New Doggie!!!

BklynCwgrl · 08-09-2008, 10:10 PM

Got him at a rescue...He is 9 months old and came with the name Sammy. Not sure if I like that name or not. What do you all think?

We got a young male because we already have a male and two female dogs. I thought Axle (the 3 year old male St. Bernard cross that we already have) would be easy on the puppy cause he himself is such a goofball. But he's very jealous and pitching fits. He's dogging Sammy's ever step.

Mikki, out 3 year old female mutt is okay so far...and our old female dog just sniffed him and went about her business.

I know things will settle down in a few days...but these first few days are gonna be tough!!!

Also...he is TERRIFIED of the horses. LOL Apparently he's never seen one, cause he took one look and FLED!!!!

bitgirl_95 · 08-09-2008, 10:26 PM

i like the name patches

kehlyrsmom · 08-09-2008, 11:18 PM

Congrats he is cute! We have a female that just turned a year last week, she was also a rescue.

He looks like a George to me.

BklynCwgrl · 08-10-2008, 09:18 AM

Well...I purposely didn't get a little baby puppy cause I didnt want to have to house train and have to stay up nights with him/her. But last night we were up ALLLLLL night.

Firstly Axle's jealousy did not abate. I know ... it's just the first night. Whenever Sammy came in the house and got anywhere near Dennis...Axle pitched a fit. So...we tried to separate them. Blocked off half the house for each of them...and Dennis stayed with Axle and I stayed with Sammy. Well...a) Sammy kept jumping on the bed on top of me...not pleasent...or b) Sammy pushed right through the little baby gate we had up...that worked for all our other dogs...but apparently NOT SAMMY.

So then we put Axle outside and kept Sammy inside...Axle barked at the door the whole time and Sammy wouldn't settle down. So then we let Axle in and put Sammy out...and Sammy wedged his way through our deck fence (slats of wood) and barged in through the deck door! LOL Then we locked the deck door and Sammy stood there and barked.

Then I told Dennis that since he's the problem...just throw all the dogs outside and let them work it out. Which might have worked except Axle the big baby hates the wind...so he stood by the door and barked anyway...and this, by the way, is right under my bedroom window, so I could look out and see what was going on.

Mel, my very old dog, now sleeps on a pillow right under the bedroom window, which is right by the door. Then Sammy was right in front of her at the door. So Mel starts barking at Sammy. Then Axle comes behind Sammy, who is trying to make himeslf invisible, and also starts barking. So we have two dogs barking at Sammy right under my bedroom window!!!

Well in various ways, this went on alllll night!!! Finally let Axle in, and Axle stood over Dennis, who was sleeping in the bed, and guarded him. But breathed hard LOL. So there's Axle, in the bedroom breathing hard, and Sammy outside my bedroom window barking to get in...this was my night.

Finally at about 5:00 Dennis went out to feed the horses...and I got about an hour's sleep.

The only one who is unphased by the whole thing is Mikki...the 3 year old female!!! She doesn't really care.

Anyone got any ideas? Or do we think time will heal all this.

Oh and by the way...Sammy is no slouch either. I thought he would be subservient...which he is for the most part...never picks a fight...but when one of us is around and Axle starts yapping at him...he yaps right back!!! I think both Axle and Sammy know we won't let anything happen so they go out worse when we are around.

Heeeelpppp!!!

pasomystic · 08-10-2008, 11:27 AM

You would have been much better off with a pup. Reason being Axle is just coming into his own--the adult male in the pack of dogs and the guardian of all. Doesn't matter if he has not really shown that until now--is his gender and his age that is coming into play. Bringing another adult male into the mix is sort of like what happens when an young adult male tries to join a small pack in the wild. If he is not completely subservient to the male leader, he will be run off. Axle can't run Sammy off, but he would certainly love to!

This may settle, or you may have this issue for life--is an individual thing. One thing you must do is show them both you are tired of the barking--have them lie down and shut up. Show Sammy that Axle is top dog by giving Axle more positive attention when they are in the same area.
Keep them separate when you are not around - or you could have a big vet bill or worse. Even the most laid back breeds do not allow TWO top males. By the way, the younger female is acting normally for the situation--to her, one male will win out, and it is none of her business who,

LuvMyMares · 08-10-2008, 11:37 AM

I like the name Sammy. As far as the "other issues," you're just gonna have to let them work their issues out on their own. Give them a week or so, you'll be surprised. Congrats on such a cute new addition to your family!!

BklynCwgrl · 08-10-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pasomystic

You would have been much better off with a pup. Reason being Axle is just coming into his own--the adult male in the pack of dogs and the guardian of all. Doesn't matter if he has not really shown that until now--is his gender and his age that is coming into play. Bringing another adult male into the mix is sort of like what happens when an young adult male tries to join a small pack in the wild. If he is not completely subservient to the male leader, he will be run off. Axle can't run Sammy off, but he would certainly love to!

This may settle, or you may have this issue for life--is an individual thing. One thing you must do is show them both you are tired of the barking--have them lie down and shut up. Show Sammy that Axle is top dog by giving Axle more positive attention when they are in the same area.
Keep them separate when you are not around - or you could have a big vet bill or worse. Even the most laid back breeds do not allow TWO top males. By the way, the younger female is acting normally for the situation--to her, one male will win out, and it is none of her business who,

I thought 9 months WAS a puppy!

We have 4.5 acres...so when they are outside they are not on top of eachother. They can get far away. And honestly...when Dennis isn't around there is little problem. Axle is just very very protective of Dennis. So...I told Dennis to ignore them and walk away. When I was out with them before...Sammy stayed with me...and Mikki tried to play with him, but he bowled her over!!!...and Axle kinda just followed along behind. At one point I had them both sort of near eachother...and I went over to pet Axle. No problems.

But yes...this whole barking thing is getting on my nerves. I'm gonna go dig up my water spritzer.

What do you think about Dennis allowing Axle in the house? He's usually in the house...but at the moment we can't have both of them in. So D lets Axle in and we haven't allowed Sammy in.

rm185western · 08-10-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BklynCwgrl

I thought 9 months WAS a puppy!

We have 4.5 acres...so when they are outside they are not on top of each other. They can get far away. And honestly...when Dennis isn't around there is little problem. Axle is just very very protective of Dennis. So...I told Dennis to ignore them and walk away. When I was out with them before...Sammy stayed with me...and Mikki tried to play with him, but he bowled her over!!!...and Axle kinda just followed along behind. At one point I had them both sort of near eachother...and I went over to pet Axle. No problems.

But yes...this whole barking thing is getting on my nerves. I'm gonna go dig up my water spritzer.

What do you think about Dennis allowing Axle in the house? He's usually in the house...but at the moment we can't have both of them in. So D lets Axle in and we haven't allowed Sammy in.

He may be a puppy at 9 months but WOW

what a big puppy

Now while I agree basically with what Pasomystic was saying about pack dynamics, I also believe that you can 'override' Axle as pack leader, You and Dennis need to be the pack leaders, and everyone else is subservient to you. This puts the dogs all at a lower level.

On that thought process if Dennis wants to have Axle in the house, as pack leader that's his choice and Sammy will have to learn to cope with it. I'd work on making sure that everyone respects the human pack leaders.

In the meantime I've had friends who had great results with the cheap 'bark collars' the ones that are noise activated and emit a spray of something when the dog barks.

Good luck, I'm sure that they'll all settle down soon, it's early days yet

BklynCwgrl · 08-10-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rm185western

He may be a puppy at 9 months but WOW

what a big puppy

Now while I agree basically with what Pasomystic was saying about pack dynamics, I also believe that you can 'override' Axle as pack leader, You and Dennis need to be the pack leaders, and everyone else is subservient to you. This puts the dogs all at a lower level.

On that thought process if Dennis wants to have Axle in the house, as pack leader that's his choice and Sammy will have to learn to cope with it. I'd work on making sure that everyone respects the human pack leaders.

In the meantime I've had friends who had great results with the cheap 'bark collars' the ones that are noise activated and emit a spray of something when the dog barks.

Good luck, I'm sure that they'll all settle down soon, it's early days yet

That was actually my thoughts also...that WE are the pack leaders, not any of them. The only dog that I defend is my old dog...when anyone bothers her, she gets my full support. Cause she's too old to take care of herself anymore. I don't encourage any of the others...but I understand that they have to establish their own pecking order.

Normally none of them are barkers (except Axle when he wants to come in, and I told Dennis to STOP letting him in when he barks...but to spray him with water!!!) and I'm hoping that it's just the newness of it all. I'm going to show Sammy from scratch that I won't tolerate that behavior.

Saelym · 08-10-2008, 01:51 PM

What a handsome, big boy!

kellidahorsegirl · 08-10-2008, 04:53 PM

I LOVE HIM!!!!! Sooooo cute! And the barking is cracking me up! What naughty lil turds they are hahahha Hopefully they'll stop soon though cuz ummmm thats annoying!

Sammy is gonna be HUGE when he's all grown up. Maybe you can use him for pony rides???

BklynCwgrl · 08-10-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kellidahorsegirl

I LOVE HIM!!!!! Sooooo cute! And the barking is cracking me up! What naughty lil turds they are hahahha Hopefully they'll stop soon though cuz ummmm thats annoying!

Sammy is gonna be HUGE when he's all grown up. Maybe you can use him for pony rides???

I think I'll hook him and Axle up to a cart! LOL Or maybe drag him behind a cart! LOL

kellidahorsegirl · 08-10-2008, 04:57 PM

^do you have experience in that? Cuz if you don't, then you shouldn't do it

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

BklynCwgrl · 08-10-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kellidahorsegirl

^do you have experience in that? Cuz if you don't, then you shouldn't do it

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

No...but I know someone who does...LOL so no worries.

BabyMay · 08-10-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pasomystic

You would have been much better off with a pup. Reason being Axle is just coming into his own--the adult male in the pack of dogs and the guardian of all. Doesn't matter if he has not really shown that until now--is his gender and his age that is coming into play. Bringing another adult male into the mix is sort of like what happens when an young adult male tries to join a small pack in the wild. If he is not completely subservient to the male leader, he will be run off. Axle can't run Sammy off, but he would certainly love to!

This may settle, or you may have this issue for life--is an individual thing. One thing you must do is show them both you are tired of the barking--have them lie down and shut up. Show Sammy that Axle is top dog by giving Axle more positive attention when they are in the same area.
Keep them separate when you are not around - or you could have a big vet bill or worse. Even the most laid back breeds do not allow TWO top males. By the way, the younger female is acting normally for the situation--to her, one male will win out, and it is none of her business who,

Very good advice.

WSArabians · 08-10-2008, 09:35 PM

He is huge!
Congrats on the new boy.

HorseMomToSage · 08-10-2008, 09:45 PM

Congratulations on your handsome boy! As a fellow big dog owner (Great Danes) I empathize, we just adopted a 1 year old boy and are not getting much sleep either

PasoMystic has some very good advice. I hope everything works out for you. Pack dynamics can be complicated.

BklynCwgrl · 08-11-2008, 07:59 AM

Well at least we all got some sleep last night. Axle slept inside and Sammy slept outside...right by the front door and under my bedroom window. He was sleeping right next to our old dog, Mel. It was kinda cute.

Poor old Mel, though. In her younger days, she ruled the roost. Now everyone else does.

Maybe today Sammy and Axle will get along better. I'll take some pictures.

tuffsmom · 08-11-2008, 08:05 AM

He's a very cute boy.

DDD · 08-11-2008, 08:19 AM

Robin, good gawd girl............. ANOTHER MAMMOTH? How much dog food do you go through in a week?
And 9 months IS a puppy, but the size of him. Holy Smokes.
Waiting for those pics.
Congrats on your new boy. They should settle in with each other sooner or later. It can't be any different when throwing new horses together right?
Look at the bright side, they aren't going at each others throats are they?

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