross babies very, very hard and no matter the color of the mama, they come out with the "hood" of a Boer and it's not always red. I have 2 100% Boer's with fully black heads. __________________ If it harms none, do what you will.

06-28-2008, 10:25 AM
Karen Cole Long Yearling Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,442	Our son has been raising LaBoers for the last few years all had elf ears but he's got one doe that has as close to a gopher ear as she could get. He's gotten two solid red does, an almost black buck, a red hooded doe with roan body, black and white paint and a buckskin paint. All of the LaBoers we have are sired by Full Blooded Boer bucks not Boer % bucks....with red hoods. The second generation LaBoers all are also sired by Full Blooded Boer bucks have had floppy folded over ears like dogs, they also came in a variety of colores we've not had in our FB herd. LaManchas are a colorfull breed so you never know what color your going to get. We bred a Purebred Sannen doe (white) to a Purebred LaMancha buck (also white) and got one one kid with elf ears and one brown/white kid with elf ears. Color is a crap shoot even with-in the Purebreds and w/o knowing the breeder I'd say it's impossible to tell for sure what they are. Karen

07-01-2008, 03:16 PM
Promise Ranch Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Texas Posts: 1,482	I would suspect boer as well... We have bred LaBoer for a few seasons, and have only had one come out with a variation on the white body and colored head... She has a hood and a "cape". Anywho, without papers, it's impossible to know. They are adorable though! I love my little crossies! __________________ Crafty Cowgirl - We have the perfect gift for the "Horse Crazy" girl in your life! Handmade Horse Treats also available!