Why did my mini pygmy goat die?????

rms0706 · 10-30-2007, 09:20 AM

Yesterday I came home from work and looked out my window to check on my goats and they seemed find they were laying down together, which they do quite often. I went outside about 1/2 hour later and my female was making a horrible loud cry, I went over to her immediatly and noticed how pale her tongue looked and she was salavating and breathing funny. I called the vet he said to give her 1cc of banamine because she was in alot of pain. She collapsed before i even gave her the banamine. I administered the dose and with 10 minutes she died. What happened. I am new to goats but she has been fine. She hasn't acted sick and it went so fast. Within an hour of me noticing her sick. Her male companion is fine and has no symptoms of anything.This is horrible and I am so upset. I've been crying all night and going through my mind what I could have done for her.

gbarmranch · 10-30-2007, 09:23 AM

I am so sorry.. I know nothing about goats, but I do understand the heartbreak of losing a beloved pet... ((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))

seerfarm · 10-30-2007, 09:26 AM

I too have no explaination, but send my condolences in the lost of your pet and friend.

Kemstar · 10-30-2007, 09:30 AM

rms, I'm so sorry to hear about your goat. It's hard to say what happened, but to be certain, you may want to ask a vet to do a necropsy on her to set your mind at ease.

Are your other goats ok? Did she possibly get into something toxic? Did she have a history of illness? Was there any evidence in her pen that jcould give you additional clues? For the sake and safety of the rest of your herd, you may want to go out and check around.

Again, I'm so sorry for your loss. But please do try to clear your head and try to find the answer so you can get some rest knowing your other goats are safe.

Hugs and blessings are coming your way.

rms0706 · 10-30-2007, 09:35 AM

Thanks so much I just can't believe this happened

calicocalgirl · 10-30-2007, 09:40 AM

Sorry for your loss...I would have a necropsy done for sure. It sounds like it could be listeria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listeria . My pygmy goat died from that a few years ago. I also know of several others. It almost looked like rabies or something at first. Before we could even get the vet there he died. Our other goats were fine, but I do know of someone that had several goats die from it, once it started, she lost 12 total from it.

TanyaV28 · 10-30-2007, 09:50 AM

I am very very sorry. That is so sad. I have 14 pygmys!!!

CowhorseGal · 10-30-2007, 10:00 AM

I have lost goats to bloat... symptoms sound similar...

rms0706 · 10-30-2007, 10:05 AM

What is bloat? I did notice her stomache looked distended when she was in pain. I actually tried to feel if maybe she was pregnant and didn't know.

calicocalgirl · 10-30-2007, 10:09 AM

It could have been frothy bloat. Was she around alot of weeds or different kind of grasses lately? Usually you get frothy bloat from a change in diet. We are always careful about throwing new weeds or grasses into the pen or letting them out in something new for long periods. Bloat could have put pressure on her heart and lungs making it hard for her to breathe.

Dream Ponies · 10-30-2007, 10:09 AM

I am so sorry to hear about your goat. Many hugs to you!

horselady · 10-30-2007, 10:14 AM

So sorry to hear of the loss of your goat. It is so sad and difficult to understand sometimes.

gypsy · 10-30-2007, 10:19 AM

How often are you deworming them? Take a stool sample from you other goat in to have it checked for worms. Worms are a serious problem for goats, especially in the south.

Karen Cole · 10-30-2007, 10:25 AM

It could have been one of several things all of which would have been very difficult if not impossible to save her. Bloat needs imediate attention and the administration of Anti-Toxin...not the same thing as the C & D vaccine. Sometimes givng baking soda or oil helps but more often than not with bloat they do die. The stomachs swell putting pressure on the heart and lungs causing them to sufficate.

Pasturella Pnumonia there is a vaccine for it by the time you see symptoms 99% of them die. I've brought a few back from it however they never really recover and are not thrifty afterwards. The pnumonia attacks the lungs from the outside first basically calcifiying it by the time it reaches the inside the damage is done. Nuflor is a good antibiotic as is Tribrissen for this type of pnumonia however it must be caught quick death results in hours from Pasturella.

Goat Polio- is a lack of Thymin (RX) in the goats system often brought on by rapid change of weather and or food. Massive doses of Thymine can reverse if caught in time. Normally the goat will seem to be blind, off balance and circle, may cry out as if panicing. For Polio I give 6-12cc in the muscle twice a day and for two days after the symptoms clear up.

Listeria-Lysteriosis, Treatment is basically the same as for Polio but Penn. is given along with it. Best way to tell Polio from Listeria is Listeria has a fever with it.

Worms, some types of worms will cause sudden death like the Barber Pole worm. They cause massive internal bleeding the goats seem fine but die from organ failure due to lack of blood. Her paleness may be caused by this or extream pain. Tapeworms, thought to be invasive but not they can and will kill a goat w/o the goat looking as if it's loaded with them.

As was said earlier have her posted if you can but it should be done right away. Take a fecal in from your other goat as well , talk with your vet about treating for Tapeworms even if no eggs are seen. In doing thousands of fecals for a local vet I've only seen one Tapeworm egg.

Sorry about your goat.
Karen Cole

country-mare · 10-30-2007, 08:39 PM

So sorry about your little goat.
I lost my little girl last week.

rms0706 · 11-01-2007, 09:39 AM

Thanks so much everyone. We went and got Jack a new girlfriend. I'll try and get some pics and post them. She is so cute. Her name is lightning.

jtfer1968 · 11-01-2007, 09:47 AM

Sorry you lost you goat. I is very hard to loose a pet. ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) We lost our "Summer" pygmy goat a few months ago and my girls still talk about her, miss her and go out to where my hubby buried her.

farmergal · 11-01-2007, 02:16 PM

I'm sorry you lost your little one.

So what does Jack think of his new girlfriend lightning?

look forward to seeing pics.

rms0706 · 11-13-2007, 01:14 PM

Here is a link to see our new goat. Sorry it took so long.
http://s137.photobucket.com/albums/q...1106071641.jpg

farmergal · 11-13-2007, 01:40 PM

What a cute picture!

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10-30-2007, 09:20 AM
rms0706 Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PARRISH FLORIDA Posts: 164	Why did my mini pygmy goat die????? Yesterday I came home from work and looked out my window to check on my goats and they seemed find they were laying down together, which they do quite often. I went outside about 1/2 hour later and my female was making a horrible loud cry, I went over to her immediatly and noticed how pale her tongue looked and she was salavating and breathing funny. I called the vet he said to give her 1cc of banamine because she was in alot of pain. She collapsed before i even gave her the banamine. I administered the dose and with 10 minutes she died. What happened. I am new to goats but she has been fine. She hasn't acted sick and it went so fast. Within an hour of me noticing her sick. Her male companion is fine and has no symptoms of anything.This is horrible and I am so upset. I've been crying all night and going through my mind what I could have done for her.

10-30-2007, 09:23 AM
gbarmranch Pasture Pet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mayberry Posts: 32,635	I am so sorry.. I know nothing about goats, but I do understand the heartbreak of losing a beloved pet... ((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))) __________________ http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann Quality Foundation Quarter Horses If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself." Augustine of Hippo

10-30-2007, 09:26 AM
seerfarm Bombproof Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Out with the Herd! Posts: 9,633	I too have no explaination, but send my condolences in the lost of your pet and friend. __________________ "One must be a god to be able to tell successes from failures without making a mistake".

10-30-2007, 09:30 AM
Kemstar Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salem, Virginia Posts: 896	rms, I'm so sorry to hear about your goat. It's hard to say what happened, but to be certain, you may want to ask a vet to do a necropsy on her to set your mind at ease. Are your other goats ok? Did she possibly get into something toxic? Did she have a history of illness? Was there any evidence in her pen that jcould give you additional clues? For the sake and safety of the rest of your herd, you may want to go out and check around. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss. But please do try to clear your head and try to find the answer so you can get some rest knowing your other goats are safe. Hugs and blessings are coming your way. __________________ May we all ride as well as we do in our dreams!

10-30-2007, 09:35 AM
rms0706 Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PARRISH FLORIDA Posts: 164	Thanks so much I just can't believe this happened

10-30-2007, 09:40 AM
calicocalgirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: inbetweenhere&there, Pa Posts: 3,464	Sorry for your loss...I would have a necropsy done for sure. It sounds like it could be listeria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listeria . My pygmy goat died from that a few years ago. I also know of several others. It almost looked like rabies or something at first. Before we could even get the vet there he died. Our other goats were fine, but I do know of someone that had several goats die from it, once it started, she lost 12 total from it.

10-30-2007, 09:50 AM
TanyaV28 Started Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,195	I am very very sorry. That is so sad. I have 14 pygmys!!! __________________ Im movin on like a sinners prayer

10-30-2007, 10:00 AM
CowhorseGal Long Yearling Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,047	I have lost goats to bloat... symptoms sound similar... __________________ Quality Peformance horses with foundation breeding http://blackcanyonpaints.webs.com/

10-30-2007, 10:05 AM
rms0706 Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PARRISH FLORIDA Posts: 164	What is bloat? I did notice her stomache looked distended when she was in pain. I actually tried to feel if maybe she was pregnant and didn't know.

10-30-2007, 10:09 AM
calicocalgirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: inbetweenhere&there, Pa Posts: 3,464	It could have been frothy bloat. Was she around alot of weeds or different kind of grasses lately? Usually you get frothy bloat from a change in diet. We are always careful about throwing new weeds or grasses into the pen or letting them out in something new for long periods. Bloat could have put pressure on her heart and lungs making it hard for her to breathe.

10-30-2007, 10:09 AM
Dream Ponies Yearling Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NY Posts: 763	I am so sorry to hear about your goat. Many hugs to you!

10-30-2007, 10:14 AM
horselady Kid Safe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: albany new york Posts: 6,428	So sorry to hear of the loss of your goat. It is so sad and difficult to understand sometimes.

10-30-2007, 10:19 AM
gypsy Coming two Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Central AR Posts: 1,729	How often are you deworming them? Take a stool sample from you other goat in to have it checked for worms. Worms are a serious problem for goats, especially in the south.

10-30-2007, 10:25 AM
Karen Cole Started Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,533	It could have been one of several things all of which would have been very difficult if not impossible to save her. Bloat needs imediate attention and the administration of Anti-Toxin...not the same thing as the C & D vaccine. Sometimes givng baking soda or oil helps but more often than not with bloat they do die. The stomachs swell putting pressure on the heart and lungs causing them to sufficate. Pasturella Pnumonia there is a vaccine for it by the time you see symptoms 99% of them die. I've brought a few back from it however they never really recover and are not thrifty afterwards. The pnumonia attacks the lungs from the outside first basically calcifiying it by the time it reaches the inside the damage is done. Nuflor is a good antibiotic as is Tribrissen for this type of pnumonia however it must be caught quick death results in hours from Pasturella. Goat Polio- is a lack of Thymin (RX) in the goats system often brought on by rapid change of weather and or food. Massive doses of Thymine can reverse if caught in time. Normally the goat will seem to be blind, off balance and circle, may cry out as if panicing. For Polio I give 6-12cc in the muscle twice a day and for two days after the symptoms clear up. Listeria-Lysteriosis, Treatment is basically the same as for Polio but Penn. is given along with it. Best way to tell Polio from Listeria is Listeria has a fever with it. Worms, some types of worms will cause sudden death like the Barber Pole worm. They cause massive internal bleeding the goats seem fine but die from organ failure due to lack of blood. Her paleness may be caused by this or extream pain. Tapeworms, thought to be invasive but not they can and will kill a goat w/o the goat looking as if it's loaded with them. As was said earlier have her posted if you can but it should be done right away. Take a fecal in from your other goat as well , talk with your vet about treating for Tapeworms even if no eggs are seen. In doing thousands of fecals for a local vet I've only seen one Tapeworm egg. Sorry about your goat. Karen Cole

10-30-2007, 08:39 PM
country-mare Started Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fred, Texas Posts: 2,103	So sorry about your little goat. I lost my little girl last week.

11-01-2007, 09:39 AM
rms0706 Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PARRISH FLORIDA Posts: 164	Thanks so much everyone. We went and got Jack a new girlfriend. I'll try and get some pics and post them. She is so cute. Her name is lightning.

11-01-2007, 09:47 AM
jtfer1968 Long Yearling Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,265	Sorry you lost you goat. I is very hard to loose a pet. ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) We lost our "Summer" pygmy goat a few months ago and my girls still talk about her, miss her and go out to where my hubby buried her.

11-01-2007, 02:16 PM
farmergal Kid Safe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 6,063	I'm sorry you lost your little one. So what does Jack think of his new girlfriend lightning? look forward to seeing pics. __________________ Knowlege is out there, you just need to know where to look.

11-13-2007, 01:14 PM
rms0706 Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PARRISH FLORIDA Posts: 164	new goat Here is a link to see our new goat. Sorry it took so long. http://s137.photobucket.com/albums/q...1106071641.jpg

11-13-2007, 01:40 PM
farmergal Kid Safe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 6,063	What a cute picture! __________________ Knowlege is out there, you just need to know where to look.