color question????

Codalena · 08-12-2008, 01:15 PM

I was wondering if its at all possible for a black mare who was bred to a liver chestnut to have a buckskin foal. The reason Im asking is cause my filly from last year we reg'd her as a brown color. But this year (now a yearling) she seems to look like a smutty buckskin. I havent had either parents color tested. Does anyone know???? Thank you !!

EquineLaw78 · 08-12-2008, 01:18 PM

If the mare is actually a smokey black, I think it would be possible.

What color are her sire and dam?

Codalena · 08-12-2008, 01:23 PM

The mare is not a smokey black . Her sire is black her dam is a sorrel. The stud is a liver chestnut, his sire is chestnut and his dam is a palomino.

cowgirlspurs · 08-12-2008, 01:38 PM

may just be the "brown" has been bleached out by the sun to appear golden.

AlbertaGirl · 08-12-2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codalena

The mare is not a smokey black . Her sire is black her dam is a sorrel. The stud is a liver chestnut, his sire is chestnut and his dam is a palomino.

Unless it is just sunbleaching, I would have to guess that he (the sire) is actually a smokey black, and that your filly is actually a buckskin

.

Can you post pictures of the sire, dam and filly?

Red Gate Farm · 08-12-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

may just be the "brown" has been bleached out by the sun to appear golden.

This would be my first guess, given the info provided. I have a black filly who's sunbleached to brown in the summer.

cowgirlspurs · 08-12-2008, 01:47 PM

Your mention of the stallion being a liver chestnut but his dam is a palomino gave me pause as I have a palomino mare that was registered as chestnut. She is 10 years old and no one thought any different until last year when she produced a palomino colt from a chestnut sire.
Paperwork went in and she is a palomino-very orange with a greyish/dirty flaxen mane and a red tail.
Never know.

Wendy F · 08-12-2008, 04:00 PM

There would have to be a dilute parent. I would get the black one tested as a lot of times Smoky black is not known or obvious. Sometimes bays bleach to a dark buckskin color in summer.

Codalena · 08-12-2008, 05:00 PM

Thanks everyone!! I dont know how to post pics at all , sorry, or else I might give it a whirl. When the filly shed out this spring, before the sun bleached her, she looked like a smutty buckskin. Now that she has sunbleached , yup she still looks buckskin

just lighter then in the spring. The dam is black and now that she is sunbleached has golden flecks thru her , does that make her a smokey black??

Codalena · 08-12-2008, 05:03 PM

The half sister to this yearling is a bay, and she is out of a buckskin mare

AlbertaGirl · 08-12-2008, 05:15 PM

Here's a link on how to post photos, because I think we need to see some to help you

How to Post Photos and Avatars

I still think if the sire looks liver chestnut, but he's out of a palomino dam, that he could actually be smokey black, passing the cream gene on to the filly. But that's just going on the info you've provided so far... how many foals has the stud sired? Any other dilute foals?

Here's a link to more info on the cream gene, with some pics of smokey blacks http://www.equinecolor.com/cream.html

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08-12-2008, 01:15 PM
Codalena Newborn Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 32	color question???? I was wondering if its at all possible for a black mare who was bred to a liver chestnut to have a buckskin foal. The reason Im asking is cause my filly from last year we reg'd her as a brown color. But this year (now a yearling) she seems to look like a smutty buckskin. I havent had either parents color tested. Does anyone know???? Thank you !!

08-12-2008, 01:18 PM
EquineLaw78 Yearling Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 937	If the mare is actually a smokey black, I think it would be possible. What color are her sire and dam?

08-12-2008, 01:23 PM
Codalena Newborn Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 32	The mare is not a smokey black . Her sire is black her dam is a sorrel. The stud is a liver chestnut, his sire is chestnut and his dam is a palomino.

08-12-2008, 01:38 PM
cowgirlspurs Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Washago/Severn Bridge Ontario Posts: 1,423	may just be the "brown" has been bleached out by the sun to appear golden. __________________ Fufill your fantasies...FG Fantasy Fella

08-12-2008, 01:47 PM
cowgirlspurs Long Yearling Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Washago/Severn Bridge Ontario Posts: 1,423	Your mention of the stallion being a liver chestnut but his dam is a palomino gave me pause as I have a palomino mare that was registered as chestnut. She is 10 years old and no one thought any different until last year when she produced a palomino colt from a chestnut sire. Paperwork went in and she is a palomino-very orange with a greyish/dirty flaxen mane and a red tail. Never know. __________________ Fufill your fantasies...FG Fantasy Fella

08-12-2008, 04:00 PM
Wendy F Yearling Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 951	There would have to be a dilute parent. I would get the black one tested as a lot of times Smoky black is not known or obvious. Sometimes bays bleach to a dark buckskin color in summer. __________________ Breaking,Training,Raising Quality bred QH's Home of Blue Roan Stallion "Blue Woody Hancock" AQHA, NFQHA 96.63% Foundation www.wfquarterhorses.com "With God, there is 2 in the saddle. You will never ride alone again!"

08-12-2008, 05:00 PM
Codalena Newborn Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 32	Thanks everyone!! I dont know how to post pics at all , sorry, or else I might give it a whirl. When the filly shed out this spring, before the sun bleached her, she looked like a smutty buckskin. Now that she has sunbleached , yup she still looks buckskin just lighter then in the spring. The dam is black and now that she is sunbleached has golden flecks thru her , does that make her a smokey black??

08-12-2008, 05:03 PM
Codalena Newborn Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 32	The half sister to this yearling is a bay, and she is out of a buckskin mare

08-12-2008, 05:15 PM
AlbertaGirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alberta Posts: 3,263	Here's a link on how to post photos, because I think we need to see some to help you How to Post Photos and Avatars I still think if the sire looks liver chestnut, but he's out of a palomino dam, that he could actually be smokey black, passing the cream gene on to the filly. But that's just going on the info you've provided so far... how many foals has the stud sired? Any other dilute foals? Here's a link to more info on the cream gene, with some pics of smokey blacks http://www.equinecolor.com/cream.html __________________ Some people say horses don't have a sense of humor... they obviously haven't met mine yet ;o)