2 yr old MILKING??

Sassy · 08-13-2008, 05:22 PM

A friend of mine as a pretty buckskin 2 yr old paint filly who was pastured with a yearling colt last year. They would have both been yearlings. The filly has started to milk

? Just clear so far a touch cloudy. Her teats are dropped not sucked up like a two year old should be! She has a belly, but not huge at all. My friend is worried she is bred. Can't afford to get her tested either. So what are the chances of her being pragnant? I have heard of catch colts etc. But both as yearlings teh chances are pretty slim. I can't see her milking as a two year old and not being bred. Has anyone ever had a two yer old not bred who milked!

rm185western · 08-13-2008, 05:27 PM

I always thought that the colts and fillies should be separated at 6 = 8 months, a year sounds well old enough for boys to be boys.

It's so sad hearing someone say they can't afford a vet visit for a checkup, it's so much cheaper than calling him out in the middle of the night to try and save an immature mare trying to foal.

Has she rung the vet to ask how much it would cost, I was suprised mine only charged $40 to check Fancy

Sassy · 08-13-2008, 06:12 PM

Well normlly she would have the bucks but she still paying a huge bill on another horse to have it fixed up after a bad run in with a board fence.

JosieGirl · 08-13-2008, 06:21 PM

The best advice I have... talk to the vet - have a vet check done.
Even if it cost money now, it may be well worth it for the peace of mind or for the preparation of a foal.

rm185western · 08-13-2008, 06:26 PM

I don't know how friendly your vets are, maybe I'm just really lucky with mine. The bill we had for Alsvid was quite large, and he'd done surgery on a calf for us a while back, he let us catch up with installments.

If it was possible to take the filly to him it really would be a cheap way of either getting rid of the worry, or planning how to deal with things.

And, sorry, to answer your original question, I haven't heard of a 2 year old having milk without being served, but maybe someone else has.

Crookedblaze · 08-13-2008, 06:28 PM

It sounds like this may be a vet visit.

I agree with everyone else, better to live off of top ramen for a month or so then having to pay for the vet bill for an immature foal. Plus, if she is pregnant, a 2 year old should not be carrying a baby.

I wish the best of luck to your friend and the filly. I hope that everything turns out for the better.

paintedpastures · 08-13-2008, 06:31 PM

Your friend is right to worry,it is very possible she is prego.Yearling colts are more than capable of impregnating a mare. She will have to have her vet checked to be sure.
On another note yearling/2 yr olds filly's can get a puffy bag that makes it looks suspicious,it is a hormonal thing like adolescent girls.Had another girl post about her filly just not too long ago,same age.It turned out to be hormones not pregnancy,baggy went back to normal..

Goldun Acres · 08-13-2008, 06:45 PM

Unfortunately, the only reason that comes to mind for a 2 year old filly to be producing milk is an impending foal....As the others have mentioned, a vet visit would be the best option.

BabyMay · 08-13-2008, 08:53 PM

Sure sounds like she has been bred and is expecting. If she can't afford a Vet visit, maybe she could just call and get his opinion on the situation.

reiningfan · 08-13-2008, 09:37 PM

Sounds like a bred filly to me too. My vet only charges $11 per mare to preg check. And that is ultrasound, not just manually. Most vets are willing to accept payments in a case like this. Can't hurt for her to ask. Although if she can't afford the preg check, what's she gonna do about a possible foal out of an immature dam?

Jean Genie · 08-13-2008, 10:00 PM

Sounds like a RUH-OH

. Surely she can work out something w the vet. If she is "on the nest" there are preparations, vax, stuff to be done to insure the health of both Mom and her expected bundle of joy. How long were the 2 together? Any way to guesstimate when she might be due if she is preggers? I don't think this is a wait-and-see situation.

Horselessnomore · 08-13-2008, 10:05 PM

My weanling was ready and probably capable of mounting the mare when she was in heat. Fortunately -- she hated both weanlings and they were separated soon after they were brought on the property. So I would say yes, it is possible she might be in foal and should be checked by the vet.

Wolfie · 08-14-2008, 01:58 AM

Vet, vet, vet.

The foal will probably need to be aborted if it's not too late.

reiningfan · 08-14-2008, 09:46 AM

If the mare is already showing signs of bagging up, it's waaaay too late to get rid of it. If you are going to abort a mare, it has to be done relatively early.

Burnttimber · 08-14-2008, 09:58 AM

If your friend is allready paying off a vet bill on another horse - and making good thier word to pay, I am sure the vet will not mind adding to the bill for a Preg Check. Heck with the mare & foal we lost this spring, we were about
$8,000 in debt to our vet - it is now paid off, but that's life with livestock!! Best of luck.

DriftwoodAcres · 08-14-2008, 10:14 AM

It sounds like she is in-foal

Vet check would be a must for me, and the extra dollars would be well worth the peace of mind or the preperation for the foal. JMO. Good luck!

Sassy · 08-15-2008, 06:04 PM

Oh brother. Yeah I figured there really was no other explaination for a 2 yr old to be milking. I told my friend it sure sounds like she is in foal! She just bought this filly about 6-8 weeks ago. And, had asked the person she got her from if she was bred but was told Nope no way at all. Then when she saw that she was milking she did some research got a hold of the previous owner before the seller she got her from and found out she had been running with a yearling

. Last I talked to her she was talking about getting a vet out so heres hoping

! She would hate to loose the mare. She is a sweet pea. And started too. Poor girl. My friend has her in a pasture she can see fully from the house to keep an eye on her. So far she is doing great. Spunky and keeping her weight up nice but she is also on a extra ration as well as full pasture. She is a good 14.3hh so hope that bids in her favor when it comes time to foal!

ARSPSB · 08-15-2008, 10:49 PM

Thats so sad... prayers for that filly. Alot of two yr olds having babies dont seem to do real well. Knew a not so bright lady one time that left three half siblings together there whole yearling year... two fillys and a colt. Both fillys were breed by there half brother... both foals were lost, and one filly was lost... it was not good.

Sassy · 08-16-2008, 09:29 AM

Oh now get this. Well after talking to someone who knows the folks who originally had the filly with colt. It turns out it was NOT a colt at all but a 2 yr old stallion

!!!!!! OMG,

are people really that horse dumb!? When my two year old filly got over the fence bred I was in tears. I felt like the worse horse mommy on the face of this earth. But, then to hear that there are Morrons who actually think it is OK to put a yearling filly in with a dam 2 yr old stud... Uuuurrrggghhhhh

. Yup, friend is having her vetted, vet said it is A-ok to add more onto her bill

...
And to top it all off the so called stallion is a wee ugly guy, now three he is 14.2hh, ugly confirmation huge head gaugle no shoulder little to no hip short back yeah ok but short underline too

... So not only is she bred but the stud is UGLY misshappened should definalty not be reproducing. GGGGRRRRRRR... I feel bad for my friend! She had high hopes of finishing this girl off over the fall as her new saddle mount. But, now dang it! She is going to have to wait for her to foal then wean the baby not to meantion all the extra care she now has to foot with extra fed for a immature growing and nursing moma and of course fed for the little one. She is really quit angry and almost wanted to return the filly. But, she really likes her a great deal.

ARSPSB · 08-16-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy

Oh now get this. Well after talking to someone who knows the folks who originally had the filly with colt. It turns out it was NOT a colt at all but a 2 yr old stallion

!!!!!! OMG,

are people really that horse dumb!? When my two year old filly got over the fence bred I was in tears. I felt like the worse horse mommy on the face of this earth. But, then to hear that there are Morrons who actually think it is OK to put a yearling filly in with a dam 2 yr old stud... Uuuurrrggghhhhh

. Yup, friend is having her vetted, vet said it is A-ok to add more onto her bill

...
And to top it all off the so called stallion is a wee ugly guy, now three he is 14.2hh, ugly confirmation huge head gaugle no shoulder little to no hip short back yeah ok but short underline too

... So not only is she bred but the stud is UGLY misshappened should definalty not be reproducing. GGGGRRRRRRR... I feel bad for my friend! She had high hopes of finishing this girl off over the fall as her new saddle mount. But, now dang it! She is going to have to wait for her to foal then wean the baby not to meantion all the extra care she now has to foot with extra fed for a immature growing and nursing moma and of course fed for the little one. She is really quit angry and almost wanted to return the filly. But, she really likes her a great deal.

IF mama and foal make it.

I think id be talking to the old owners incase that mama doesnt even make it. Your yearling got breed too at another occasion? Weird...

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08-13-2008, 05:22 PM
Sassy Started Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,331	2 yr old MILKING?? A friend of mine as a pretty buckskin 2 yr old paint filly who was pastured with a yearling colt last year. They would have both been yearlings. The filly has started to milk ? Just clear so far a touch cloudy. Her teats are dropped not sucked up like a two year old should be! She has a belly, but not huge at all. My friend is worried she is bred. Can't afford to get her tested either. So what are the chances of her being pragnant? I have heard of catch colts etc. But both as yearlings teh chances are pretty slim. I can't see her milking as a two year old and not being bred. Has anyone ever had a two yer old not bred who milked! __________________ A horse which stops dead just before a jump and thus propels its rider into a graceful arc provides a splendid excuse for general merriment. ~ DUKE OF ENDINBURGH ~

08-13-2008, 05:27 PM
rm185western Greenbroke Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 3,512	I always thought that the colts and fillies should be separated at 6 = 8 months, a year sounds well old enough for boys to be boys. It's so sad hearing someone say they can't afford a vet visit for a checkup, it's so much cheaper than calling him out in the middle of the night to try and save an immature mare trying to foal. Has she rung the vet to ask how much it would cost, I was suprised mine only charged $40 to check Fancy __________________ ________________________________ Okay, who put a stop payment on my reality check?

08-13-2008, 06:12 PM
Sassy Started Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,331	Well normlly she would have the bucks but she still paying a huge bill on another horse to have it fixed up after a bad run in with a board fence. __________________ A horse which stops dead just before a jump and thus propels its rider into a graceful arc provides a splendid excuse for general merriment. ~ DUKE OF ENDINBURGH ~

08-13-2008, 06:21 PM
JosieGirl Yearling Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 824	The best advice I have... talk to the vet - have a vet check done. Even if it cost money now, it may be well worth it for the peace of mind or for the preparation of a foal.

08-13-2008, 06:26 PM
rm185western Greenbroke Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 3,512	I don't know how friendly your vets are, maybe I'm just really lucky with mine. The bill we had for Alsvid was quite large, and he'd done surgery on a calf for us a while back, he let us catch up with installments. If it was possible to take the filly to him it really would be a cheap way of either getting rid of the worry, or planning how to deal with things. And, sorry, to answer your original question, I haven't heard of a 2 year old having milk without being served, but maybe someone else has. __________________ ________________________________ Okay, who put a stop payment on my reality check?

08-13-2008, 06:28 PM
Crookedblaze Started Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,360	It sounds like this may be a vet visit. I agree with everyone else, better to live off of top ramen for a month or so then having to pay for the vet bill for an immature foal. Plus, if she is pregnant, a 2 year old should not be carrying a baby. I wish the best of luck to your friend and the filly. I hope that everything turns out for the better. __________________ Owned by Rocketman, a 17 year old AQHA and Stormy, a 10 year old Peruvian Paso x Arab

08-13-2008, 06:31 PM
paintedpastures Weanling Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sherwood park,AB Posts: 297	Your friend is right to worry,it is very possible she is prego.Yearling colts are more than capable of impregnating a mare. She will have to have her vet checked to be sure. On another note yearling/2 yr olds filly's can get a puffy bag that makes it looks suspicious,it is a hormonal thing like adolescent girls.Had another girl post about her filly just not too long ago,same age.It turned out to be hormones not pregnancy,baggy went back to normal..

08-13-2008, 06:45 PM
Goldun Acres Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern MN Posts: 1,365	Unfortunately, the only reason that comes to mind for a 2 year old filly to be producing milk is an impending foal....As the others have mentioned, a vet visit would be the best option. __________________ Lacey @ Goldun Acres R.I.P. Grandpa - Forever* and always in my heart!*

08-13-2008, 08:53 PM
BabyMay Coming two Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,875	Sure sounds like she has been bred and is expecting. If she can't afford a Vet visit, maybe she could just call and get his opinion on the situation.

08-13-2008, 09:37 PM
reiningfan Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Western Manitoba, Canada Posts: 516	Sounds like a bred filly to me too. My vet only charges $11 per mare to preg check. And that is ultrasound, not just manually. Most vets are willing to accept payments in a case like this. Can't hurt for her to ask. Although if she can't afford the preg check, what's she gonna do about a possible foal out of an immature dam?

08-13-2008, 10:00 PM
Jean Genie Started Join Date: May 2006 Location: NW Illinois Posts: 2,002	Sounds like a RUH-OH . Surely she can work out something w the vet. If she is "on the nest" there are preparations, vax, stuff to be done to insure the health of both Mom and her expected bundle of joy. How long were the 2 together? Any way to guesstimate when she might be due if she is preggers? I don't think this is a wait-and-see situation. __________________ Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some sort of battle.

08-13-2008, 10:05 PM
Horselessnomore Long Yearling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,343	My weanling was ready and probably capable of mounting the mare when she was in heat. Fortunately -- she hated both weanlings and they were separated soon after they were brought on the property. So I would say yes, it is possible she might be in foal and should be checked by the vet.

08-14-2008, 01:58 AM
Wolfie Coming two Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: US Posts: 1,547	Vet, vet, vet. The foal will probably need to be aborted if it's not too late.

08-14-2008, 09:46 AM
reiningfan Yearling Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Western Manitoba, Canada Posts: 516	If the mare is already showing signs of bagging up, it's waaaay too late to get rid of it. If you are going to abort a mare, it has to be done relatively early.

08-14-2008, 09:58 AM
Burnttimber Yearling Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Strathmore, AB Posts: 556	If your friend is allready paying off a vet bill on another horse - and making good thier word to pay, I am sure the vet will not mind adding to the bill for a Preg Check. Heck with the mare & foal we lost this spring, we were about $8,000 in debt to our vet - it is now paid off, but that's life with livestock!! Best of luck. __________________ Burnt Timber Paint Horse Co. http://www.burnttimber.com \"Breeding the best to create better!\"

08-14-2008, 10:14 AM
DriftwoodAcres Weanling Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 457	It sounds like she is in-foal Vet check would be a must for me, and the extra dollars would be well worth the peace of mind or the preperation for the foal. JMO. Good luck! __________________ P.eople E.ating T.asty A.nimals

08-15-2008, 06:04 PM
Sassy Started Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,331	Oh brother. Yeah I figured there really was no other explaination for a 2 yr old to be milking. I told my friend it sure sounds like she is in foal! She just bought this filly about 6-8 weeks ago. And, had asked the person she got her from if she was bred but was told Nope no way at all. Then when she saw that she was milking she did some research got a hold of the previous owner before the seller she got her from and found out she had been running with a yearling . Last I talked to her she was talking about getting a vet out so heres hoping ! She would hate to loose the mare. She is a sweet pea. And started too. Poor girl. My friend has her in a pasture she can see fully from the house to keep an eye on her. So far she is doing great. Spunky and keeping her weight up nice but she is also on a extra ration as well as full pasture. She is a good 14.3hh so hope that bids in her favor when it comes time to foal! __________________ A horse which stops dead just before a jump and thus propels its rider into a graceful arc provides a splendid excuse for general merriment. ~ DUKE OF ENDINBURGH ~

08-15-2008, 10:49 PM
ARSPSB Weanling Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: maricopa, arizona Posts: 483	>> Thats so sad... prayers for that filly. Alot of two yr olds having babies dont seem to do real well. Knew a not so bright lady one time that left three half siblings together there whole yearling year... two fillys and a colt. Both fillys were breed by there half brother... both foals were lost, and one filly was lost... it was not good.

08-16-2008, 09:29 AM
Sassy Started Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,331	Oh now get this. Well after talking to someone who knows the folks who originally had the filly with colt. It turns out it was *NOT* a colt at all but a 2 yr old stallion !!!!!! OMG, are people really that horse dumb!? When my two year old filly got over the fence bred I was in tears. I felt like the worse horse mommy on the face of this earth. But, then to hear that there are Morrons who actually think it is OK to put a yearling filly in with a dam 2 yr old stud... Uuuurrrggghhhhh. Yup, friend is having her vetted, vet said it is A-ok to add more onto her bill ... And to top it all off the so called stallion is a wee ugly guy, now three he is 14.2hh, ugly confirmation huge head gaugle no shoulder little to no hip short back yeah ok but short underline too... So not only is she bred but the stud is *UGLY* misshappened should definalty not be reproducing. GGGGRRRRRRR... I feel bad for my friend! She had high hopes of finishing this girl off over the fall as her new saddle mount. But, now dang it! She is going to have to wait for her to foal then wean the baby not to meantion all the extra care she now has to foot with extra fed for a immature growing and nursing moma and of course fed for the little one. She is really quit angry and almost wanted to return the filly. But, she really likes her a great deal. __________________ A horse which stops dead just before a jump and thus propels its rider into a graceful arc provides a splendid excuse for general merriment. ~ DUKE OF ENDINBURGH ~ Last edited by Sassy : 08-16-2008 at 09:32 AM.