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Old 11-18-2008, 02:47 PM  
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an akita is a guard dog..and they can be very agressive weather they are intacked or not ..your co worker should request the dog be destroyed, the dog will do this again, my ex inlaws had one, and my ex father in law was the local dog warden. his dog bit a girl who went into the yard...disregarding the signs and warnings. thats the breed, his dog was not safe and neither is this one.
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I don't remember saying anything about letting human murderers live
I never said you did!!! Just making a point that everybody wants to play God, yet the true dangers to society are allowed to live out their days in facilities that aren't half bad, not to mention that we taxpayers have to support. An animal can be rehabbed, but can a human who really has a twisted mind ever be safe?

As I said, I'm not against putting down a dog that is a danger. Perhaps this dog SHOULD be put down. I just believe people need to THINK before they dispense justice and so willingly kill. It shouldn't be EASY to take the life of anything, even a dog that hurt a person, because a dog isn't a villian it is just a dog. That's all I was trying to say.
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I would have that dog euthanized. JMO, but a dog that is people-aggressive is always going to be a danger to someone. What if next time it's a small child? I hope the owner thinks about that.

Also hope your coworker is going to be ok, dog bites are very painful.
I also agree with this.
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If I were your co-worker, I would sue for my bills to be paid, and to have the dog destroyed- If he is not , then he needs to be labeled as dangerous and the owners REQUIRED to have him NEUTERED and muzzled at all times off their property and be kenneled in the car or anywhere where he may come in to contact with other people.- AND TO NEVER EVER be allowed near children. I think he should be destroyed - but thats just me- I am a huge dog lover, but STUPID DOG OWNERS should be the ones in trouble when they are at fault for not PROPERLY handling and training their dogs- Akitas are NOT for the average owner- and definatly a INTACT MALE- I am so sorry your coworker got hurt-
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:08 PM  
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I just snipped myself I have a question to aks, but will do it on another thread, I'm sorry to hear that your co worker got hurt, and hope that she has a complete recovery, I know that dog bites can be really painful and take a while to heal.
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I don't think that putting the dog down is automatically the right answer.

When a dog is kennelled, it is already under high stress. Akitas are a very dominant breed, and need fair and clear training.

I *do* think the owners need to train him appropriately, and the dog should likely be neutered (who would want to pass on "iffy" genes?).

I happen to own a very dominant breed of dogs (Chesapeakes) who have been known to make their place in the pack clear (even when they're not at the top). Without proper training, these dogs become a nightmare. It sounds like this dog may have a loose screw. Until someone who is trained works with him, it's not fair to put him into environments that will lead to an untimely death.
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Dumb question here, but what are the "medicated wipes" for? Is it a case where the dog is subjected to pain when visited by the kennel workers? Not saying that excuses a vicious attack, but would be somewhat of an explanation.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:24 PM  
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Dumb question here, but what are the "medicated wipes" for? Is it a case where the dog is subjected to pain when visited by the kennel workers? Not saying that excuses a vicious attack, but would be somewhat of an explanation.
I'm not exactly sure (Ididn't check him in and never asked), but I do know I examined his pads/feet and didn't see any cuts, scrapes, or tender looking spots.
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I do feel sorry for both sides, dog and coworker. It does however sound like this boy should NOT be coming back to that kennel- And the owner should have to come and get him immediately-. I agree with the others that he is probably totally stressed and probably doesnt appreciate the wipes on his feet- (they may sting) like the other person said. But I do think it should be reported and the owner should have to pay all expenses for the coworker. I also think the nice coworker should get a week off and then be re-assigned to the cute puppy section . No more mean doggys for her.
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I never said you did!!! Just making a point that everybody wants to play God, yet the true dangers to society are allowed to live out their days in facilities that aren't half bad, not to mention that we taxpayers have to support. An animal can be rehabbed, but can a human who really has a twisted mind ever be safe?
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I believe in the death penalty. I also believe that they live better than what they should.
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I believe in the death penalty. I also believe that they live better than what they should.
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he needs to be labeled as dangerous and the owners REQUIRED to have him NEUTERED and muzzled at all times off their property

I agree with that.

I also think that the county / state / local spca needs to visit to ensure that the animal is in a safe contained area and will not be able to escape.
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I don't think we can equate a dog attack with a person who commits murder. I also don't agree that all dogs can be rehabbed. If I owned the dog, I would put him to sleep because I would worry forever that he would do this to someone again and it's not worth the hassle it could cause. What if he attacked a kid or severely disfigured someone?
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:10 PM  
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I never said you did!!! Just making a point that everybody wants to play God, yet the true dangers to society are allowed to live out their days in facilities that aren't half bad, not to mention that we taxpayers have to support. An animal can be rehabbed, but can a human who really has a twisted mind ever be safe?
I would rather pay to have them locked up, than have them running around on the streets. Keep in mind, not everybody in prison or in a penitentiary has committed murder, or other horrible things. Also, if they were sent to a place that had lower living conditions, then the people who put them in there are just as bad as the criminal.

Many animals cannot be "Rehabbed" just like humans, but each individual deserves the chance. If they don't, then they most likely will not get out anyways.

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I believe in the death penalty. I also believe that they live better than what they should.
I think this post has spiralled from a dog that should be put down, to a more intense discussion. The dog should be put down, that's that, and I hope the lady who was bitten gets better.
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A warning nip is one thing; a vicious attack is quite another. It sounds to me like the owner has ruined this dog and the only safe thing to do would be to euthanize the dog.

I hope your co-worker recovers uneventfully, DoBe. I also hope she can muster the courage to come back to work!
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:20 PM  
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I also agree with euthanization in cases like this. I mean, how could anyone ever trust a dog like that again? And what if it was a little kid next time?!? I know how much we all love our pets, but when it comes down to it, the life of a human far outweighs the life of a dog. Too bad the owners don't see it that way. Sending prayers to your friend for a quick recovery!
I couldn't have worded it better myself. I LOVE my pets but I would if this were my dog, I would put it down.
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:25 PM  
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I was bit in the face by a dog when I was about 5 years old...
I did not provoke him, according to my parents (too little to remember what I was doing), one minute we were playing, the next I had blood pouring out of 3 holes in my face; 2 of which were just millimeters from my eyes...
My parents did not request the dog be put down, but now that I'm older and a little smarter, I wish they had.
I don't feel that any dog who has willingly attacked a human, for no known reason, once taken out of quarentine, should be put back into anyone's hands.

Just my honest opinion..
OH NO!! I am sorry to hear that! Yah, the dog bit my daughter's lip/cheek. Scared her lip for life but I am so lucky that is all that it left behind. My daughter (like in your case) didn't do anything to provoke the dog. She was out runing in the front yard playing and the dog saw her and ran and attacked her. The dog is now back at home safe and happy. I was upset and have to see this dog daily as he lives where my horses are boarded. My daughter and this dog are NEVER allowed to be outside together at any given time ever again.

Could I have requested it to be put down?
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:29 PM  
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A warning nip is one thing; a vicious attack is quite another. It sounds to me like the owner has ruined this dog and the only safe thing to do would be to euthanize the dog.

I hope your co-worker recovers uneventfully, DoBe. I also hope she can muster the courage to come back to work!
I also agree, he bit her 4 times (at least there were 4 different spots), and he could have runout the doggie door(unobstructed exit for him)

She actually came to work today with her mom to pick up her car(I think she got an ambulance ride yesterday) and showed her mom the dog. She is going to be working in the office answering phones, cleaning the cats, etc. for awhile so she can still get the hours but work 1 handed, and let her dips her feet back in slowly.

animal control did come out yesterday and they called again today. They are coordinating with the owner as to where he is spending his 30 days at (not with us thank goodness). He should be gone today or tomorrow at the latest.
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I am surprised that this dog hasn't, at the very least, been booted out of the kennel.

I'll agree with other posters -- this isn't just a warning bite, this was an attack.

ETA: just read your latest post, DoBe. Glad he's not going to be at the kennel much longer!
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I'm not sure where his owners are right now (obviously gone somewhere or he wouldn't be boardign with us) but I don't think we can just kick him out with animal control on the case, they won't even let him leave the county until his 30 is up.
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