12 yr old QH/saddlebred

samtom · 06-15-2008, 08:57 PM

BREED: QH/Saddlebred x. I think. Any suggestions would be great on breed.
AGE: 12
GENDER: gelding
HEIGHT: 16.1 HH
HORSE'S CURRENT JOB AND FUTURE INTENDED USES: My 5 yr old's barrel and pole horse, present and future job. Maybe some jumping/english down the road as my daughter gets older. What do you think?
ADDITIONAL INFO: Last year Shawn won MS state with his previous owner on poles, he was consistant 19-20 sec. Now he calmly trots and lopes back with my daughter. I played with him one night and jumped 2 feet with ease.

Edited to change pictures:

pvf · 06-18-2008, 07:46 AM

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johnny&corkscrew · 06-18-2008, 07:52 AM

I like him. Just as long as he takes care of your daughter. Very kind eye.

samtom · 06-18-2008, 09:53 PM

anyone have any conformations critiques?

haleyg · 06-18-2008, 11:19 PM

no comments as I am not good enough to, but wow does he ever look like my daughter sb/qh cross.

Ayla · 06-19-2008, 06:09 PM

One: why would you cross a QH with a Saddlebred?
Two: Her topline is almost as flat as a picnic table.
Three: She is very correct in her legs, and looks like she'll be sound for years to come

samtom · 06-19-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla

One: why would you cross a QH with a Saddlebred?

I have no idea. He is very athletic though. And I am just guessing he is a QH/saddlebred cross.

jjsimsez · 06-19-2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla

One: why would you cross a QH with a Saddlebred?
Two: Her topline is almost as flat as a picnic table.
Three: She is very correct in her legs, and looks like she'll be sound for years to come

ya no,i wonder the same thing.i have one ,too.my mare has an even flatter back.otherwise they look alike.he looks rock solid,i agree.is he smooth to ride?just asking cause mine is awfully rough.but everyone has flaws and id never trade her for anything

.he looks like hes built good for a barrel racer.breed info:make sure his saddle fits good!!!i had many probs with this at gullet.ended up just getting a gaited saddle.the SB is a bit hyper and at times this shows thru.he looks like a good match for your little speed demon.

samtom · 06-19-2008, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjsimsez

ya no,i wonder the same thing.i have one ,too.my mare has an even flatter back.otherwise they look alike.he looks rock solid,i agree.is he smooth to ride?just asking cause mine is awfully rough.but everyone has flaws and id never trade her for anything

.he looks like hes built good for a barrel racer.

He is very rough!!! My daughter can really post thanks to him. There is no sitting that trot! His lope is smooth, but heavy.

jjsimsez · 06-19-2008, 07:31 PM

good grief ive never heard of another breed cross like mine till your post.too funny.hes great for english then!i trail ride and look funny trying to sit that trot,lol.cant beat the loyalty and heart of this breed cross.but with her rough ride, i call her the experiment that went bad.but im joking and shell never be sold.yep her lope is same.very heavy like she just puts everything into it.and she walks so fast i have a hard time walking with her.(while leading)just a go getter.

samtom · 06-19-2008, 08:00 PM

do you have any pics of her? I would love to see her. Are her feet big, his are! When it is time for a trim they look like saucers

. His walk is also very fast. He is beautiful pole bending, at least high school level. Barrels he is ok, runs a 16. With my daughter he runs a 33 and that is trotting!

jjsimsez · 06-20-2008, 11:09 PM

ill see if i can post a pic.her feet are small.farrier says this is why she dont like rocks.is real ouchy on gravel when rode.so she wears shoes in riding months.33 is good at a trot!i bet your daughter thinks hes fast!watch out ,shes gonna be a daredevil.my kids wont get on anything higher than their ponies.

samtom · 06-22-2008, 03:21 PM

For some reason she doesn't care how tall they are, she just does not like to getting up there. She freaks out leaving the ground until she is sitting on the horse.

Anyone else with conformation critiques? I would really like to know more about his conformation and what else he may be good for.

samtom · 06-24-2008, 03:37 PM

Anyone?

Cappysmom · 06-24-2008, 03:45 PM

sorry can't tell you about confirmation as i am just learning. I think his feet look straight and it looks like he has high withers and that is about all I can tell you. However i think he looks quite handsome and he looks like he is taking care of your daughter when she is riding him and that means more than any confirmation flaw that he might have.

jjsimsez · 07-03-2008, 09:46 PM

well i never figured out how to get pic on thread but hubby did put her on avatar for me.small but here she is

Eagles Nest · 07-04-2008, 03:43 PM

I'll take a stab at it....To me he looks like he could indeed be a QH/ASB cross, he also looks like he could be a Standardbred cross, or a full Saddlebred (some of the old style ones are REALLY stocky)...Plus it seems he has the go and heart of an ASB.

That said...his strengths; I like his eye, he has wonderful straight legs, he has a strong hind quarter and shoulder, nice length of neck.

His croup is a little slopped for my liking, but is common for his breeding, he is a little camped under (meaning his front legs are further under his shoulders rather than straight down), he is a little long in the barrel, his neck ties in a little low on his wither (which makes sense for his cross) however he USES his neck very well. He is also a little base narrow, which shouldn't be a problem as his legs are so straight.

He has a big kind eye, but he is a little roman nosed (common in the Standardbreds and Saddlebreds). His ears are set a little wide, but his eyes are wonderfully expressive.

That said, form to function, you shouldn't have a problem with him being sound for years to come, and the only thing I can see him developing in old age is a swayed back....

samtom · 07-04-2008, 03:52 PM

Thank you so much! I was too wondering if he could be full saddlebred, but that no b/c of his stockyness. I did not know about the old style ones. Everything about him screams saddlebred to me.

jjsimsez · 07-05-2008, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samtom

Thank you so much! I was too wondering if he could be full saddlebred, but that no b/c of his stockyness. I did not know about the old style ones. Everything about him screams saddlebred to me.

thats what the guy who saddle fitted my girl said too.

samtom · 07-17-2008, 11:42 AM

Anyone else? Think he could jump or show english? His trot is beautiful!

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06-15-2008, 08:57 PM
samtom Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 749	12 yr old QH/saddlebred BREED: QH/Saddlebred x. I think. Any suggestions would be great on breed. AGE: 12 GENDER: gelding HEIGHT: 16.1 HH HORSE'S CURRENT JOB AND FUTURE INTENDED USES: My 5 yr old's barrel and pole horse, present and future job. Maybe some jumping/english down the road as my daughter gets older. What do you think? ADDITIONAL INFO: Last year Shawn won MS state with his previous owner on poles, he was consistant 19-20 sec. Now he calmly trots and lopes back with my daughter. I played with him one night and jumped 2 feet with ease. Edited to change pictures: Last edited by pvf : 06-18-2008 at 07:44 AM.

06-18-2008, 07:46 AM
pvf Regional Forums Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,441	How to Critique Horses - read this if you want to comment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the rules about how to critique horses in the conformation clinic. Please check back here as this forum progresses since we will be making updates as we go along. 1. Be honest but friendly. All horses have flaws -- you can certainly point them out. BUT, do not say things in a way that could be construed as rude or overly negative. Keep all comments focused on the horse. Do not say anything critical about the owner. 2. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Just like how all horses have flaws, they all have good points. If you have something negative to say, be sure to also include a positive comment. Keep things friendly -- give your comments the way you would if a good friend asked you for your opinion. 3. If you don't have anything conformation-related to say, please PM the horse's owner instead of replying in here. People posting in this area are looking for conformation-related responses. Even if you're not well versed in conformation, please don't be shy about trying to critique the horse or ask questions about his/her conformation. But, since this is the conformation clinic, please make sure your response does pertain to conformation! Comments such as "he sure is pretty!" should be made via PM if you aren't also commenting on the horse's conformation. 4. People WILL say things you disagree with. Keep your comments focused on your own ideas, and not reactions to other people's posts. If you think you'll be bothered by seeing comments that you think are "wrong" - then don't visit this forum!!! It is not your job to convince everyone that your opinion is correct. Say what you believe and let others come to their own conclusions. If people have trouble following these rules, we will make critiquing by invitation only. For help understanding conformation better check out these to threads: Horse Conformations for Dummies- P.1 Conformation for Dummies P.2 __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

06-18-2008, 07:52 AM
johnny&corkscrew Weanling Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ft. Pierce, Florida Posts: 208	I like him. Just as long as he takes care of your daughter. Very kind eye.

06-18-2008, 09:53 PM
samtom Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 749	anyone have any conformations critiques?

06-18-2008, 11:19 PM
haleyg Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: alberta Posts: 154	no comments as I am not good enough to, but wow does he ever look like my daughter sb/qh cross.

06-19-2008, 06:09 PM
Ayla Newborn Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	One: why would you cross a QH with a Saddlebred? Two: Her topline is almost as flat as a picnic table. Three: She is very correct in her legs, and looks like she'll be sound for years to come

06-19-2008, 07:31 PM
jjsimsez Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: indiana Posts: 378	good grief ive never heard of another breed cross like mine till your post.too funny.hes great for english then!i trail ride and look funny trying to sit that trot,lol.cant beat the loyalty and heart of this breed cross.but with her rough ride, i call her the experiment that went bad.but im joking and shell never be sold.yep her lope is same.very heavy like she just puts everything into it.and she walks so fast i have a hard time walking with her.(while leading)just a go getter.

06-19-2008, 08:00 PM
samtom Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 749	do you have any pics of her? I would love to see her. Are her feet big, his are! When it is time for a trim they look like saucers. His walk is also very fast. He is beautiful pole bending, at least high school level. Barrels he is ok, runs a 16. With my daughter he runs a 33 and that is trotting! Last edited by samtom : 06-19-2008 at 08:02 PM.

06-20-2008, 11:09 PM
jjsimsez Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: indiana Posts: 378	ill see if i can post a pic.her feet are small.farrier says this is why she dont like rocks.is real ouchy on gravel when rode.so she wears shoes in riding months.33 is good at a trot!i bet your daughter thinks hes fast!watch out ,shes gonna be a daredevil.my kids wont get on anything higher than their ponies.

06-22-2008, 03:21 PM
samtom Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 749	For some reason she doesn't care how tall they are, she just does not like to getting up there. She freaks out leaving the ground until she is sitting on the horse. Anyone else with conformation critiques? I would really like to know more about his conformation and what else he may be good for.

06-24-2008, 03:37 PM
samtom Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 749	Anyone?

06-24-2008, 03:45 PM
Cappysmom Long Yearling Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgian Bay Ontario Posts: 1,326	sorry can't tell you about confirmation as i am just learning. I think his feet look straight and it looks like he has high withers and that is about all I can tell you. However i think he looks quite handsome and he looks like he is taking care of your daughter when she is riding him and that means more than any confirmation flaw that he might have.

07-03-2008, 09:46 PM
jjsimsez Weanling Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: indiana Posts: 378	well i never figured out how to get pic on thread but hubby did put her on avatar for me.small but here she is

07-04-2008, 03:43 PM
Eagles Nest Long Yearling Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,014	I'll take a stab at it....To me he looks like he could indeed be a QH/ASB cross, he also looks like he could be a Standardbred cross, or a full Saddlebred (some of the old style ones are REALLY stocky)...Plus it seems he has the go and heart of an ASB. That said...his strengths; I like his eye, he has wonderful straight legs, he has a strong hind quarter and shoulder, nice length of neck. His croup is a little slopped for my liking, but is common for his breeding, he is a little camped under (meaning his front legs are further under his shoulders rather than straight down), he is a little long in the barrel, his neck ties in a little low on his wither (which makes sense for his cross) however he USES his neck very well. He is also a little base narrow, which shouldn't be a problem as his legs are so straight. He has a big kind eye, but he is a little roman nosed (common in the Standardbreds and Saddlebreds). His ears are set a little wide, but his eyes are wonderfully expressive. That said, form to function, you shouldn't have a problem with him being sound for years to come, and the only thing I can see him developing in old age is a swayed back.... __________________ You earn your blue ribbons at home, you just pick them up at shows!

07-04-2008, 03:52 PM
samtom Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 749	Thank you so much! I was too wondering if he could be full saddlebred, but that no b/c of his stockyness. I did not know about the old style ones. Everything about him screams saddlebred to me.

07-17-2008, 11:42 AM
samtom Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 749	Anyone else? Think he could jump or show english? His trot is beautiful!