Conformation Clinic #2 ~ Quarter Horse Mare

astablehand · 12-19-2005, 09:53 PM

Are you ready for another one? Here is the next participant in Horsetopia's Conformation Clinic!

Breed: Quarter horse
Age: 15
Height: 15.2
Gender: mare
Use: trail riding, semi-retired
Breeding: Granddaughter of Zippo Pine Bar on bottom, great-granddaughter of Sonny Dee Bar on top

snickers · 12-19-2005, 10:15 PM

Nice rich color. Her legs look clean. Looks to be a little straight in the pasterns.
High withers or a slight sway in the back, could be angle of the pic.Nice short back. I like a short backed horse. Nice rump and muscle tone.
Neck looks to come into the shoulder fine. Love her head. That blaze is awesome and her jowl looks porportioned. She looks to have that
halter head. Her face tells me she is a sweety. Soft eyes.
I like her.
She is a real nice mare.

NChase · 12-19-2005, 10:26 PM

Okay, I'll play.

My first impression was, "Ooh, pretty!" Her color and her flashy white markings catch my eye. I like the overall balance of her body ratio. I like a head with a little more refinement to it, but from the expression in her eye, she does look intelligent and alert.

Nice shoulder. Withers are prominent but I think that's just her age. The picture makes her near foreleg seem a little back at the knee, but I think that may be just the way she's standing.

She seems very straight in the hind leg for my taste, and the angles of her pasterns---especially the back ones---are quite steep. I'd guess that she may have been pretty fast in her day, but perhaps not the smoothest trot to sit to!

--Nancy

TheUpNorthCowgirl · 12-19-2005, 10:44 PM

Over all looks are great! She's flashy. I *love* white faced horses. The hind pasterns are a bit upright, and her head is a little on the large side. (personally I like horses with big head...even better if they're roman nosed too!) But she does have nice jowels. I like this mare a lot. Nice mare

grace · 12-19-2005, 10:53 PM

I dont know enough about this to comment but I wanted to say I love her face, she looks like such a sweetheart!

appygurl · 12-19-2005, 10:59 PM

Nice build
Pretty mare
Im not really sure what eles to say but she is a nice lookin mare

mandelyn82 · 12-20-2005, 07:20 AM

She does look steep in the pasterns, more so in the rear. But she does have nice clean legs that are well set.

Her rump is fairly leval with her shoulder... but there is a dip in her back which is most likely her age.

I think her neck is a little short.. but it could be because her head is turned slightly to the camera. She has a sweet face... and a nice jaw line, but I like to see a little more definition.

I love her color and markings... very bright and rich.

gingerfleguel · 12-20-2005, 07:56 AM

I really like her...for her age I think she is in pretty good shape. Nice color and I love the socks!

**TDH** · 12-20-2005, 08:51 AM

Another very kind-looking horse is my first impression! And temperament is the most important thing about a horse. As others have said, rear pasterns look a little steep but she looks like she may toe out on the left rear as well, unless that happened to be the way she's just standing in the picture. Straight hind shot or a video clip would tell whether that's the case. Otherwise pretty nicely balanced and put together; shoulder maybe slightly steep but does follow the same line as her pasterns. With the wonderful color and sweet expression, with the little flaws she should be perfect for the use she's doing!

shyfilly78 · 12-20-2005, 12:12 PM

She's a very pretty mare...

I think she is small in the heartgirth chest area....Steep angles on her hind ends which was already suggested...

Overall, she's a nice looking mare. She shows her age a little...
Very Flashy though...I love big blazes!

ron · 12-20-2005, 03:10 PM

a nice mare

she is not as posty legged as picture implys. her right leg shows her true leg set. the left leg is set back and makes her look a little more posty legged.

she has got a nice long hip, but it is not as developed as should be.
her chest and shoulders are more developed. this indicates to me that she does not collect as well as she could and more than likely pulls herself with front legs instead of pushing with the rear end.

Shoulder is a little steeper than I would like to see for myself, but it is well within usable limits

nice long neck that gets a little wide at bottom and ties again a little low, but again, well within usable limits

Nice clean legs with no obvious glitches.

Head is just a little larger than I like in mares, but again, it does not look bad on her frame.

All in all, a nice mare that most anyone would like to have. Age considered, in very good shape, but needs to work a little more to get in better condition.

I bet she would enjoy it too.

allison · 12-20-2005, 03:39 PM

First of all, she has a lovely expression on her face. Her head could use some refinement. Her neck ties in a little low into her chest, but it sorta suits her overall look. Her back is a little too long, thus it has swayed. Her tailset is a little too high. Her croup/loins look a little weak, but for her age I think she looks great, healthy and very happy. It all comes down to a little too much of this, and that. She's a very pretty mare, and looks extremely pleasant to be around. Great color as well.

jyates · 12-20-2005, 03:53 PM

She's a pretty thing isn't she?

I don't have a trained eye by any stretch of the imagination but
the only thing that strikes me is that the left rear leg (nearest leg
to the camera) looks to me to be a little thin between the hip and
the knee. Maybe I'm too used to looking at muscled up working
horses!

**QuarterCowGirl** · 12-20-2005, 04:21 PM

I love her face, I'm a sucker for a big, wide blaze. I think she has a bit of a sway in her back, but considering her age she looks great. She has a very kind eye and a set of lovely socks. All in all I think she's a great looking horse!

Renae · 12-22-2005, 12:03 AM

Starting from the top...

Her head is a little too large and boxy for a mare...even for a stud the bone structure should be more prominent. But her blaze is very eye catching and possibly why it looks so boxy. Her ears are small and proportionate to her head. Her neck is nicely muscled and she looks relaxed. Her throat latch looks clean from what I can see but the base of her neck ties in too low. Her withers are very nice, probably holds a saddle well!! Her shoulder angle is good and her forearm and cannon bone are the right lengths. Her pasterns are too upright (ideal is a 45 degree angle) in both her front and hind legs...more so behind it looks like. Her joints look clean and flat. Her underline is nice but her topline isn't as much due to her slight sway back (due to age) and the fact that her back is a little too long (ideal back length is exactly half the length of the underline) she's more like 3/4 of the length. Her croup is nicely angled and short but her tailset is a little too high for a stock breed and her butt is a little too peaked (but probably again due to age and lack of muscle in the loins). Her hind stifle is a little weak looking and could use a little more muscle. Overall her parts all blend fairly well and her markings are very beautiful.

She probably rides well but might have a hard time using her hind end properly and I'm guessing she's a little bouncy because of the angle and length of her pasterns. However it looks like she carries herself as well as she can undersaddle due to the way her neck is muscled and she probably doesn't resist a whole lot. Her chest muscles aren't too large so I know she isn't pulling herself along at any gait but her stifle muscles and hind end muscles aren't as large as they should be if she were really traveling on her hind end...she probably travels very balanced which is about all she CAN do because of her age and conformation. She shouldn't do too bad in at a local show in Halter Classes...her color will gain her the most points!!! Nice Mare!!!!!

joustinggirl · 01-01-2006, 08:43 AM

I must say, she is very pretty. I love her head and neck. I do WP and I look for horses that carry their heads naturally low. She looks very cmfortable and she looks very tolerant and sweet. Even if it ties in low(Doesn't look that way to me) Its perfect for WP. The only thing that strikes me is the angle of her pasterns and the rear hooves that toe out. Maybe at the hock. I have seen worse conformation do very well. So, I really like her. I think her flaws are minimal and if she moved well for WP and is as sweet as she looks, this would not be a mare that I would feel guilty about breeding. I have had several Sonny D Bar/Zippo Pine Bar crosses and they all look very much like her. It is a cross that does well.

12-19-2005, 09:53 PM
astablehand Yearling Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Creston, British Columbia Posts: 527	Conformation Clinic #2 ~ Quarter Horse Mare Are you ready for another one? Here is the next participant in Horsetopia's Conformation Clinic! Breed: Quarter horse Age: 15 Height: 15.2 Gender: mare Use: trail riding, semi-retired Breeding: Granddaughter of Zippo Pine Bar on bottom, great-granddaughter of Sonny Dee Bar on top

12-19-2005, 10:15 PM
snickers Bombproof Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 8,991	Nice rich color. Her legs look clean. Looks to be a little straight in the pasterns. High withers or a slight sway in the back, could be angle of the pic.Nice short back. I like a short backed horse. Nice rump and muscle tone. Neck looks to come into the shoulder fine. Love her head. That blaze is awesome and her jowl looks porportioned. She looks to have that halter head. Her face tells me she is a sweety. Soft eyes. I like her. She is a real nice mare. __________________ " You cant fix stupid " Ron White Life is to short to argue with ignorant people.

12-19-2005, 10:26 PM
NChase Long Yearling Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,114	Okay, I'll play. My first impression was, "Ooh, pretty!" Her color and her flashy white markings catch my eye. I like the overall balance of her body ratio. I like a head with a little more refinement to it, but from the expression in her eye, she does look intelligent and alert. Nice shoulder. Withers are prominent but I think that's just her age. The picture makes her near foreleg seem a little back at the knee, but I think that may be just the way she's standing. She seems very straight in the hind leg for my taste, and the angles of her pasterns---especially the back ones---are quite steep. I'd guess that she may have been pretty fast in her day, but perhaps not the smoothest trot to sit to! --Nancy

12-19-2005, 10:44 PM
TheUpNorthCowgirl Long Yearling Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upper Michigan Posts: 1,026	Over all looks are great! She's flashy. I love white faced horses. The hind pasterns are a bit upright, and her head is a little on the large side. (personally I like horses with big head...even better if they're roman nosed too!) But she does have nice jowels. I like this mare a lot. Nice mare __________________ Hahahaha!

12-19-2005, 10:53 PM
grace Weanling Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 363	I dont know enough about this to comment but I wanted to say I love her face, she looks like such a sweetheart!

12-19-2005, 10:59 PM
appygurl Coming two Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,821	Nice build Pretty mare Im not really sure what eles to say but she is a nice lookin mare __________________ Appaloosa--brains, looks, and temperment all in one

12-20-2005, 07:20 AM
mandelyn82 Coming two Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Campbell, KY Posts: 1,977	She does look steep in the pasterns, more so in the rear. But she does have nice clean legs that are well set. Her rump is fairly leval with her shoulder... but there is a dip in her back which is most likely her age. I think her neck is a little short.. but it could be because her head is turned slightly to the camera. She has a sweet face... and a nice jaw line, but I like to see a little more definition. I love her color and markings... very bright and rich. __________________ "The more people I meet the more I love my German Shepherd"

12-20-2005, 07:56 AM
gingerfleguel Kid Safe Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ottawa Posts: 5,502	I really like her...for her age I think she is in pretty good shape. Nice color and I love the socks!

12-20-2005, 08:51 AM
TDH Welcome and Introductions Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,400	Another very kind-looking horse is my first impression! And temperament is the most important thing about a horse. As others have said, rear pasterns look a little steep but she looks like she may toe out on the left rear as well, unless that happened to be the way she's just standing in the picture. Straight hind shot or a video clip would tell whether that's the case. Otherwise pretty nicely balanced and put together; shoulder maybe slightly steep but does follow the same line as her pasterns. With the wonderful color and sweet expression, with the little flaws she should be perfect for the use she's doing!

12-20-2005, 12:12 PM
shyfilly78 Yearling Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stanford, IL Posts: 690	She's a very pretty mare... I think she is small in the heartgirth chest area....Steep angles on her hind ends which was already suggested... Overall, she's a nice looking mare. She shows her age a little... Very Flashy though...I love big blazes! __________________ If your looking for something dead broke, don\'t look at my horses but look at me! http://www.geocities.com/shyfilly78/wwpq.html

12-20-2005, 03:10 PM
ron Started Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 2,651	a nice mare she is not as posty legged as picture implys. her right leg shows her true leg set. the left leg is set back and makes her look a little more posty legged. she has got a nice long hip, but it is not as developed as should be. her chest and shoulders are more developed. this indicates to me that she does not collect as well as she could and more than likely pulls herself with front legs instead of pushing with the rear end. Shoulder is a little steeper than I would like to see for myself, but it is well within usable limits nice long neck that gets a little wide at bottom and ties again a little low, but again, well within usable limits Nice clean legs with no obvious glitches. Head is just a little larger than I like in mares, but again, it does not look bad on her frame. All in all, a nice mare that most anyone would like to have. Age considered, in very good shape, but needs to work a little more to get in better condition. I bet she would enjoy it too.

12-20-2005, 03:39 PM
allison Started Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kenosha, WI. Posts: 2,133	First of all, she has a lovely expression on her face. Her head could use some refinement. Her neck ties in a little low into her chest, but it sorta suits her overall look. Her back is a little too long, thus it has swayed. Her tailset is a little too high. Her croup/loins look a little weak, but for her age I think she looks great, healthy and very happy. It all comes down to a little too much of this, and that. She's a very pretty mare, and looks extremely pleasant to be around. Great color as well. __________________ Horses & Horsepower www.freewebs.com/mustangali_/ "...just like computers refuse to understand how I'm feeling today"

12-20-2005, 03:53 PM
jyates Coming two Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SouthWest Arkansas Posts: 1,504	She's a pretty thing isn't she? I don't have a trained eye by any stretch of the imagination but the only thing that strikes me is that the left rear leg (nearest leg to the camera) looks to me to be a little thin between the hip and the knee. Maybe I'm too used to looking at muscled up working horses!

12-20-2005, 04:21 PM
QuarterCowGirl Welcome and Introductions Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,757	I love her face, I'm a sucker for a big, wide blaze. I think she has a bit of a sway in her back, but considering her age she looks great. She has a very kind eye and a set of lovely socks. All in all I think she's a great looking horse! __________________ I'm a farmer - I'll grow on you.

12-22-2005, 12:03 AM
Renae Weanling Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: United States Posts: 216	Starting from the top... Her head is a little too large and boxy for a mare...even for a stud the bone structure should be more prominent. But her blaze is very eye catching and possibly why it looks so boxy. Her ears are small and proportionate to her head. Her neck is nicely muscled and she looks relaxed. Her throat latch looks clean from what I can see but the base of her neck ties in too low. Her withers are very nice, probably holds a saddle well!! Her shoulder angle is good and her forearm and cannon bone are the right lengths. Her pasterns are too upright (ideal is a 45 degree angle) in both her front and hind legs...more so behind it looks like. Her joints look clean and flat. Her underline is nice but her topline isn't as much due to her slight sway back (due to age) and the fact that her back is a little too long (ideal back length is exactly half the length of the underline) she's more like 3/4 of the length. Her croup is nicely angled and short but her tailset is a little too high for a stock breed and her butt is a little too peaked (but probably again due to age and lack of muscle in the loins). Her hind stifle is a little weak looking and could use a little more muscle. Overall her parts all blend fairly well and her markings are very beautiful. She probably rides well but might have a hard time using her hind end properly and I'm guessing she's a little bouncy because of the angle and length of her pasterns. However it looks like she carries herself as well as she can undersaddle due to the way her neck is muscled and she probably doesn't resist a whole lot. Her chest muscles aren't too large so I know she isn't pulling herself along at any gait but her stifle muscles and hind end muscles aren't as large as they should be if she were really traveling on her hind end...she probably travels very balanced which is about all she CAN do because of her age and conformation. She shouldn't do too bad in at a local show in Halter Classes...her color will gain her the most points!!! Nice Mare!!!!! __________________ Renae Just do it!

01-01-2006, 08:43 AM
joustinggirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boones Mill, Virgina Posts: 3,395	I must say, she is very pretty. I love her head and neck. I do WP and I look for horses that carry their heads naturally low. She looks very cmfortable and she looks very tolerant and sweet. Even if it ties in low(Doesn't look that way to me) Its perfect for WP. The only thing that strikes me is the angle of her pasterns and the rear hooves that toe out. Maybe at the hock. I have seen worse conformation do very well. So, I really like her. I think her flaws are minimal and if she moved well for WP and is as sweet as she looks, this would not be a mare that I would feel guilty about breeding. I have had several Sonny D Bar/Zippo Pine Bar crosses and they all look very much like her. It is a cross that does well. __________________ Pink Tiger says \'Grrrrrr\'