Sick puppies? Sad update prayers needed

CowhorseGal · 08-22-2008, 02:13 PM

I have a litter if pups right now that are about 7 weeks old. They are playful, energetic, eating puppy food well. running all over the place.. basically terrorizing the whole world.. ( well at least the part they can get to)

But I noticed yesterday one of them had diareha (sp?) by evening he seemed to be OK and no messes in the crate last night.. but now this morning there is anthoer one that has it.. It is only one and like I said everybody seems healthy except for that (bright eyes, alert ,cool wet noses and no temperatures)
anybody have any ideas as to why? or what I could give them to help them out?
I really don't have a bunch of money to take them to the vet to have them say "must of ate something that didn't agree with them" However, if the general consenses is that there is something major wrong I will find a way to get them there.. By the way they are a chihuahua toy poodle cross if anybody is interested in one!

short_kid · 08-22-2008, 02:40 PM

Do the adult dogs have all their vaccinations?
Have you or your family been in contact with sick dogs within the last 6 months?
Have you switched dog foods?
Have they started eating dog food?

CowhorseGal · 08-22-2008, 02:43 PM

Adult dogs are current on vaccines.
no contact with sick dogs
we have not changed puppy food. and as I said they are eating puppy food well.. the same food my vet recommended for the mom..

short_kid · 08-22-2008, 02:45 PM

Have they been outside in the heat?
Maybe try giving them a little yogurt? See if that will help their little bellies?

CowhorseGal · 08-22-2008, 02:52 PM

They do spend the days outside in a play yard in the shade on my porch it has a concrete floor that stays cools and a big blanket to sleep on. I bring them in at night. It hasn't been extremely hot here this week but I hadn't though of that. I will try the yogurt and see if that helps Thanks.

**beth55051** · 08-22-2008, 04:49 PM

Have a snap test done for Coccidia and Giardia. Very easy to treat and very common, tends to cause the runs in puppies, but most adult dogs have built up an immunity to them. Found in anything outside that might be wet.

Otherwise yes, plain yogurt is great for upset tummies.

horselady · 08-22-2008, 06:42 PM

Did they get first shots? and perhaps having a reaction to that? Did you check to see if they have a fever? Perhaps worming is needed.
Perhaps still getting adjusted to the food, Just so much than can cause puppy to have diarreha
When I had Rottie puppies I started them on human baby food. easy to digest

CowhorseGal · 08-22-2008, 08:19 PM

Ok this mught be dumb question but what is a snap test?
They have not had their first shots so that's not an option but I hadn't thought of that either! thanks I will keep that in mind for future pups(if there are any that is!)

Patty · 08-22-2008, 08:29 PM

could be puppy worms. try giving them boiled

chicken, chopped up with a little cooked rice. and see how they do on that and then I would give them a good puppy food like science diet. that will help with the runny

poops.
they they really should be wormed and start there shots soon.
Good Luck

and where are the puppy pictures

CowhorseGal · 08-24-2008, 12:13 PM

Sad news everyone. yesterday the pups were diagnosed with parvo. Of course my regular vet did not have any test do I had to go to the humane society.. they don't treat parvo cases but can test for it.. anyway, I was given and estimate by my vet to be about $600 per pup to treat.. way out of my price range

The humane society gave me a take home kit to treat them with and we tried that but unfortunately we lost 3 of them last night. 9for those of you who do not know this, the virus itself does not kill them, dehydration does, We are not sure were they got it from since my dogs are healthy and never leave the property. I am not keen on other peoples dogs comming on to my place. I can only assume that the mom picked it up at the Emergency vet clinc a bout 3 weeks ago (she had preclampsia).. I vaccinate my pups at 8 weeks but my vet said they can still get it until they have had all three sets of puppy shots.. so even vaccinating at the earliest I could which would have been one week ago would not have protected them..
Thanks you for all of the advice and ideas now if I may ask for your prayers, please keep the two remaining pups in your thoughts.. they are doing well so far one does not even show signs of being sick the other is keeping the pedialyte down and seems to be taking to the IV treatment OK.. maybe they will make it.

lawcat · 08-24-2008, 12:18 PM

Oh, I just read this thread and so sorry to hear that they have parvo...you are doing everything that you can, and in my experience, even with hospitalization the outcome is not great....so don't feel bad about not hospitalizing them. With the i.v. treatments and pedialyte at home, you are doing all that the vet would do. You might want to google Parvo treatment...when I had a kitten with feline distemper (similar in symptoms to parvo) I ran across a lot of websites that talked about parvo and had advice for ways to try to help the puppies through....

My prayers are with the remaining little ones....

Kingpin · 08-24-2008, 12:21 PM

I knew they had parvo. It is the number one killer of pups. Always get pups shots for parvo. You can bring the virus in on your shoes, other dogs can bring it to pups. I am so sorry for you and your pups. I was just reading and scrolling and knew it was parvo. Used to raise Belgian Mals so watch everything with pups when you are raising them I am so sorry again and hope a couple survive for you. Chances are not good with parvo. I thought you started earlier with parvo shots, maybe it has been too long and I cannot remember but I thought we had given a couple if not three before pups left at twelve weeks.

arabiancowgirl · 08-24-2008, 12:23 PM

((((((HUGS)))))))) and ))))))))))PRAYERS(((((((((( going out to you and your pups

**gbarmranch** · 08-24-2008, 12:55 PM

I am so sorry.. that stuff is horrible... Prayers headed your way for the rest of the puppies..

short_kid · 08-24-2008, 01:03 PM

I am so sorry. Parvo is awful and can last between 6 months and a year in the ground or other affected areas. At least that is what I have been told. Clean everything you can with bleach and water solution.

Crookedblaze · 08-24-2008, 01:11 PM

I am so sorry to hear about your babies

It's hard on them, but I've had 2 puppies that pulled through without vet help.

I hope they get better. Sending my prayers.

**seerfarm** · 08-24-2008, 03:43 PM

Sending my thoughts and prayers for the little ones. I am sorry to hear about the others.

Katy Boatright · 08-24-2008, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingpin

I knew they had parvo. It is the number one killer of pups. Always get pups shots for parvo. You can bring the virus in on your shoes, other dogs can bring it to pups. I am so sorry for you and your pups. I was just reading and scrolling and knew it was parvo. Used to raise Belgian Mals so watch everything with pups when you are raising them I am so sorry again and hope a couple survive for you. Chances are not good with parvo. I thought you started earlier with parvo shots, maybe it has been too long and I cannot remember but I thought we had given a couple if not three before pups left at twelve weeks.

Unfortunately it's true.

Most puppies don't live through Parvo. The best thing you can do is keep everything steralized. Give them as much pedialite as you can. The thing about Parvo is that it dehydrates them. If you have to lay them on their backs to keep the pedialite in them, do it. KEEP THEM HYDRATED! I can't stress that enough.

ahlihaff · 08-24-2008, 05:37 PM

So sorry to read this. I do hope the remaining puppies will get well.

Carri · 08-24-2008, 05:38 PM

I am so, so sorry. Tamiflu is proving to be a wonder drug in treating Parvovirus, and it is not that expensive. Maybe it would help the remaining two? Your vet may not have tried it, so he may be reluctant, but we are having good success with it at our clinic. We have not lost a pup to parvo in a really long time (close to a year).

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08-22-2008, 02:13 PM
CowhorseGal Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 345	Sick puppies? Sad update prayers needed I have a litter if pups right now that are about 7 weeks old. They are playful, energetic, eating puppy food well. running all over the place.. basically terrorizing the whole world.. ( well at least the part they can get to) But I noticed yesterday one of them had diareha (sp?) by evening he seemed to be OK and no messes in the crate last night.. but now this morning there is anthoer one that has it.. It is only one and like I said everybody seems healthy except for that (bright eyes, alert ,cool wet noses and no temperatures) anybody have any ideas as to why? or what I could give them to help them out? I really don't have a bunch of money to take them to the vet to have them say "must of ate something that didn't agree with them" However, if the general consenses is that there is something major wrong I will find a way to get them there.. By the way they are a chihuahua toy poodle cross if anybody is interested in one! __________________ The more I know men the more I like my dog Last edited by CowhorseGal : 08-24-2008 at 12:14 PM. Reason: update

08-22-2008, 02:40 PM
short_kid Started Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 2,063	Do the adult dogs have all their vaccinations? Have you or your family been in contact with sick dogs within the last 6 months? Have you switched dog foods? Have they started eating dog food? __________________ Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.

08-22-2008, 02:43 PM
CowhorseGal Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 345	Adult dogs are current on vaccines. no contact with sick dogs we have not changed puppy food. and as I said they are eating puppy food well.. the same food my vet recommended for the mom.. __________________ The more I know men the more I like my dog

08-22-2008, 02:45 PM
short_kid Started Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 2,063	Have they been outside in the heat? Maybe try giving them a little yogurt? See if that will help their little bellies? __________________ Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.

08-22-2008, 02:52 PM
CowhorseGal Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 345	They do spend the days outside in a play yard in the shade on my porch it has a concrete floor that stays cools and a big blanket to sleep on. I bring them in at night. It hasn't been extremely hot here this week but I hadn't though of that. I will try the yogurt and see if that helps Thanks. __________________ The more I know men the more I like my dog

08-22-2008, 04:49 PM
beth55051 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Central Minnesota Posts: 4,733	Have a snap test done for Coccidia and Giardia. Very easy to treat and very common, tends to cause the runs in puppies, but most adult dogs have built up an immunity to them. Found in anything outside that might be wet. Otherwise yes, plain yogurt is great for upset tummies. __________________ *Do not mind anything that anyone tells you about anyone else. Judge everyone and everything for yourself.*

08-22-2008, 06:42 PM
horselady Greenbroke Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: albany new york Posts: 3,303	Did they get first shots? and perhaps having a reaction to that? Did you check to see if they have a fever? Perhaps worming is needed. Perhaps still getting adjusted to the food, Just so much than can cause puppy to have diarreha When I had Rottie puppies I started them on human baby food. easy to digest __________________ www.rainbow-horse-retirement.com We love and take care of your companion for the remainder of his lifetime

08-22-2008, 08:19 PM
CowhorseGal Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 345	Ok this mught be dumb question but what is a snap test? They have not had their first shots so that's not an option but I hadn't thought of that either! thanks I will keep that in mind for future pups(if there are any that is!) __________________ The more I know men the more I like my dog

08-22-2008, 08:29 PM
Patty Halter broke Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maine Posts: 82	could be puppy worms. try giving them boiled chicken, chopped up with a little cooked rice. and see how they do on that and then I would give them a good puppy food like science diet. that will help with the runny poops. they they really should be wormed and start there shots soon. Good Luck and where are the puppy pictures

08-24-2008, 12:13 PM
CowhorseGal Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 345	Sad update, prayers needed. Sad news everyone. yesterday the pups were diagnosed with parvo. Of course my regular vet did not have any test do I had to go to the humane society.. they don't treat parvo cases but can test for it.. anyway, I was given and estimate by my vet to be about $600 per pup to treat.. way out of my price range The humane society gave me a take home kit to treat them with and we tried that but unfortunately we lost 3 of them last night. 9for those of you who do not know this, the virus itself does not kill them, dehydration does, We are not sure were they got it from since my dogs are healthy and never leave the property. I am not keen on other peoples dogs comming on to my place. I can only assume that the mom picked it up at the Emergency vet clinc a bout 3 weeks ago (she had preclampsia).. I vaccinate my pups at 8 weeks but my vet said they can still get it until they have had all three sets of puppy shots.. so even vaccinating at the earliest I could which would have been one week ago would not have protected them.. Thanks you for all of the advice and ideas now if I may ask for your prayers, please keep the two remaining pups in your thoughts.. they are doing well so far one does not even show signs of being sick the other is keeping the pedialyte down and seems to be taking to the IV treatment OK.. maybe they will make it. __________________ The more I know men the more I like my dog

08-24-2008, 12:18 PM
lawcat Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 145	Oh, I just read this thread and so sorry to hear that they have parvo...you are doing everything that you can, and in my experience, even with hospitalization the outcome is not great....so don't feel bad about not hospitalizing them. With the i.v. treatments and pedialyte at home, you are doing all that the vet would do. You might want to google Parvo treatment...when I had a kitten with feline distemper (similar in symptoms to parvo) I ran across a lot of websites that talked about parvo and had advice for ways to try to help the puppies through.... My prayers are with the remaining little ones....

08-24-2008, 12:21 PM
Kingpin Weanling Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancaster, Ky Posts: 441	I knew they had parvo. It is the number one killer of pups. Always get pups shots for parvo. You can bring the virus in on your shoes, other dogs can bring it to pups. I am so sorry for you and your pups. I was just reading and scrolling and knew it was parvo. Used to raise Belgian Mals so watch everything with pups when you are raising them I am so sorry again and hope a couple survive for you. Chances are not good with parvo. I thought you started earlier with parvo shots, maybe it has been too long and I cannot remember but I thought we had given a couple if not three before pups left at twelve weeks.

08-24-2008, 12:23 PM
arabiancowgirl Long Yearling Join Date: May 2008 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 1,156	((((((HUGS)))))))) and ))))))))))PRAYERS(((((((((( going out to you and your pups __________________ I thank God for my horses and german shepherds.

08-24-2008, 12:55 PM
gbarmranch Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,229	I am so sorry.. that stuff is horrible... Prayers headed your way for the rest of the puppies.. __________________ Quality FoundationQuarter Horses http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann Minds are like parachutes – they only function when open – Thomas Dewar

08-24-2008, 01:03 PM
short_kid Started Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 2,063	I am so sorry. Parvo is awful and can last between 6 months and a year in the ground or other affected areas. At least that is what I have been told. Clean everything you can with bleach and water solution. __________________ Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.

08-24-2008, 01:11 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,434	I am so sorry to hear about your babies It's hard on them, but I've had 2 puppies that pulled through without vet help. I hope they get better. Sending my prayers. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

08-24-2008, 03:43 PM
seerfarm Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portal, Ga Posts: 7,822	Sending my thoughts and prayers for the little ones. I am sorry to hear about the others. __________________ The man who questions opinions is wise. The man who quarrels with facts is a fool.

08-24-2008, 05:37 PM
ahlihaff Greenbroke Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Western MA Posts: 3,635	So sorry to read this. I do hope the remaining puppies will get well.

08-24-2008, 05:38 PM
Carri Bombproof Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 10,086	I am so, so sorry. Tamiflu is proving to be a wonder drug in treating Parvovirus, and it is not that expensive. Maybe it would help the remaining two? Your vet may not have tried it, so he may be reluctant, but we are having good success with it at our clinic. We have not lost a pup to parvo in a really long time (close to a year). __________________