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Old 04-06-2008, 05:51 PM  
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Coming 4yo Quarter Horse

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Registered Name: Breakin Rulz Iz Cool (Barn: Breaker)
Breed: Quarter Horse
Age: He turns 4 in the beginning of May
Gender: Gelding
Height: 15.1h
Pedigree:http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/breakin+rulz+iz+cool

Horse's current job and future intended uses:
Currently- In training. Right now Breaker is learning the fundamentals in horsemanship and the essentials for any discipline that he may end up doing. Regardless of intended/future use, he is getting the basics in being a good broke horse first!

For the Future- First and foremost Breaker is my number one partner in crime. We will in the future, and do now, everything together.
I’d like to do Western Pleasure, Western Riding, and Reining if he doesn’t get any bigger! Working cows and cutting would be fun but I don’t have any cows and he is already a little big to be a cutting horse anyway.
We will also be doing Halter and Showmanship too, but thats more for fun and to get used to showing and being shown!

Additional Information:
I tried to get good pictures; it was not sunny like I wanted and the ground wasn’t perfectly level. I did try to pick a background that wasn’t super distracting. The owners of the barn have only been there like 2 years and they are doing a tremendous job of fixing the place up, so don’t let our indoor scare you that is just this summers major project. They are going to basically rip it all down and build a new one!

I’d also like to add... that YES Breaker looks a little on the thin side.
Feel free to comment on it if you feel he really is (or isn't) on the skinny side however I'm not neglecting him...
(as I was accused by another boarder)


And now with the pictures!















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Old 04-07-2008, 02:23 PM  
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How to Critique Horses - read this if you want to comment
Here are the rules about how to critique horses in the conformation clinic. Please check back here as this forum progresses since we will be making updates as we go along.

1. Be honest but friendly.
All horses have flaws -- you can certainly point them out. BUT, do not say things in a way that could be construed as rude or overly negative.
Keep all comments focused on the horse. Do not say anything critical about the owner.

2. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Just like how all horses have flaws, they all have good points. If you have something negative to say, be sure to also include a positive comment.
Keep things friendly -- give your comments the way you would if a good friend asked you for your opinion.

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People posting in this area are looking for conformation-related responses. Even if you're not well versed in conformation, please don't be shy about trying to critique the horse or ask questions about his/her conformation. But, since this is the conformation clinic, please make sure your response does pertain to conformation! Comments such as "he sure is pretty!" should be made via PM if you aren't also commenting on the horse's conformation.

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More to add:
He is an astonishing mover; exceptionally floating, perfect slow and natural cadence.
I should get a video… when he moves it makes me drool!

He has a firecracker personality with quite a bit of get up and go. However, he really wants to please you at the same time. He has not figured out how to channel his energy or his body so we take it easy on him with the ‘mental’ work.
He has the natural moves for Western Pleasure stuff, but I can see him having the ’hotter’ characteristics of a reining horse. He can haul *** but will stop at the slightest inkling of whoa when you ask for it.
You cannot keep repeating things. He just does not do well with that type of education.

His motto is “If things get scary or frustrating, you can always run away high-speed!” lol



Also, based on his conformation what would you do with him?
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:46 PM  
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I personally, somewhat like the looks of him. He looks sweet and innocent. But he has his flaws. He is very butt high, but again only coming 4. Toes in-in the front. Looks slightly cow hocked. Short neck with a larger head. He is more slim for his lines. I'd def get him on a better feed program and build muscle up.
He does have a sweet looking appeal though, the coloring and markings reminds me of my one barrel mare who I love.
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He is more slim for his lines. I'd def get him on a better feed program and build muscle up.
Believe me we are trying.

I know he is way to slim for his lines. He does need to bulk up, but his body likes the long and lanky look right now > I think 1/2 of it is due to him growing and the other 1/2 is due to him being such a picky eater... He just doesnt want to eat a lot!

We are tossing very good quality Timothy hay (Which, becuase I board I have to buy myself thanks to the price of hay ) to his 24/7. He just doesnt really seem to eat much hay... I know the hay is quality hay and is very good ie: not moldy or dusty.
And he gets a ton of Performance Pelleted feed (14%) and a performance oriented Sweet Feed product. He also gets Fast Track Equine ProBio and Source. It takes him ALL morning to eat his grain he is the slowest eater I've ever met!
btw most of his hay and ALL of his grain is fed seperate from other horses.
I'm hoping getting him on grass will help come summer

Any other suggestions on feed?


Thank you. I knew that he toed in a bit in the front. He is due for a trim (on Thursday actually) It makes it look worse- but thats why I took the photos before the farrier came. So everyone could see it. Once trimmed you can just barely tell. Kinda noticed the cowhocked too

I didnt take notice that his head was to big and his neck to short. Do you think he will grow into his head (not that I really care that much... I love him!)
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Reminder all comments must be about conformation other wise we will have to remove them. Thanks
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Also: He is ridden/worked with about 2-3 hours a day.

Grooming not included in this... this is just estimated from an average day.

15 min-1/2 Hour tops of lunging W/J/L.
1/2 Hour to 45min ring work mostly W/J with some Loping
1 Hour average of trail riding mostly W/J with very little loping up and down over hill and dale.

Perhaps he wil just stay long and lanky conformation wise
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:24 AM  
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He has a nice size heartgirth. I see him doing barrels. He is 4, so I dont think he will grow into his head at this point, but once he puts on some weight and a little more muscle on his neck and rear, he might look more proportioned (sp?) As far as the toeing in, my yearling looks like that when he is overdue for his trim. Just keep him on a 5 week schedule if you can. I really like his sweet face
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:45 AM  
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Overall he is a nice looking horse. Head is a little large and neck a little short. His rear is higher than his withers, but he could be going through a growth stage. Nice shoulder. A little long in the back. I think the toeing in at the front could be helped with corrective trimming. With just coming out of winter, I don't think he is that under weight. Maybe add some corn oil or Weight builder to his diet. Looks like he is built for speed.
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:54 AM  
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Very pretty horse..I just notice something 'odd' about his front legs...Im terrible for explaining myself....but something just looks 'off' to me maybe there is someone else who can explain it better than me I personally dont think his head is overly huge at all (IMO)
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Looks like he is built for speed.
Just wondering;
How can a horse be bred to look pretty big with muscle for Halter/All Around
But end up looking so stream line much like a horse that is built for speed(almost race horsie eh?) ?

Is it just that he hasnt filled out yet?

It seems to me anyway that he should be much 'bigger' becuase of his halter horse breeding... How did he end up so slim with little muscle definition?
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:17 PM  
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He's still young so filling out. Will eventually, obviously, fill out and start to build more muscle with work.
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He isn't extremely thin, I can't see any ribs. He is streamlined, but I wouldn't let that worry you. He has the frame and the muscle is there it just hasn't bloomed yet. When his body does bloom his head won't look big (not that I really thought that anyway) and his hocks will be more under his larger butt. He just looks like a late bloomer to me. I think his neck is fine. He looks well balanced and though he may not be exactly perfect (what horse is?) I don't see anything to complain about. Nice boy.
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I wouldn't give up on him yet... Jake was a tank, I mean litterally he was wider then he was tall, now he's hit a growth spurt and his lanky and lean, but it's all starting to come back

I thnk he might be a little butt high, but that's also just part of the growing stage. He has a very sweet look to him and I'd say when he's done growing and finishes filling out he'll be quite the looker
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This is my first critique on confirmation so if I err please be gentle with me. I also see barel horse, I think his cannon bones are a little short for his pasturn size(i think that could be what Ginger was seeing).Seems to toe in a smidgeon on the front and toe out in the back.I think his throatlatch is a little thick. He also looks a little upright in his pasturn angles in the back. He has a generous heartgirth and a pleasant look about him .looks like a sweet guy.He looks pretty nice under saddle and I also think he will still fill out a bit more and be a pretty awesome looking boy. Good luck with him.P.S. I love his barn name.
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He has a nice shoulder, and his neck should look more proportional with muscling. The major faults I see are a long back, a short croup, and he looks sickle-hocked to me.
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Very pretty horse..I just notice something 'odd' about his front legs...Im terrible for explaining myself....but something just looks 'off' to me maybe there is someone else who can explain it better than me I personally dont think his head is overly huge at all (IMO)
I think the 'funny leg thing' is that his pasterns are a little long, just a little though. Also, his hooves have a funny angle. Looks like he has too much toe and not enough heel. But overall, I like him. He has a sweet face.

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hes slightly too far out behind and weak through the loin. he's also slightly long backed, and he might be slightly calf kneed. its hard to tell in the pictures.

hes got a decent shoulder and a nice wither on him.
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