know him??

appy&paints · 08-04-2008, 11:03 PM

Has any one ever heard of a horse called Mr. I'm Black? I was told he was 7th in the world in 2007 in Halter. Dose anyone know him?

Dusty'sGirl · 08-04-2008, 11:19 PM

Nope but if he is papered then I would go to www.allbreedpedigree.com and see if he is registers and see what it says about him...

AlbertaGirl · 08-04-2008, 11:47 PM

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+im+black From there, it says "2007 AQHA World Show - Top Ten OPEN 3yo Stallions"

Ewww... looks like he'd have a good chance of being HYPP N/H at least

SpotsNGlory · 08-04-2008, 11:52 PM

Wrong horse on all breed, this is his sire, not Mr Black. -->http://www.bramblettquarterhorses.co...sblackgold.htm

Sad that they are breeding him to produce more hypp horses

money is more important then the health stat passed on.

appy&paints · 08-04-2008, 11:55 PM

I know nothing about pedigrees, so what do yall think of him?

SpotsNGlory · 08-04-2008, 11:56 PM

breburtch · 08-05-2008, 05:43 AM

He's a nice looking boy and has some good lines but I'm betting he's HYPP positive too with the amount of HYPP positives he has in his line and by the looks of him. So I would find that out.

What are you looking at him for?

Linebacker55 · 08-05-2008, 06:54 AM

All breed pedigree even says he is N/H.

His pedigree is great, very nice lines, great color.

breburtch · 08-05-2008, 06:57 AM

How the heck did I not see that I even looked several times at it the see if it said lol thats pretty bad

SirenAlecto · 08-05-2008, 08:46 AM

I think you should nix the stallion and find something HYPP N/N.

Jean Genie · 08-05-2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by appy&paints

I know nothing about pedigrees, so what do yall think of him?

As Linebacker said, he's got it all: great pedigree on paper, looks, build and color BUT the dealbreaker is his HYPP status. At N/H he has/is a carrier of a genetic disease that can be very dangerous

. If you're considering him as a breeding sire, FIRST read up on the disease he carries and is passing on to some of his offspring. Unfortunately, breeders are still rolling the dice, risking the health of the offspring and thereby helping to continue the problem rather than stopping it in it's tracks by NOT breeding affected horses. Scary stuff

.

This topic has been discussed/debated here A LOT

. Please, PLEASE do a search and educate yourself b4 making a decision. You can either be part of the problem

or part of the solution

.

appy&paints · 08-05-2008, 10:33 AM

I was looking at a filly by him, she has a good build and she is black like him. They’re selling her for 150 and I was thinking of a resale project, but I did not know about the HYPP status the owners said nothing about that and I did not think to ask because I have never heard of him. That’s why I came here. So yall are right I will pass on her.

**gbarmranch** · 08-05-2008, 10:53 AM

Ask about her status first - she has a 25% chance of not being N/H if her dam was N/N... but I wouldn't consider her if she wasn't tested..

What a shame - he is gorgeous and wonderfully bred..

appy&paints · 08-05-2008, 11:21 AM

No, they have not tested her. I called and asked about the stallion having it and the filly having it and they said that it is unlikely that she is a carrier. And for me that is not a good enough answer, just assuming that the horse dose not have it. So I will pass, there is no reason to support people who intentionally produce horses with this disease IMO.

**gbarmranch** · 08-05-2008, 11:27 AM

I would too if that is their attitude.. how sad..

HighHorse · 08-05-2008, 11:31 AM

They would rather send her off untested, and let the buyer figure out she is positive than try to sell a N/H or H/H horse. Buttheads!

SpotsNGlory · 08-05-2008, 11:36 AM

well...look on the website that I've provided on the stallion's info. 99% of their horses bred are N/H Stallions and N/H broodmares Only 2 of the 9 or so stallions[didnt count] listed on their front page are N/N....I would never buy any horses off them considering they only breed NH defectives..I say pass on the filly if she's from this ranch....

Do you have the mares registered name? I can look it up and see if she is NH.

GreyDot · 08-05-2008, 11:44 AM

That IS a pretty stallion - and I'm not even a Q/H person! Question, though... you'd do a pre-purchase, right? Why could that pre-purchase not also involve a test for HYPP? If the filly is N/N, then she'd make a heck of a horse - and if she does carry, then it's pretty much like any other failed pre-purchase... Or would the breeder not allow it? Just a thought, anyway...

appy&paints · 08-05-2008, 12:56 PM

She is not from that ranch, someone here in Texas owns her. They just used that stallion. With it being something so major and the owners not cooperating and blowing it off I am no longer interested. When I was asking about it they just blew it off. Personally I think that it is odd that they would breed to a horse with a $1000 stud fee and sell the offspring for $150 neg. Also when I brought up the fact that she could have it they got uncomfortable, I think they had her tested and she was positive and now they want to dump her and that why they avoid the subject and say “ oh…. the stallion dose have it but she wont” they cant know that, they supposedly have not tested her.

appy&paints · 08-05-2008, 01:00 PM

They said she was out of Rythmatical Conclusion, they said that she has been a money earner as well.

08-04-2008, 11:03 PM
appy&paints Newborn Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: texas Posts: 29	know him?? Has any one ever heard of a horse called Mr. I'm Black? I was told he was 7th in the world in 2007 in Halter. Dose anyone know him?

08-04-2008, 11:19 PM
Dusty'sGirl Halter broke Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ironton Posts: 59	Nope but if he is papered then I would go to www.allbreedpedigree.com and see if he is registers and see what it says about him...

08-04-2008, 11:47 PM
AlbertaGirl Greenbroke Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alberta Posts: 3,263	http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+im+black From there, it says "2007 AQHA World Show - Top Ten OPEN 3yo Stallions" Ewww... looks like he'd have a good chance of being HYPP N/H at least __________________ Some people say horses don't have a sense of humor... they obviously haven't met mine yet ;o)

08-04-2008, 11:52 PM
SpotsNGlory Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sunny South Beach~~ Posts: 71	oopsies Wrong horse on all breed, this is his sire, not Mr Black. -->http://www.bramblettquarterhorses.co...sblackgold.htm Sad that they are breeding him to produce more hypp horses money is more important then the health stat passed on. Last edited by SpotsNGlory : 08-05-2008 at 02:11 PM.

08-04-2008, 11:55 PM
appy&paints Newborn Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: texas Posts: 29	I know nothing about pedigrees, so what do yall think of him?

08-04-2008, 11:56 PM
SpotsNGlory Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sunny South Beach~~ Posts: 71	... Last edited by SpotsNGlory : 08-05-2008 at 02:11 PM. Reason: editted above

08-05-2008, 05:43 AM
breburtch Coming two Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ennismore, Ontario Posts: 1,863	He's a nice looking boy and has some good lines but I'm betting he's HYPP positive too with the amount of HYPP positives he has in his line and by the looks of him. So I would find that out. What are you looking at him for?

08-05-2008, 06:54 AM
Linebacker55 Started Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,210	All breed pedigree even says he is N/H. His pedigree is great, very nice lines, great color. __________________ www.risingwaterqh.com RISING WATER QUARTER HORSES Home of World and Reserve World Champions AQHA/ABRA/IBHA

08-05-2008, 06:57 AM
breburtch Coming two Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ennismore, Ontario Posts: 1,863	How the heck did I not see that I even looked several times at it the see if it said lol thats pretty bad

08-05-2008, 08:46 AM
SirenAlecto Halter broke Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 130	I think you should nix the stallion and find something HYPP N/N.

08-05-2008, 11:27 AM
gbarmranch Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,218	I would too if that is their attitude.. how sad.. __________________ Quality FoundationQuarter Horses http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann Minds are like parachutes – they only function when open – Thomas Dewar

08-05-2008, 10:33 AM
appy&paints Newborn Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: texas Posts: 29	I was looking at a filly by him, she has a good build and she is black like him. They’re selling her for 150 and I was thinking of a resale project, but I did not know about the HYPP status the owners said nothing about that and I did not think to ask because I have never heard of him. That’s why I came here. So yall are right I will pass on her.

08-05-2008, 10:53 AM
gbarmranch Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,218	Ask about her status first - she has a 25% chance of not being N/H if her dam was N/N... but I wouldn't consider her if she wasn't tested.. What a shame - he is gorgeous and wonderfully bred.. __________________ Quality FoundationQuarter Horses http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann Minds are like parachutes – they only function when open – Thomas Dewar

08-05-2008, 11:21 AM
appy&paints Newborn Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: texas Posts: 29	No, they have not tested her. I called and asked about the stallion having it and the filly having it and they said that it is unlikely that she is a carrier. And for me that is not a good enough answer, just assuming that the horse dose not have it. So I will pass, there is no reason to support people who intentionally produce horses with this disease IMO.

08-05-2008, 11:31 AM
HighHorse Started Join Date: May 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 2,892	They would rather send her off untested, and let the buyer figure out she is positive than try to sell a N/H or H/H horse. Buttheads! __________________ I played with a clouded leopard

08-05-2008, 11:36 AM
SpotsNGlory Halter broke Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sunny South Beach~~ Posts: 71	well...look on the website that I've provided on the stallion's info. 99% of their horses bred are N/H Stallions and N/H broodmares Only 2 of the 9 or so stallions[didnt count] listed on their front page are N/N....I would never buy any horses off them considering they only breed NH defectives..I say pass on the filly if she's from this ranch.... Do you have the mares registered name? I can look it up and see if she is NH.

08-05-2008, 11:44 AM
GreyDot Started Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Between AZ and OH Posts: 2,272	That IS a pretty stallion - and I'm not even a Q/H person! Question, though... you'd do a pre-purchase, right? Why could that pre-purchase not also involve a test for HYPP? If the filly is N/N, then she'd make a heck of a horse - and if she does carry, then it's pretty much like any other failed pre-purchase... Or would the breeder not allow it? Just a thought, anyway... __________________ ...There is nothing to be done till a horse's head is settled. ~William Cavendish Stuipid CAN be fixed... you just have to hit it hard enough! ~A rare moment of inspiration

08-05-2008, 12:56 PM
appy&paints Newborn Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: texas Posts: 29	She is not from that ranch, someone here in Texas owns her. They just used that stallion. With it being something so major and the owners not cooperating and blowing it off I am no longer interested. When I was asking about it they just blew it off. Personally I think that it is odd that they would breed to a horse with a $1000 stud fee and sell the offspring for $150 neg. Also when I brought up the fact that she could have it they got uncomfortable, I think they had her tested and she was positive and now they want to dump her and that why they avoid the subject and say “ oh…. the stallion dose have it but she wont” they cant know that, they supposedly have not tested her.

08-05-2008, 01:00 PM
appy&paints Newborn Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: texas Posts: 29	They said she was out of Rythmatical Conclusion, they said that she has been a money earner as well.