pending Buckskin mare

roguemare · 08-12-2008, 02:47 PM

Breed: unregistered, can be registered with APHA as breeding stock, but we are going to register her with ABRA and IBHA (Buckskin registries)
Age: 6
Gender: mare, never bred
Height: 14 hands
Current job: pasture ornament, keeping up with her ground work...
Future uses: am putting her up for sale, if she doesn't sell will send her for refresher...maybe even put her in some open shows....but she does need to be sold no matter what...

Additional info: 30 days professional training in 2005, not ridden since

I know some of you have seen these pics and video before, but its all I have right now...

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/inde...mall_font=1&l=

pvf · 08-20-2008, 02:56 PM

How to Critique Horses - read this if you want to comment

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Here are the rules about how to critique horses in the conformation clinic. Please check back here as this forum progresses since we will be making updates as we go along.

1. Be honest but friendly.
All horses have flaws -- you can certainly point them out. BUT, do not say things in a way that could be construed as rude or overly negative.
Keep all comments focused on the horse. Do not say anything critical about the owner.

2. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Just like how all horses have flaws, they all have good points. If you have something negative to say, be sure to also include a positive comment.
Keep things friendly -- give your comments the way you would if a good friend asked you for your opinion.

3. If you don't have anything conformation-related to say, please PM the horse's owner instead of replying in here.
People posting in this area are looking for conformation-related responses. Even if you're not well versed in conformation, please don't be shy about trying to critique the horse or ask questions about his/her conformation. But, since this is the conformation clinic, please make sure your response does pertain to conformation! Comments such as "he sure is pretty!" should be made via PM if you aren't also commenting on the horse's conformation.

4. People WILL say things you disagree with.
Keep your comments focused on your own ideas, and not reactions to other people's posts.
If you think you'll be bothered by seeing comments that you think are "wrong" - then don't visit this forum!!!
It is not your job to convince everyone that your opinion is correct. Say what you believe and let others come to their own conclusions.

If people have trouble following these rules, we will make critiquing by invitation only.

For help understanding conformation better check out these to threads:
Horse Conformations for Dummies- P.1
Conformation for Dummies P.2

cansncattle · 08-20-2008, 03:15 PM

i cant give a critique because I am at work and have a WIDE monitor which really makes everything look wide and long. But she is a red dun I beleive and her butt looks HUGE HUGE on my monitor. (I like big butts). I would market her as a trail/pleasure horse as she is too old for the serious reiners to look at.. Also, if you could get her apha b/s papers you will be able to ask much more for her. Shes cute from waht I can see on my distorted monitor..lol

roguemare · 08-20-2008, 09:24 PM

yes...she is a red dun...and your monitor is not making her butt look huge, it is huuuge!!

nrhareiner · 08-20-2008, 09:55 PM

She just looks from those pictures to be too heavy in the front to slide. Even fitted that will not change. Look at a lot of reiners. They are not that massive in front.

Like I said I like her. She looks nicely balanced her neck and head set in the loping picture make a nice picture that is why I think she would be nice in Horsemanship. She has a nice slow trot although she needs to drive more under herself but that will come as she gets more fit and worked.

I am only saying this as it will help you market her as you said you are looking to sell her.

Heidi

edited by mod

roguemare · 08-21-2008, 12:09 PM

anyone else?

HighHorse · 08-21-2008, 01:48 PM

Very, very nice mare. I really like her head, butt and legs. She has such a pretty feminine face. I agree that she should be fit up and sold as a halter horse.

pvf · 08-21-2008, 02:05 PM

I have edited and removed some of your posts. All comments must be on conformation anything about disapline ect needs to be done so by PM's. Thanks

Karen Cole · 08-21-2008, 02:33 PM

Overall I think she is a cute mare. I agree registering her would improve her value dramatically. I think her neck is thick although that doesn't bother me to much , she does have a very nice head. She is the perfect size for a child or small adult but I'd like to see more bone and bigger feet.

Karen

cansncattle · 08-21-2008, 03:12 PM

AGAIN, I am at work. lol.. BUT, I watched the video. I LOVE her head carriage and she seems to be nice and quiet and calm. Not a confo expert, but the way she carries her head tells me her neck is set good into her body (or at least the way I like it) She seems to have good size bone on her leg, again, distorted monitor, so really should look at her at home. LOVE her huge eye! yea, I would probably consider her if I was in the market as I cant see any serious confo flaws, but then again, I am no expert, I just look at the overall picture of the horse and find it hard to find specific flaws.

nrhareiner · 08-21-2008, 03:25 PM

I am not sure why we can not mentions a disapline as she is asking about her as a reining prospect and since function follow form and she is trying sell her it would help if not only for her but others could see what others see in way of form to funtions in differnt disaplines.

Heidi

pvf · 08-21-2008, 05:51 PM

Conformation thread is only for conformation. Its in the rules.. If someone has a horse for sale and they want to know what it might be good at they can post that in the advice for buying and selling.

If the horse isn't for sale there are other places for them kind of questions to get asked.

Specific answers about conformation are allowed to stay. Thats why only some of the peoples comments got sniped.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to pm me.

The OP would like info on the conformation of her horse example -straight legs, toes out, butt high ect are all appropriate replies.

Thanks

Freedomnchrist · 08-21-2008, 11:04 PM

1. Beautiful head...and I do mean a doll baby face!

2. She does seem a little butt high...but not by much and it may be the pictures.

3. Beautiful color and overall looks.

I am having a hard time actually getting past how large she is. (Not meaning that in a bad way.)

Not sure if it is that she is tubby...or just a brick house!

And the pictures are kind of hard to get a good look at her.

I have to squint my eyes to see good...and turn my head funny ways.

To me her front legs seem awful short.

But again...I think it is the picture.

roguemare · 08-24-2008, 10:40 AM

Anyone else? please?

snickers · 08-24-2008, 11:43 AM

She has a nice head and a great rump.
Looks to have good legs under her, a little butt high and looks to be under herself in the front.
Neck looks a tad short for that big ole body.

She is a nice mare and if I may suggest, getting her regular registration papers will make a bigger difference than with the ABRA or the IBHA.
APHA is having shows for the solid paint bred and her color is an added plus.
So, spring for regular registry papers.
If I were looking, and into showing, if she didnt have regular registry papers, I would pass her by.

She should do well in halter and cow work.

08-12-2008, 02:47 PM
roguemare Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 477	pending Buckskin mare Breed: unregistered, can be registered with APHA as breeding stock, but we are going to register her with ABRA and IBHA (Buckskin registries) Age: 6 Gender: mare, never bred Height: 14 hands Current job: pasture ornament, keeping up with her ground work... Future uses: am putting her up for sale, if she doesn't sell will send her for refresher...maybe even put her in some open shows....but she does need to be sold no matter what... Additional info: 30 days professional training in 2005, not ridden since I know some of you have seen these pics and video before, but its all I have right now... http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/inde...mall_font=1&l= __________________ "Saving a horse may not change the world, but it will change the world for one horse." Melanie Bowles, founder of Proud Spirit Horse Sanctuary Last edited by roguemare : 08-21-2008 at 03:46 PM. Reason: word change

08-20-2008, 02:56 PM
pvf Regional Forums Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,441	How to Critique Horses - read this if you want to comment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the rules about how to critique horses in the conformation clinic. Please check back here as this forum progresses since we will be making updates as we go along. 1. Be honest but friendly. All horses have flaws -- you can certainly point them out. BUT, do not say things in a way that could be construed as rude or overly negative. Keep all comments focused on the horse. Do not say anything critical about the owner. 2. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Just like how all horses have flaws, they all have good points. If you have something negative to say, be sure to also include a positive comment. Keep things friendly -- give your comments the way you would if a good friend asked you for your opinion. 3. If you don't have anything conformation-related to say, please PM the horse's owner instead of replying in here. People posting in this area are looking for conformation-related responses. Even if you're not well versed in conformation, please don't be shy about trying to critique the horse or ask questions about his/her conformation. But, since this is the conformation clinic, please make sure your response does pertain to conformation! Comments such as "he sure is pretty!" should be made via PM if you aren't also commenting on the horse's conformation. 4. People WILL say things you disagree with. Keep your comments focused on your own ideas, and not reactions to other people's posts. If you think you'll be bothered by seeing comments that you think are "wrong" - then don't visit this forum!!! It is not your job to convince everyone that your opinion is correct. Say what you believe and let others come to their own conclusions. If people have trouble following these rules, we will make critiquing by invitation only. For help understanding conformation better check out these to threads: Horse Conformations for Dummies- P.1 Conformation for Dummies P.2 __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

08-20-2008, 03:15 PM
cansncattle Halter broke Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: British Columbia Canada Posts: 122	i cant give a critique because I am at work and have a WIDE monitor which really makes everything look wide and long. But she is a red dun I beleive and her butt looks HUGE HUGE on my monitor. (I like big butts). I would market her as a trail/pleasure horse as she is too old for the serious reiners to look at.. Also, if you could get her apha b/s papers you will be able to ask much more for her. Shes cute from waht I can see on my distorted monitor..lol

08-20-2008, 09:24 PM
roguemare Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 477	yes...she is a red dun...and your monitor is not making her butt look huge, it is huuuge!! __________________ "Saving a horse may not change the world, but it will change the world for one horse." Melanie Bowles, founder of Proud Spirit Horse Sanctuary

08-20-2008, 09:55 PM
nrhareiner Yearling Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 740	She just looks from those pictures to be too heavy in the front to slide. Even fitted that will not change. Look at a lot of reiners. They are not that massive in front. Like I said I like her. She looks nicely balanced her neck and head set in the loping picture make a nice picture that is why I think she would be nice in Horsemanship. She has a nice slow trot although she needs to drive more under herself but that will come as she gets more fit and worked. I am only saying this as it will help you market her as you said you are looking to sell her. Heidi edited by mod __________________ Double Eagle Photography www.doubleeagleph.com Definision of Gun Control: Hiting what you aim at. Last edited by pvf : 08-21-2008 at 02:02 PM.

08-21-2008, 12:09 PM
roguemare Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 477	anyone else? __________________ "Saving a horse may not change the world, but it will change the world for one horse." Melanie Bowles, founder of Proud Spirit Horse Sanctuary

08-21-2008, 01:48 PM
HighHorse Started Join Date: May 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 2,907	Very, very nice mare. I really like her head, butt and legs. She has such a pretty feminine face. I agree that she should be fit up and sold as a halter horse. __________________ I played with a clouded leopard Last edited by HighHorse : 08-21-2008 at 02:26 PM.

08-21-2008, 02:05 PM
pvf Regional Forums Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,441	I have edited and removed some of your posts. All comments must be on conformation anything about disapline ect needs to be done so by PM's. Thanks __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

08-21-2008, 02:33 PM
Karen Cole Long Yearling Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,421	Overall I think she is a cute mare. I agree registering her would improve her value dramatically. I think her neck is thick although that doesn't bother me to much , she does have a very nice head. She is the perfect size for a child or small adult but I'd like to see more bone and bigger feet. Karen

08-21-2008, 03:12 PM
cansncattle Halter broke Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: British Columbia Canada Posts: 122	AGAIN, I am at work. lol.. BUT, I watched the video. I LOVE her head carriage and she seems to be nice and quiet and calm. Not a confo expert, but the way she carries her head tells me her neck is set good into her body (or at least the way I like it) She seems to have good size bone on her leg, again, distorted monitor, so really should look at her at home. LOVE her huge eye! yea, I would probably consider her if I was in the market as I cant see any serious confo flaws, but then again, I am no expert, I just look at the overall picture of the horse and find it hard to find specific flaws.

08-21-2008, 03:25 PM
nrhareiner Yearling Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 740	I am not sure why we can not mentions a disapline as she is asking about her as a reining prospect and since function follow form and she is trying sell her it would help if not only for her but others could see what others see in way of form to funtions in differnt disaplines. Heidi __________________ Double Eagle Photography www.doubleeagleph.com Definision of Gun Control: Hiting what you aim at.

08-21-2008, 05:51 PM
pvf Regional Forums Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,441	Conformation thread is only for conformation. Its in the rules.. If someone has a horse for sale and they want to know what it might be good at they can post that in the advice for buying and selling. If the horse isn't for sale there are other places for them kind of questions to get asked. Specific answers about conformation are allowed to stay. Thats why only some of the peoples comments got sniped. If anyone has any questions please feel free to pm me. The OP would like info on the conformation of her horse example -straight legs, toes out, butt high ect are all appropriate replies. Thanks __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

08-21-2008, 11:04 PM
Freedomnchrist Greenbroke Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,312	1. Beautiful head...and I do mean a doll baby face! 2. She does seem a little butt high...but not by much and it may be the pictures. 3. Beautiful color and overall looks. I am having a hard time actually getting past how large she is. (Not meaning that in a bad way.) Not sure if it is that she is tubby...or just a brick house! And the pictures are kind of hard to get a good look at her. I have to squint my eyes to see good...and turn my head funny ways. To me her front legs seem awful short. But again...I think it is the picture.

08-24-2008, 10:40 AM
roguemare Weanling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 477	Anyone else? please? __________________ "Saving a horse may not change the world, but it will change the world for one horse." Melanie Bowles, founder of Proud Spirit Horse Sanctuary

08-24-2008, 11:43 AM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 8,855	She has a nice head and a great rump. Looks to have good legs under her, a little butt high and looks to be under herself in the front. Neck looks a tad short for that big ole body. She is a nice mare and if I may suggest, getting her regular registration papers will make a bigger difference than with the ABRA or the IBHA. APHA is having shows for the solid paint bred and her color is an added plus. So, spring for regular registry papers. If I were looking, and into showing, if she didnt have regular registry papers, I would pass her by. She should do well in halter and cow work. __________________ " You cant fix stupid " Ron White Life is to short to argue with ignorant people.