11 year old arab

RenosGirl · 07-13-2008, 11:38 PM

Breed: polish arabian
Age: 12
Gender: gelding
Height: 14.3hh
Horse's current job and future intended uses: endruance races and a lesson horse
Additional Information:

breburtch · 07-14-2008, 03:03 PM

He appears to be slightly pigeon toed
he's cow hocked
ewe neck that doesn't seem to tie in overly great with his withers
short backed
plain boring head
and doesn't have very much slop to his shoulder it's not horrible but could be a little more sloped

He's a cute gelding though even though he's not got the most desirable conformation out there, and he's being used for something and is being well looked after which is all that matters.
As long as there being cared for and loved and being used for something and not reproducing then conformation doesn't really matter.
Alhtough not sure how he'd hold up for endurance riding with his conformation.
Guess it all depends on how much endurance he's being used for and how hard the rides are.
But looks like he'd be fine for lessons for the kids and hitting the trails

BarnBum · 07-14-2008, 03:20 PM

What sticks out for me is his pigeon toes and cow hocks. I am not sure if that is a good combination for endurance riding.

If he works for you and you love him, thats all that matters !

Cappysmom · 07-14-2008, 03:31 PM

I can't comment on confirmation but just want to say he looks real cute and he has a soft eye.

IULeslie · 07-14-2008, 03:35 PM

Yeah, he's a little cow-hocked, which leads to the pigeon toes in the back. I don't see much of anything else that would cause a problem, and I seriously doubt the little bit cow-hocked that he is would ever cause a problem. Otherwise he has nice clean legs and hooves. I don't think his body is overly short for a smaller bodied Arab. I also don't think he is ewe necked--he has a nice neck with a little bit of an arch, which is common for Arabs. I think the way his mane is laying makes his neck look like it ties in weird, but I don't think it really does. He doesn't have a typey Arab dished face, but he has a nice pleasant head and expression. I think overall he's a very pleasant looking gelding and should do fine for what you want to do with him.

RenosGirl · 07-14-2008, 11:43 PM

Well, just to let you all know, for endurance nothing stops/interferres with him doing them. He actually moves nicely, and is currently doing 50 milers with me and 25 with younger people and has never placed below 3rd. But thank you all for your input

WalliBoy · 07-14-2008, 11:45 PM

ewww....so pretty!

Gids_mama · 07-14-2008, 11:46 PM

this might sound dumb but im kinda ignorant to some terms.but what is ewe neck?

RenosGirl · 07-15-2008, 10:28 PM

what is a ewe neck?

Iwasbornonahorse · 07-15-2008, 11:20 PM

Ewe neck is when the neck ties in "upside down" in a manner of speaking. This horses neck "Bulges" on the bottom.

He's got a bit of ewe neck, a slight sway back, he's base narrow and camped under, pigeon toed and cow hocked and seems to have a very large head in proportion to his body.

His conformation is not very correct over all. But as long as he is gelded, that doesn't mean that he can't be a fantastic horse. Heck I had a horse as a child that was about as wrong as they come but she was great and I loved her. That is all that matters.

RenosGirl · 07-16-2008, 12:01 AM

I can kinda see his ewe neck...and now looking at him with everything everyone said...he is kinda funny looking lol but I still love my missmatching fellow

sweetwaterarabians · 07-16-2008, 07:46 AM

I think he's a cute gelding and not bad at all. These aren't the most flattering photos of him. I think he could stand up better and look much better than these picture show. He's standind under himself in the few picture.

I think he looks strong and athletic. Nice hip on him and I like his top line. I don't think his neck is ewe at all. He has the bump past his whithers but it looks like he has high whithers but that doesn't bother some people. Sure, he's not halter quality but he looks like he would be a nice riding horse. He does look like he toes in in the front a bit. Perhaps it is the way he is trimmed. It is very mild so I wouldn't worry about it.

He has a nice thick tail for a grey too.

HighHorse · 07-16-2008, 08:53 AM

Ditto to everyone else, and I'd like to add that if you squared him up a bit, you may get some more flattering shots of him. These photos make him look like he's standing on a teeny tiny platform, and that doesn't make any horse look correct.

He only looks to be slightly cow hocked to me. Its really not a big deal. As far as a ewe neck, there's certaninly worse. Plus, a ewe neck never stopped an endurance horse in the past

Have you talked to your farrier about his slight pidgeon toe? It may help.

shadow · 07-16-2008, 09:04 AM

I would be tickled to own him. Granted he isn't put together perfect, but a trusty mount like that is worth is weight in gold.

Iwasbornonahorse · 07-16-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow

I would be tickled to own him. Granted he isn't put together perfect, but a trusty mount like that is worth is weight in gold.

Very true

RenosGirl · 07-17-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HighHorse

He only looks to be slightly cow hocked to me. Its really not a big deal. As far as a ewe neck, there's certaninly worse. Plus, a ewe neck never stopped an endurance horse in the past

Have you talked to your farrier about his slight pidgeon toe? It may help.

um....I don't see pidgeon toe.....maybe a little on the white hoof but thats about it.

Also the reason why he is not standing square is because his buddies were not with him and he wanted nothing to do with standing, I'm lucky to even got those shots in.

arabiancowgirl · 07-17-2008, 01:19 AM

I don't think he has a ewe neck

If you turn his neck the other direction it still would be the same

ps
Also some arabians have what is called "swan necks" at least it's the term they use up here in Alaska

My filly has a "swan neck" and it is not a conformation default, does not effect her in any way

HighHorse · 07-17-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RenosGirl

um....I don't see pidgeon toe.....maybe a little on the white hoof but thats about it.

Also the reason why he is not standing square is because his buddies were not with him and he wanted nothing to do with standing, I'm lucky to even got those shots in.

Oh, no. I really don't see it either. I was just commenting on what others said. They saw it, and I was saying that maybe it wasn't there. Maybe it was just a farrier thing. No big deal. Please don't take it personally. Everything I said was on a positive note.

RenosGirl · 07-17-2008, 10:41 PM

lol this is the problem with talking on the internet you can never tell the tone of voice the person is writting in. I never took it as a bad thing, just trying to understand what people think.

HighHorse · 07-18-2008, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RenosGirl

lol this is the problem with talking on the internet you can never tell the tone of voice the person is writting in..

Agreed

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07-13-2008, 11:38 PM
RenosGirl Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 558	11 year old arab Breed: polish arabian Age: 12 Gender: gelding Height: 14.3hh Horse's current job and future intended uses: endruance races and a lesson horse Additional Information: __________________ Go and love your babies today, and everyday...you never know when it could be the last time.

07-14-2008, 03:03 PM
breburtch Coming two Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ennismore, Ontario Posts: 1,899	He appears to be slightly pigeon toed he's cow hocked ewe neck that doesn't seem to tie in overly great with his withers short backed plain boring head and doesn't have very much slop to his shoulder it's not horrible but could be a little more sloped He's a cute gelding though even though he's not got the most desirable conformation out there, and he's being used for something and is being well looked after which is all that matters. As long as there being cared for and loved and being used for something and not reproducing then conformation doesn't really matter. Alhtough not sure how he'd hold up for endurance riding with his conformation. Guess it all depends on how much endurance he's being used for and how hard the rides are. But looks like he'd be fine for lessons for the kids and hitting the trails Last edited by breburtch : 07-14-2008 at 03:30 PM.

07-14-2008, 03:20 PM
BarnBum Greenbroke Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 3,609	What sticks out for me is his pigeon toes and cow hocks. I am not sure if that is a good combination for endurance riding. If he works for you and you love him, thats all that matters ! __________________ Murphys Horse Law - A horse's misbehavior will be in direct proportion to the number of people who are watching !! Last edited by BarnBum : 07-14-2008 at 03:36 PM.

07-14-2008, 03:31 PM
Cappysmom Long Yearling Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgian Bay Ontario Posts: 1,326	I can't comment on confirmation but just want to say he looks real cute and he has a soft eye.

07-14-2008, 03:35 PM
IULeslie Newborn Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 43	Yeah, he's a little cow-hocked, which leads to the pigeon toes in the back. I don't see much of anything else that would cause a problem, and I seriously doubt the little bit cow-hocked that he is would ever cause a problem. Otherwise he has nice clean legs and hooves. I don't think his body is overly short for a smaller bodied Arab. I also don't think he is ewe necked--he has a nice neck with a little bit of an arch, which is common for Arabs. I think the way his mane is laying makes his neck look like it ties in weird, but I don't think it really does. He doesn't have a typey Arab dished face, but he has a nice pleasant head and expression. I think overall he's a very pleasant looking gelding and should do fine for what you want to do with him.

07-14-2008, 11:43 PM
RenosGirl Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 558	Well, just to let you all know, for endurance nothing stops/interferres with him doing them. He actually moves nicely, and is currently doing 50 milers with me and 25 with younger people and has never placed below 3rd. But thank you all for your input __________________ Go and love your babies today, and everyday...you never know when it could be the last time.

07-14-2008, 11:45 PM
WalliBoy Long Yearling Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Coral Springs, Florida Posts: 1,260	ewww....so pretty!

07-14-2008, 11:46 PM
Gids_mama Yearling Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ramsey, Indiana Posts: 671	ewe neck???? this might sound dumb but im kinda ignorant to some terms.but what is ewe neck?

07-15-2008, 10:28 PM
RenosGirl Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 558	what is a ewe neck? __________________ Go and love your babies today, and everyday...you never know when it could be the last time.

07-15-2008, 11:20 PM
Iwasbornonahorse Started Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: GB, WI Posts: 2,224	Ewe neck is when the neck ties in "upside down" in a manner of speaking. This horses neck "Bulges" on the bottom. He's got a bit of ewe neck, a slight sway back, he's base narrow and camped under, pigeon toed and cow hocked and seems to have a very large head in proportion to his body. His conformation is not very correct over all. But as long as he is gelded, that doesn't mean that he can't be a fantastic horse. Heck I had a horse as a child that was about as wrong as they come but she was great and I loved her. That is all that matters. __________________ The Midwest horse welfare foundation needs help! http://www.networkforgood.org/pca/Ba...BadgeId=112727

07-16-2008, 12:01 AM
RenosGirl Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 558	I can kinda see his ewe neck...and now looking at him with everything everyone said...he is kinda funny looking lol but I still love my missmatching fellow __________________ Go and love your babies today, and everyday...you never know when it could be the last time.

07-16-2008, 07:46 AM
sweetwaterarabians Weanling Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Waynesboro, TN Posts: 396	I think he's a cute gelding and not bad at all. These aren't the most flattering photos of him. I think he could stand up better and look much better than these picture show. He's standind under himself in the few picture. I think he looks strong and athletic. Nice hip on him and I like his top line. I don't think his neck is ewe at all. He has the bump past his whithers but it looks like he has high whithers but that doesn't bother some people. Sure, he's not halter quality but he looks like he would be a nice riding horse. He does look like he toes in in the front a bit. Perhaps it is the way he is trimmed. It is very mild so I wouldn't worry about it. He has a nice thick tail for a grey too. __________________ Sweetwater Arabians & Web Design

07-16-2008, 08:53 AM
HighHorse Started Join Date: May 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 2,907	Ditto to everyone else, and I'd like to add that if you squared him up a bit, you may get some more flattering shots of him. These photos make him look like he's standing on a teeny tiny platform, and that doesn't make any horse look correct. He only looks to be slightly cow hocked to me. Its really not a big deal. As far as a ewe neck, there's certaninly worse. Plus, a ewe neck never stopped an endurance horse in the past Have you talked to your farrier about his slight pidgeon toe? It may help. __________________ I played with a clouded leopard

07-16-2008, 09:04 AM
shadow Weanling Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SW ohio Posts: 295	I would be tickled to own him. Granted he isn't put together perfect, but a trusty mount like that is worth is weight in gold.

07-17-2008, 01:19 AM
arabiancowgirl Long Yearling Join Date: May 2008 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 1,156	I don't think he has a ewe neck If you turn his neck the other direction it still would be the same ps Also some arabians have what is called "swan necks" at least it's the term they use up here in Alaska My filly has a "swan neck" and it is not a conformation default, does not effect her in any way __________________ I thank God for my horses and german shepherds.

07-17-2008, 10:41 PM
RenosGirl Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 558	lol this is the problem with talking on the internet you can never tell the tone of voice the person is writting in. I never took it as a bad thing, just trying to understand what people think. __________________ Go and love your babies today, and everyday...you never know when it could be the last time.