Sebastion

[sli92]

Breed: Arabian
Age: 8
Gender: Gelding
Height: 15.3
Horse's current job and future intended uses: Currently he is still in training... has had 8 months now . He will be my future Arab Sport Horse, Eventer, and maybe some dressage shows!
Additional Information: Sab had one month put on him when he was 4, and got to hang out in the pasture all gangly until he was 7 and I bought him. Since then he has matured greatly. He still has some growing to do, as his body shape is currently fluctuating.

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[sli92]

no comments?
more pictures soon...

[Bandit]

Ok, I'm by no means an expert, especially with arabians - but I will give it a whirl.

He looks to have good sized feet for his body, nice straight legs - though the back ones look a touch camped out, but not bad. High-set tail, which is an arabian trait. Neck seems a bit long, but I like the slope of the shoulder.

The first picture (which is the one that looks like it was taken a bit more level) he looks to have a nice slightly up-hill build, which is what you will want for dressage. To me, he looks like he will be a nice all-round horse for you.

Look forward to more photos.

[ruffian]

Is this horse pure Arab ( I don't want to be offensive, but he doesn't look real typey to me)
Anyway
Nice round barrel, short back, knees set low, tail set is a bit high, but not the normal flat croup that you see on Arabs. This is a plus for jumping, more likely to be able to get well under himself.
Shoulder is a good sixe and has some nice slope to it. I'd like a little more weight/ muscle esp through the back end. His legs look clean and straight, good angles.
His neck could tie in a little higher on his chest, better for flexion. He has a lovely soft eye and an appealing head, but not very Arab. Throatlach could be a little more refined.
Overall, he looks to be an attractive, kind horse with a good build for an allrounder. Depending on your size I might want to see a little more bone and foot on him for lots of jumping and galloping,
For dressage it will be all about his movement, his overall build indicates he should move well, (good shoulder and legs)

[lady dumpling]

Hi Sarah ,you know I am an extreme amateur ,but being as your a friend i will take a stab at it.First of all I think he is beautiful.What I think I see is that he is a little thick in the throat latch and his neck ties in a little low.He looks to toe out ever so slighly in the back but hard to tell.I think he has a gorgeous eye,and I can hardly wait to meet him.

[EquineAlberta]

My overall first impression of him was positive; his different parts flow together nicely.

I like his stifle and hip angle for eventing; it looks like he will have the push power to clear widths well. He is a little camped out behind though, which will make collection and gathering himself difficult on his hocks.

His shoulder angle is decent for dressage or hunters. The angle of his shoulder is pretty open for a jumper. Hard to tell, but he may be a little tight at the elbows, which can cause (minor) issues for jumping and can lead to a horse acting girthy as they can be tight in the ribs there.

He needs some muscle work in front of his withers if you want him to be able to do sustained collection, but should not affect him at all for lower level dressage or for jumping.

In both pictures his right front hoof angle seems very upright, and his left front seems low in the heel.

I didn't think he looked thick in the throatlatch...just hairy! I like his prospect as an eventer. He has a really good look about him.

Karen

[sli92]

Originally Posted by EquineAlberta

In both pictures his right front hoof angle seems very upright, and his left front seems low in the heel.

I didn't think he looked thick in the throatlatch...just hairy! I like his prospect as an eventer. He has a really good look about him.

Karen

yes, the first picture was in october(after 1.5 months of working), the second was in February... so he has a LOT more muscle now, although now he is going through a growth spurt and looks like a little TB... he should even out soon.

as for the hooves, i very much agree, and the farrier is working on it... his feet grow oddly, they dont grow very much but are VERY strong. the sides grow faster than the toe making him flare, yet there isnt enough to nipper off, so the past few visits she has worked on correcting the shape. We will get pictures tomorrow at the show...

(yes his throatlatch isnt THAT thick, its just REDICULSOUSLY hairy... when i clipped it out, i got to go up 3 holes on his bridle HAHAHA)

he does have a slightly long back, and long neck, so it is taking some time to get him really working up under himself... but he is starting to work very nicely(under saddle pictures to come asap.)
thanks guys!

[sli92]

and yes, purebred arabian... dna'd and all...
i would give him like anglo(75% tb, 25% arab) but i would never in 100000 years guess purebred...
and he has some odd little appy spots here and there... but thats another story

[lady dumpling]

When I originally looked at Sabastian's pictures I wondered if it was just fluffy hair in his throatlatch,guess I should of followed my original hunch.I see what you guys are talking about in his front feet.Is it possible that his throatlatch toned a bit along with the rest of him? I just wanted to say that I think he is comeing along beautifully.I can really see the difference in him.He even looks taller.I guess he is taller as you said he just went through a growth spurt.Hope you don't mind me asking if I am just seeing stuff in the angles of his back hooves(conformation is something I really enjoy learning about)I see his right hoof ever so slightly turning in and his left ever so slightly turning out(original pics)is it the shading of his hair? He looks like he is really enjoying his time with you Sarah and I can see how much you love him too.Beautiful boy!

P.S. I think he is looking more like an Arabian now.

[DriftwoodAcres]

When I saw the first pics I thought he looked allitle stocky for a purebreed, but I guess that was just winter woolies. He's gorgeous, looks purebreed to me. He looks like a nice all around horse, and should do well in dressage (I think?)

[sli92]

cindy- yes, he does look as though his back end is angled out in the first picture... very likely the way I stood him up :P
you dont notice it unless you are looking very closely though, so i never really noticed.

Driftwood acres= Thank you very much He was a little stocky for a purebred to begin with... but he is getting there... now he just has to put on some neck weight(in the growth spurt he REALLY lost his neck, but it is coming), and we will be almost purebred looking

pics to come from yesterdays show(didnt place lower than 4th! )

[EquineAlberta]

You have him going well in a nice relaxed arab or open show head set. He looks very pleasant! If your ultimate goal is more dressage/eventing you are going to want to correct the fact he is breaking over 1/3 down his neck rather than at his pole, and relatedly, tipped on to his forehand. He will need to reach up underhimself more behind so it may become easier when he is done growing and can balance better on his bum.

have you considered shoes to help his front hooves?

Karen

[sli92]

Originally Posted by EquineAlberta

You have him going well in a nice relaxed arab or open show head set. He looks very pleasant! If your ultimate goal is more dressage/eventing you are going to want to correct the fact he is breaking over 1/3 down his neck rather than at his pole, and relatedly, tipped on to his forehand. He will need to reach up underhimself more behind so it may become easier when he is done growing and can balance better on his bum.

have you considered shoes to help his front hooves?

Karen

yes, i am slowly correcting his neck, but in the same breath, he has only been working for 8 months, and I am really not going to push him too fast. He does lift himself up nicely, but it is still hard... he is slowly getting it moreso as his mind progresses.

as for shoes, it is tough to consider only front shoes, if we are eventing it will need to be either all 4 shoes with corkholes, or no shoes at all, for traction.
sadly I cannot afford all 4 shoes all summer long, and he is going very well without. I am thinking about talking with my farrier about maybe just shaping his hooves every 4 weeks or so, which would help nicely.

[EquineAlberta]

I am sure it will all fall into place when he finishes growing. He really looks lovely and happy and I can't wait to see him at the shows!

Karen

[sli92]

Originally Posted by EquineAlberta

I am sure it will all fall into place when he finishes growing. He really looks lovely and happy and I can't wait to see him at the shows!

Karen

yes deffinetly. You should see him at the showcase (please dont laugh too hard at his lack of neck, it honestly dissapeared overnight :P ) yet I won;t be riding him... he will be going with another girl... then the beaumont event(are you going?)

im surprized that an 8 y/o can go through such wierd growth spurts.
show pictures on their way!!

[sli92]

well this is sab's first time having to go long and low... he couldnt really figure it out, but did very well






not really confo pics... and yes he is quite on the forehand... she was placing long n low horses, so we had some issues figureing out how not to keep our "almost dressage" frame

[EquineAlberta]

Sarah, the frame you are thinking is long and low IS a proper dressage frame for training and even first level dressage. He is using his hocks slightly more and his back is rounder in these photos than the other one. He is less on his forehand (you can see his rump is lower)...I think he looks way better in the show pictures...and I love the head shots!

(We might go to Beaumont if they have better stabling than last year)

Karen

[BornToRide]

I can't tell you much about confirmation....
but I sure love his color!!
What a gorgeous boy!

[BabyMay]

Originally Posted by ruffian

Is this horse pure Arab ( I don't want to be offensive, but he doesn't look real typey to me)
Anyway
Nice round barrel, short back, knees set low, tail set is a bit high, but not the normal flat croup that you see on Arabs. This is a plus for jumping, more likely to be able to get well under himself.
Shoulder is a good sixe and has some nice slope to it. I'd like a little more weight/ muscle esp through the back end. His legs look clean and straight, good angles.
His neck could tie in a little higher on his chest, better for flexion. He has a lovely soft eye and an appealing head, but not very Arab. Throatlach could be a little more refined.
Overall, he looks to be an attractive, kind horse with a good build for an allrounder. Depending on your size I might want to see a little more bone and foot on him for lots of jumping and galloping,
For dressage it will be all about his movement, his overall build indicates he should move well, (good shoulder and legs)

I thought he looked like an Anglo-Arab