Shataun's Mystique - 6 y/o Arabian Mare

[Iwasbornonahorse]

Sire: Darc Shataun, Spanish (black) Arabian, Grand Champion Arabian Stallion, 1999 W.I.F. Best of Show all breeds.
Dam: AW Bay Mystique, class A halter winner, Crabbet Arabian

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Conformation markings:

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This one shows her slight down hill angle with green being level and purple being her true angle:
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[HotxtoxTrot]

Good Points: Beautiful head, nice shoulder/front end, nice feet, nice bone.

Bad Points: overly long back, very weak hind end, too long cannon bones (although I am used to dealing with heavier built horses, so I'm not sure of Arabian standards)

She is a very pretty girl!

[Iwasbornonahorse]

Originally Posted by HotxtoxTrot

Good Points: Beautiful head, nice shoulder/front end, nice feet, nice bone.

Bad Points: overly long back, very weak hind end, too long cannon bones (although I am used to dealing with heavier built horses, so I'm not sure of Arabian standards)

She is a very pretty girl!

Thank you, I am quite taken with her good looks myself

I do agree with you about her front end, it's almost text book in my opinion. Her feet are HUGE just like they should be and she's not the typical thinner built Arabian. To me her back is the proper short Arab back, and her cannons don't seem too terribly long though I agree that they are a bit longer than desireable. She isn't a Quarter horse, so her hindend is going to be different of course, but as far as Arabs go I think she has a nice deep hip and a well structured hindend suited for endurance type running as an Arab should be, rather than structured for the quick powerful bursts a QH is.

Some of it is the photo, but I also think she is just a little bit downhill. Her back feet are up on a small rise in the first photo, but she is in factuality a small degree downhill.

In Arabians stallions are supposed to have smallish ears while a mare should have large and long ears, curved inward. She does have large ears, in fact just yesterday I was teasing her about being part donkey

When Arabians were still being used as the primary mode of transportation and means to ride into battle in the desert, mares were much more valued than stallions, because it was thought that they were more loyal and alert. (Maybe because of the bigger ears?)


Edited to add: I need a better shot of her head too because in Arabians the head is one of the important parts of the conformation. She does have a Jibbah but none of my photos are angled as such that you could see it. I'll work on it

[dreamer1]

What I can see from those pics..
The only thing it looks like she is lacking is the level topline/croup.Other than that she appears to be a nice looking mare.
I think her head is a tad long (could be pic) as an arabian owner I know how hard it can be to get a picture that best describes their head..If all those pics are of her the one where she is moving out she looks nice.looks like a typical arab.But JMO...I am no conformation expert....All in all nice looking mare..

[HotxtoxTrot]

Originally Posted by Iwasbornonahorse

When Arabians were still being used as the primary mode of transportation and means to ride into battle in the desert, mares were much more valued than stallions, because it was thought that they were more loyal and alert. (Maybe because of the bigger ears?)

I heard it was because they wouldn't call out to other horses as often and eliminate the element of suprise..?

[Druydess]

Originally Posted by HotxtoxTrot

I heard it was because they wouldn't call out to other horses as often and eliminate the element of suprise..?

It was both reasons...

[Druydess]

I have 4 Arabians and your is built much like my Crabbet and her daughter. Mine also has a bit of slope to her croup. She looks to be very slightly behind the knee in front, but that could be the pic, and it makes no difference really. Pasterns may be a tad long, but another of my Arabs has that too.
I love her face; very feminine and alert - nice eyes. Legs are straight and it looks like her shoulder is powerful and smooth. I think her butt will fill out with age as my 5 year old is still filling out and gaining muscle.
I think she's pretty!

[For8tune]

I really like your Arab mare. I think her size and look has a lot to do with her gene pool. Crabbets tend to be thicker and better put together in my opinion. Older breeding like I LOVE!!! She doesn't have that snake like neck, flat croup and tiny feet like most Arabs bred today. She looks like she would be very functionable. I just love her face very beautiful!!! Sweet eyes. Nice gait.

[Iwasbornonahorse]

Originally Posted by Druydess

It was both reasons...

Good to know

[Iwasbornonahorse]

Originally Posted by Druydess

I have 4 Arabians and your is built much like my Crabbet and her daughter. Mine also has a bit of slope to her croup. She looks to be very slightly behind the knee in front, but that could be the pic, and it makes no difference really. Pasterns may be a tad long, but another of my Arabs has that too.
I love her face; very feminine and alert - nice eyes. Legs are straight and it looks like her shoulder is powerful and smooth. I think her butt will fill out with age as my 5 year old is still filling out and gaining muscle.
I think she's pretty!

Originally Posted by For8tune

I really like your Arab mare. I think her size and look has a lot to do with her gene pool. Crabbets tend to be thicker and better put together in my opinion. Older breeding like I LOVE!!! She doesn't have that snake like neck, flat croup and tiny feet like most Arabs bred today. She looks like she would be very functionable. I just love her face very beautiful!!! Sweet eyes. Nice gait.

Thanks she's a nice girl We're still just getting to know each other. I don't think she is back at the knee, I think it's the photo...but I'm not 100% sure on that. Here is a different one:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...e/HPIM3760.jpg

[arabiancowgirl]

I love her Sorry that's all I wanted to post

[BabyMay]

She is built for durability and function. Not just to look at , like a lot of the Arabs bred today. I believe she will fill out more with age. Arabs mature slower than most other breeds. Overall, she is a nice looking mare.

[Druydess]

That photo is much better...knees look great...

[Iwasbornonahorse]

Thanks again for the evaluations. She is kind of vain and I swear she likes it when you tell her how pretty she is

Yeah, a conformation photographer I am not...I have the worst time getting anyone squared up, and usually catch someone in mid-motion or stomping a foot etc

[HotxtoxTrot]

OH yeah- that picture is much better! I take away the long in the back comment, and her hind looks a lot better: she looks great in the second pic!

[FreezeMark.net]

Pedigree wise she's a mix of Spanish, Polish and domestic breeding. Her sire was roughly half Spanish and half Gainey breeding (domestic). Her dam is primarily half Crabbet through her sire and her granddam is a mix of domestic and polish. Her all important tail female line (for Arabians at least ) goes back to Polish breeding a mare named Gazella II to Abra.

I'm sorry, but I don't see any Khemosabi breeding anywhere in there? Interesting mix nonetheless. Spanish bred horses are known for their huge luminous eyes and overall quality and the Gainey breeding is also some of my favorite breeding. Hope this helps

[Iwasbornonahorse]

Originally Posted by FreezeMark.net

Pedigree wise she's a mix of Spanish, Polish and domestic breeding. Her sire was roughly half Spanish and half Gainey breeding (domestic). Her dam is primarily half Crabbet through her sire and her granddam is a mix of domestic and polish. Her all important tail female line (for Arabians at least ) goes back to Polish breeding a mare named Gazella II to Abra.

I'm sorry, but I don't see any Khemosabi breeding anywhere in there? Interesting mix nonetheless. Spanish bred horses are known for their huge luminous eyes and overall quality and the Gainey breeding is also some of my favorite breeding. Hope this helps

No there is no Khemo in her, my gelding is the Khemo arab. Thanks though. What's Gainey? Can you link a website?

[FreezeMark.net]

The Ferzon in there is considered Gainey breeding http://www.gaineyarabians.com/index.html and the Raffon lines also go back to Ferzon.

[Iwasbornonahorse]

Thanks