FYI....ivermectin & dogs

jackiev · 11-17-2007, 06:31 PM

Has anyone ever given their animals (aside from horses) Ivermectin?

Well, I gave my 2 dogs less than a 1/2 cc of Ivermectin each this morning, and I just left the "pet emergency" because they went blind. The vet said that they should get their sight back, but I had to leave them there so they could be flushed with fluids (I.V.)and hopefully they will be alright in the morning.
They're both Chihuahua's. One is 5.5 lbs and the other 8.5 lbs.
I really feel stupid that I did that. I thought they were going to die!! But I didn't give them a leathal dose. Thank God!! I will stick to "DOG" wormers from now on!! What a hard lesson to learn!!

calicocalgirl · 11-17-2007, 06:39 PM

My vet did say that giving your dog Ivermectin labeled for horses can be lethal. He said make sure Emmie doesnt get a hold of the syringes.
I know we get dog breeders in all the time that use horse wormers on their dogs. I personally (even with safeguard) feel safer using a dog wormer.

BarnBum · 11-17-2007, 06:43 PM

Yes, I have heard of bad side effects of horse wormers on dogs. Esp. the "merle" gened breeds such as Austrailian Shepherds (any breed with merel markings) Someone in my area paste wormed his miniature horses and at the same time had mini aussie puppies running around. He lost them all after becomeing neurologically incompatable- seizing continuous,abnormal breathing, unable to walk, blindness. All either died or were euthanized. The only thing they could think of was the wormer- they follwed him around the pasture (curious pups) and they said probly dropped a little bit of the ivermectin paste on the ground and the pups ate it. The only safe wormer is Strongid C. I have 2 Austraillian Shephards and the only wormer my horses get is daily strongid C pellets.

calicocalgirl · 11-17-2007, 06:49 PM

Barnbum.. good to know on the Aussies since I have 2 and one is a blue merle. Like I said I am afraid to use the horse dewormer anyway but didnt realize the Aussies were more sensitive to it.

jackiev · 11-17-2007, 07:07 PM

Wanted to post so others would be aware!

cook1745 · 11-17-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackiev

Has anyone ever given their animals (aside from horses) Ivermectin?

Well, I gave my 2 dogs less than a 1/2 cc of Ivermectin each this morning, and I just left the "pet emergency" because they went blind. The vet said that they should get their sight back, but I had to leave them there so they could be flushed with fluids (I.V.)and hopefully they will be alright in the morning.
They're both Chihuahua's. One is 5.5 lbs and the other 8.5 lbs.
I really feel stupid that I did that. I thought they were going to die!! But I didn't give them a leathal dose. Thank God!! I will stick to "DOG" wormers from now on!! What a hard lesson to learn!!

That is alot of wormer.

The normal dog dose is .01 cc per 10 orally. A 1/2 cc is the dose for a 50lb dog. And NEVER give this to any collie bred border or regular collie it is fatal.

Thank god it didn't kill them.

TanyaV28 · 11-17-2007, 07:25 PM

OMG I am so sorry. My vet just gave my GSD female Ivermectin but I thought it was for dogs. My dog is okay and seems to be able to see. I think she gave the dog Ivermectin for dogs. That must have scared you to death. Keep us posted on how they are doing.

AlbertaGirl · 11-17-2007, 07:33 PM

I'm sorry to hear this, but thank you for posting it. I've always wondered about trying horse wormer, or specifically ivermectin on my dogs, but won't now

. I'm not even sure what the stuff my vet gave me last time was, but she drew up a syringe of it to give orally. Thanks for the reminder that they're due for it again, and I hope yours will be okay!

TxHorseMom · 11-17-2007, 07:44 PM

I've given my dogs the cattle Ivermectin for years and years! Never had any problems. I've never used the horse one though. The dose you gave was quite high. As Cook posted the dose you gave was for a 50 lb dog. I'm curious, who gave you the dosage for your dog? I think I would be nervous giving that small of a dog a dose. Too easy to overdose IMO. Thank goodness she is ok.

BarnBum · 11-17-2007, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calicocalgirl

Barnbum.. good to know on the Aussies since I have 2 and one is a blue merle. Like I said I am afraid to use the horse dewormer anyway but didnt realize the Aussies were more sensitive to it.

Glad I could pass on some helpful information. ANY breed, Austrailian Shepherd for example. Border Collies, Cattle Dogs.....etc. It doesn't have to be a "merle" marked dog. I have a tri -colored Aussie and a blue merle Aussie............either one would have a fatal reaction. Horse Ivermection is just BAD point blank (for dogs). Even the horses poop- the dogs can still get effects from it when the horse passes it, if you have a horse poop eating dog !! The guy who lost his mini aussies that I mentioned above said that the horses poop is also "contageous" (he was told by the vet).

The only wormer in my barn is daily Strongid C !! I love my 2 aussies !!!

KJUN · 11-17-2007, 08:33 PM

By a vet my female boxer and my sons male boxer was given Ivermectin for demodectic (sp) mange but it is strongly supervised by the vet and it was liquid and for cows. My 5 pound yorkie got ahold of the bottle and ate some of it and he went blind and was very sick for a few days It is only given according to their weight and YES it can Kill a dog

Good Luck

KJUN

roberts617 · 11-17-2007, 08:48 PM

Proper dosage is important.

Monthly heartguard for heartworms is Ivermectin. It is safe for Collie breeds, but it is properly dosed.

Here is a link about the reason Collie breeds are sensitive. http://www.mwcr.org/be_aware.htm

I hope your chihuahuas are okay.

jackiev · 11-17-2007, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJUN

By a vet my female boxer and my sons male boxer was given Ivermectin for demodectic (sp) mange but it is strongly supervised by the vet and it was liquid and for cows. My 5 pound yorkie got ahold of the bottle and ate some of it and he went blind and was very sick for a few days It is only given according to their weight and YES it can Kill a dog

Good Luck

KJUN

Did your dog re-gain his sight??? That's what I'm praying about right now. I would ask that any praying people out there to please pray that their sight would be restored!!
I just called the vets office and they said there is no change yet. I will call again in the morning. I don't know what I'll do if they stay blind. I feel soooo terrible!!!!

calicocalgirl · 11-17-2007, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarnBum

Glad I could pass on some helpful information. ANY breed, Austrailian Shepherd for example. Border Collies, Cattle Dogs.....etc. It doesn't have to be a "merle" marked dog. I have a tri -colored Aussie and a blue merle Aussie............either one would have a fatal reaction. Horse Ivermection is just BAD point blank (for dogs). Even the horses poop- the dogs can still get effects from it when the horse passes it, if you have a horse poop eating dog !! The guy who lost his mini aussies that I mentioned above said that the horses poop is also "contageous" (he was told by the vet).

The only wormer in my barn is daily Strongid C !! I love my 2 aussies !!!

OMG! my aussies eat poop!! gonna remember this! it's mostly the black tri that is the poop eater and they dont usually eat much cause they get caught and runnnnn.... I will have to watch this!

barnmom · 11-17-2007, 10:08 PM

I was watching one of those court shows and one of the cases was involving a chi-chi that died from ivermectrin, I never realized it was lethal, but I let the vet do the worming so I hope it would be safe, I did not know that was what they use!

I hope your buddies ok!

KitKat · 11-17-2007, 11:26 PM

You learn something new every day! I have two Border Collies, and have never heard of this before. I give them the wormer that the vet gives me and have never had an issue, TG. I'll remember to ask her about this next time I'm in though. Mind you, I've never given them any horse wormer either, but they are poop mongers......

I hope your pups are feeling better soon, that must be very scary for you

joustinggirl · 11-18-2007, 05:56 AM

We use it alot and with proper dosing it is not a problem. It is made to kill parasites, so in high enough doses it can kill anything.

jackiev · 11-18-2007, 05:57 AM

Well, I called the vet this morning and they're the same.

Their pupils are still extremely dialated. But they didn't have seizures or anything through the night. So they're still blind.
I'm just going to keep praying.
I will keep you posted.

I know KJUN said that her yorkie went blind because of getting into ivermectin, or if anyone else has had this happen, please PM me or reply on here about what happened. How long did they stay blind? Will they get better?
I'm a mess over this!!!
I am trusting God for their healing!! Just keep PRAYING!!

jackiev · 11-18-2007, 07:23 AM

Just got off the phone with the actual vet. Spoke with her. My one dog (Loopy, the bigger of the 2) is showing signs of improvement. Ginger is the same. Unfortunately there is no anti-dote they can give to reverse this right away. It's a time thing. I went on line to research this and found that it can take up to 2-4 weeks for their sight to return. In some cases it doesn't return. The vet assured me that a dog can live a good life if blind. But I'm not going there yet. I'm praying that won't be the case.
This is going to be a huge expense.......I'm thinking I may have to sell one of my horses to pay the vet bill

My mind is a whirl wind!!!
I knew I should have gone to vet school

I will keep updating........

Touche · 11-18-2007, 07:39 AM

JackieV, hope your dogs will be OK.

I have used Ivermectin(horse) on my dogs before and they never had a reaction. One is a Sheltie too.

I was careful though with dosing them. One thing I cannot stop is these dogs eating horse manure.

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11-17-2007, 06:31 PM
jackiev Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ellenton Florida Posts: 118	FYI....ivermectin & dogs Has anyone ever given their animals (aside from horses) Ivermectin? Well, I gave my 2 dogs less than a 1/2 cc of Ivermectin each this morning, and I just left the "pet emergency" because they went blind. The vet said that they should get their sight back, but I had to leave them there so they could be flushed with fluids (I.V.)and hopefully they will be alright in the morning. They're both Chihuahua's. One is 5.5 lbs and the other 8.5 lbs. I really feel stupid that I did that. I thought they were going to die!! But I didn't give them a leathal dose. Thank God!! I will stick to "DOG" wormers from now on!! What a hard lesson to learn!!

11-17-2007, 06:39 PM
calicocalgirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belleville, Pa Posts: 3,134	My vet did say that giving your dog Ivermectin labeled for horses can be lethal. He said make sure Emmie doesnt get a hold of the syringes. I know we get dog breeders in all the time that use horse wormers on their dogs. I personally (even with safeguard) feel safer using a dog wormer.

11-17-2007, 06:43 PM
BarnBum Greenbroke Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 3,872	Yes, I have heard of bad side effects of horse wormers on dogs. Esp. the "merle" gened breeds such as Austrailian Shepherds (any breed with merel markings) Someone in my area paste wormed his miniature horses and at the same time had mini aussie puppies running around. He lost them all after becomeing neurologically incompatable- seizing continuous,abnormal breathing, unable to walk, blindness. All either died or were euthanized. The only thing they could think of was the wormer- they follwed him around the pasture (curious pups) and they said probly dropped a little bit of the ivermectin paste on the ground and the pups ate it. The only safe wormer is Strongid C. I have 2 Austraillian Shephards and the only wormer my horses get is daily strongid C pellets.

11-17-2007, 06:49 PM
calicocalgirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belleville, Pa Posts: 3,134	Barnbum.. good to know on the Aussies since I have 2 and one is a blue merle. Like I said I am afraid to use the horse dewormer anyway but didnt realize the Aussies were more sensitive to it.

11-17-2007, 07:07 PM
jackiev Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ellenton Florida Posts: 118	Wanted to post so others would be aware!

11-17-2007, 07:25 PM
TanyaV28 Started Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,119	OMG I am so sorry. My vet just gave my GSD female Ivermectin but I thought it was for dogs. My dog is okay and seems to be able to see. I think she gave the dog Ivermectin for dogs. That must have scared you to death. Keep us posted on how they are doing. __________________ Im movin on like a sinners prayer

11-17-2007, 07:33 PM
AlbertaGirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alberta Posts: 3,432	I'm sorry to hear this, but thank you for posting it. I've always wondered about trying horse wormer, or specifically ivermectin on my dogs, but won't now . I'm not even sure what the stuff my vet gave me last time was, but she drew up a syringe of it to give orally. Thanks for the reminder that they're due for it again, and I hope yours will be okay! __________________ Some people say horses don't have a sense of humor... they obviously haven't met mine yet ;o)

11-17-2007, 07:44 PM
TxHorseMom Greenbroke Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 3,034	I've given my dogs the cattle Ivermectin for years and years! Never had any problems. I've never used the horse one though. The dose you gave was quite high. As Cook posted the dose you gave was for a 50 lb dog. I'm curious, who gave you the dosage for your dog? I think I would be nervous giving that small of a dog a dose. Too easy to overdose IMO. Thank goodness she is ok.

11-17-2007, 08:33 PM
KJUN Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: US ARMY...Fort Campbell Kentucky Posts: 866	By a vet my female boxer and my sons male boxer was given Ivermectin for demodectic (sp) mange but it is strongly supervised by the vet and it was liquid and for cows. My 5 pound yorkie got ahold of the bottle and ate some of it and he went blind and was very sick for a few days It is only given according to their weight and YES it can Kill a dog Good Luck KJUN __________________ **I am very Proud of My Soldiers...My Husband and My Son.....Good Job Guys...I love you...** Bryan Is home now from Iraq Thank Goodness Mom Loves you!!! Hubby Deploys Real Soon (Afghanstan)

11-17-2007, 08:48 PM
roberts617 Kid Safe Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 5,153	Proper dosage is important. Monthly heartguard for heartworms is Ivermectin. It is safe for Collie breeds, but it is properly dosed. Here is a link about the reason Collie breeds are sensitive. http://www.mwcr.org/be_aware.htm I hope your chihuahuas are okay. __________________ He who never made a mistake never made a discovery! Samuel Smiles

11-17-2007, 10:08 PM
barnmom Coming two Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: northeast pennsylvania Posts: 1,876	I was watching one of those court shows and one of the cases was involving a chi-chi that died from ivermectrin, I never realized it was lethal, but I let the vet do the worming so I hope it would be safe, I did not know that was what they use! I hope your buddies ok! __________________ Remember to thank the horses for the happiness and joy we experience through them! It's nice to be important, but more important to be nice!

11-17-2007, 11:26 PM
KitKat Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Okotoks, AB Posts: 1,188	You learn something new every day! I have two Border Collies, and have never heard of this before. I give them the wormer that the vet gives me and have never had an issue, TG. I'll remember to ask her about this next time I'm in though. Mind you, I've never given them any horse wormer either, but they are poop mongers...... I hope your pups are feeling better soon, that must be very scary for you

11-18-2007, 05:56 AM
joustinggirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boones Mill, Virgina Posts: 3,395	We use it alot and with proper dosing it is not a problem. It is made to kill parasites, so in high enough doses it can kill anything. __________________ Pink Tiger says \'Grrrrrr\'

11-18-2007, 05:57 AM
jackiev Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ellenton Florida Posts: 118	FYI.....ivermectin & dogs Well, I called the vet this morning and they're the same. Their pupils are still extremely dialated. But they didn't have seizures or anything through the night. So they're still blind. I'm just going to keep praying. I will keep you posted. I know KJUN said that her yorkie went blind because of getting into ivermectin, or if anyone else has had this happen, please PM me or reply on here about what happened. How long did they stay blind? Will they get better? I'm a mess over this!!! I am trusting God for their healing!! Just keep PRAYING!!

11-18-2007, 07:23 AM
jackiev Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ellenton Florida Posts: 118	FYI.....ivermectin & dogs Just got off the phone with the actual vet. Spoke with her. My one dog (Loopy, the bigger of the 2) is showing signs of improvement. Ginger is the same. Unfortunately there is no anti-dote they can give to reverse this right away. It's a time thing. I went on line to research this and found that it can take up to 2-4 weeks for their sight to return. In some cases it doesn't return. The vet assured me that a dog can live a good life if blind. But I'm not going there yet. I'm praying that won't be the case. This is going to be a huge expense.......I'm thinking I may have to sell one of my horses to pay the vet bill My mind is a whirl wind!!! I knew I should have gone to vet school I will keep updating........

11-18-2007, 07:39 AM
Touche Coming two Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,902	JackieV, hope your dogs will be OK. I have used Ivermectin(horse) on my dogs before and they never had a reaction. One is a Sheltie too. I was careful though with dosing them. One thing I cannot stop is these dogs eating horse manure. __________________ Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. W.C.Fields