9 year old Arabian mare

Ayla · 05-27-2008, 08:24 PM

Breed: Arabian
Age: 9
Gender: mare
Height: 15.3 about
Horse's current job and future intended uses: currently in training for hunter pleasure, but will probably jump once she's done there

pvf · 05-28-2008, 08:04 AM

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**beth55051** · 05-28-2008, 10:25 AM

She has a pleasing head, looks like Crabbet type breeding, a decent trim throatlatch and her neck has a decent length and set to it. Okay shoulder, though I'd prefer to see it a bit more set back so she can reach for the stride she needs to do hunters.

I'm not to keen on the way her front legs both apear to toe out considerably. She also appears to be quite toe long. I can't tell because of the long grass if she needs a trim. She also appears to be back at the knees which could predispose her to lameness problems down the line especially if you really do plan on jumping her. She doesn't look to me to have the proper landing gear needed to stay sound jumping.

Her back appears a touch long and weak over the loins.

I do not like her hindquarters at all. Her croup appears half way between that of a performance type horse and a halter horse. Could make it hard for her to really use her hindquarters. She looks very cowhocked behind with very posty hocks. And her pasterns are so long and sloped I'd be seriously worried about putting her through any kind of hard work, especially that of a over fences horse.

She might make a cute little beginners hunter but I don't see her being able to really stand up to really jumping.

And please!! No sandals around horses, one bug stomp and you can loose all your toes!

HotxtoxTrot · 05-29-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beth55051

She has a pleasing head, looks like Crabbet type breeding, a decent trim throatlatch and her neck has a decent length and set to it. Okay shoulder, though I'd prefer to see it a bit more set back so she can reach for the stride she needs to do hunters.

I'm not to keen on the way her front legs both apear to toe out considerably. She also appears to be quite toe long. I can't tell because of the long grass if she needs a trim. She also appears to be back at the knees which could predispose her to lameness problems down the line especially if you really do plan on jumping her. She doesn't look to me to have the proper landing gear needed to stay sound jumping.

Her back appears a touch long and weak over the loins.

I do not like her hindquarters at all. Her croup appears half way between that of a performance type horse and a halter horse. Could make it hard for her to really use her hindquarters. She looks very cowhocked behind with very posty hocks. And her pasterns are so long and sloped I'd be seriously worried about putting her through any kind of hard work, especially that of a over fences horse.

She might make a cute little beginners hunter but I don't see her being able to really stand up to really jumping.

And please!! No sandals around horses, one bug stomp and you can loose all your toes!

I agree with what beth55051 said- she is not built well enough for jumping and would most likely break down, unfortunately. I like her front end, but her hind end would not put up with stress well/ function as well as it could.

Nynx · 05-29-2008, 10:36 PM

She has a kind face but I agree with the other comments. Her neck also seems a bit too long for her body BUT that can be the photos. Horses don't always cooperate for photo ops.

She looks like a good fun trail and arena horse, maybe some low jumps for fun, but I don't think she'd enjoy highly competitve jumping as she just doesn't seem to be built for it and that leads to pain and breakdown.

Not to be down on your sweet horse, just my opinion which is worth what you paid for it...NOTHING! Lol.

Shepdog · 05-29-2008, 11:13 PM

I really don't feel comfortable answering many of these conformation threads - er, I'm a dog/cat conformation person, I'm afraid. I just have an Arab of my own and like looking at everyone else's, so by all means, I'd love to be corrected if I'm not seeing what I think I'm seeing...

I agree with the other posters that those hind legs look really questionable to me. Actually what's really catching my eye is the hind pasterns. It honestly looks like it's something a lot more serious than just a long pastern... On that second shot, it nearly looks like it's touching the ground.

Do you have any other pictures of her moving, by any chance?

cameo05 · 05-30-2008, 10:11 AM

I agree with everything that Beth and the others said. I do not like her back pasterns either. She is low to the ground. To me she is not built to be a Jumper and like was stated, she will not be sound long doing that. In my honest opinion, I would not attenpt to jump her.

Now, she is a very pretty mare and had a lovely head. She looks like a sweety.

Baycrash · 05-30-2008, 09:20 PM

She is very pretty! But I too caught those back pasterns right off...not a good angle going on there at all.

BabyMay · 05-30-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shepdog

I really don't feel comfortable answering many of these conformation threads - er, I'm a dog/cat conformation person, I'm afraid. I just have an Arab of my own and like looking at everyone else's, so by all means, I'd love to be corrected if I'm not seeing what I think I'm seeing...

I agree with the other posters that those hind legs look really questionable to me. Actually what's really catching my eye is the hind pasterns. It honestly looks like it's something a lot more serious than just a long pastern... On that second shot, it nearly looks like it's touching the ground.

Do you have any other pictures of her moving, by any chance?

I agree with you. I was just telling hubby about the pasterns being way to long and weak , when I read your post. She has a very nice head and with a sweat on would have a nice neck. She looks like a sweet heart, but I also don't think she would hold up to the stress of jumping.

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05-27-2008, 08:24 PM
Ayla Newborn Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	9 year old Arabian mare Breed: Arabian Age: 9 Gender: mare Height: 15.3 about Horse's current job and future intended uses: currently in training for hunter pleasure, but will probably jump once she's done there

05-28-2008, 08:04 AM
pvf Regional Forums Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,441	How to Critique Horses - read this if you want to comment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the rules about how to critique horses in the conformation clinic. Please check back here as this forum progresses since we will be making updates as we go along. 1. Be honest but friendly. All horses have flaws -- you can certainly point them out. BUT, do not say things in a way that could be construed as rude or overly negative. Keep all comments focused on the horse. Do not say anything critical about the owner. 2. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Just like how all horses have flaws, they all have good points. If you have something negative to say, be sure to also include a positive comment. Keep things friendly -- give your comments the way you would if a good friend asked you for your opinion. 3. If you don't have anything conformation-related to say, please PM the horse's owner instead of replying in here. People posting in this area are looking for conformation-related responses. Even if you're not well versed in conformation, please don't be shy about trying to critique the horse or ask questions about his/her conformation. But, since this is the conformation clinic, please make sure your response does pertain to conformation! Comments such as "he sure is pretty!" should be made via PM if you aren't also commenting on the horse's conformation. 4. People WILL say things you disagree with. Keep your comments focused on your own ideas, and not reactions to other people's posts. If you think you'll be bothered by seeing comments that you think are "wrong" - then don't visit this forum!!! It is not your job to convince everyone that your opinion is correct. Say what you believe and let others come to their own conclusions. If people have trouble following these rules, we will make critiquing by invitation only. __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

05-28-2008, 10:25 AM
beth55051 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Central Minnesota Posts: 4,733	She has a pleasing head, looks like Crabbet type breeding, a decent trim throatlatch and her neck has a decent length and set to it. Okay shoulder, though I'd prefer to see it a bit more set back so she can reach for the stride she needs to do hunters. I'm not to keen on the way her front legs both apear to toe out considerably. She also appears to be quite toe long. I can't tell because of the long grass if she needs a trim. She also appears to be back at the knees which could predispose her to lameness problems down the line especially if you really do plan on jumping her. She doesn't look to me to have the proper landing gear needed to stay sound jumping. Her back appears a touch long and weak over the loins. I do not like her hindquarters at all. Her croup appears half way between that of a performance type horse and a halter horse. Could make it hard for her to really use her hindquarters. She looks very cowhocked behind with very posty hocks. And her pasterns are so long and sloped I'd be seriously worried about putting her through any kind of hard work, especially that of a over fences horse. She might make a cute little beginners hunter but I don't see her being able to really stand up to really jumping. And please!! No sandals around horses, one bug stomp and you can loose all your toes! __________________ *Do not mind anything that anyone tells you about anyone else. Judge everyone and everything for yourself.*

05-29-2008, 10:36 PM
Nynx Yearling Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 600	She has a kind face but I agree with the other comments. Her neck also seems a bit too long for her body BUT that can be the photos. Horses don't always cooperate for photo ops. She looks like a good fun trail and arena horse, maybe some low jumps for fun, but I don't think she'd enjoy highly competitve jumping as she just doesn't seem to be built for it and that leads to pain and breakdown. Not to be down on your sweet horse, just my opinion which is worth what you paid for it...NOTHING! Lol. __________________ ~:>

05-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Shepdog Yearling Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the doghouse... no, literally. Posts: 646	I really don't feel comfortable answering many of these conformation threads - er, I'm a dog/cat conformation person, I'm afraid. I just have an Arab of my own and like looking at everyone else's, so by all means, I'd love to be corrected if I'm not seeing what I think I'm seeing... I agree with the other posters that those hind legs look really questionable to me. Actually what's really catching my eye is the hind pasterns. It honestly looks like it's something a lot more serious than just a long pastern... On that second shot, it nearly looks like it's touching the ground. Do you have any other pictures of her moving, by any chance? __________________ No philosophers so thoroughly comprehend us as dogs and horses.

05-30-2008, 10:11 AM
cameo05 Bombproof Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 8,833	I agree with everything that Beth and the others said. I do not like her back pasterns either. She is low to the ground. To me she is not built to be a Jumper and like was stated, she will not be sound long doing that. In my honest opinion, I would not attenpt to jump her. Now, she is a very pretty mare and had a lovely head. She looks like a sweety. __________________

05-30-2008, 09:20 PM
Baycrash Halter broke Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Missouri Posts: 140	She is very pretty! But I too caught those back pasterns right off...not a good angle going on there at all.