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Old 05-12-2007, 09:32 AM  
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Silver buckskin, Grulla, and Silver bay

Can someone show me pictures of what a SILVER BUCKSKIN and SILVER BAY look like??

Also, what two colors/genes are best at producing a GRULLA??

Someone PLEASE, I tried to google the colors but they pulled up 3 or 4 different colors and don't know which one is actually a silver buckskin or silver bay.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:48 AM  
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Grulla to Grulla is your best chance at a Grulla! It is the rarest of colors, atleast in the QH breeds!
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:21 AM  
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Yup, Linebacker is correct - you may also have a chance off a black based black horse bred to a grulla - but that is still a hard one to predict..
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Gbar has a GEORGOUS grulla!

You should hit her up for some good pics! (hint, hint!)
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:47 PM  
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Hmmm...Now I want to see a pic of your grulla gbar... I LOVE grullas!!

Anyone have any pics of a silver buckskin or silver bay?
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:02 PM  
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This is Ginger our silver bay Mini mare (taken two days after she foaled, so NOT the most flattering picture):


And this is Ginger with her silver buckskin colt from last year (before we bought her; An even less flattering picture ):

And a full body shot of the scruffy little guy (now I wish I would have bought him too ):

The color isn't perfect in this picture, the "black" in his mane is actually a brownish-silver color.

I can't help with the grulla (where's gbar?) and hopefully someone has prettier pictures than mine, but they'll give you an idea at least.
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:08 PM  
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This is why I am so confused...the horses I saw (including yours-I appreciate the pictures- dont look silver to me...

How can you tell the difference between a silver or another color close?
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:33 PM  
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HorseLover, the silver gene generally doesn't create a "silver" appearance.


Silver Dapple is the name of the gene, and the name of the color of this gene on a black horse. It's effect on black horses would result in that mottled greyish/chocolate color with the "flaxen" mane and tail (with dark roots).

Silver Bay, is the Silver Dapple gene on a Bay horse. If you think of the way a Bay looks, then combine it with how the silver dapple effects black, you'll get the idea. Silver bay has the regular red body, but the black legs are faded to that greyish/chocolatey color, and the black mane and tail are faded to the "flaxen" color (with dark roots).

This link shows pics of Silver Dapple, and Silver Bay:
http://www.mustangs4us.com/Horse%20C...er_dapples.htm
(The horse in the middle of the top is silver bay, the other two are silver dapple.)



Silver Buckskin, is Silver Dapple on a Buckskin. Same cream body, but the legs are that greyish/chocolatey color, and the mane and tail are faded to that "flaxen" color (with dark roots).


Grulla/Grullo is the effect of Dun on a black horse. Many paople use the term "Silver Grullo" to describe the shade of the body, when they do not have the silver gene. Hence the confusion.


Best chances of getting Grullo is a Grullo to Grullo, second best, Black to Grullo.



There is a rare possibility of Silver Dapple occuring on Grullo, making a true Silver Grullo, but this horse would be very odd indeed, and look much like a Silver Dapple, with the dun factoring being just a hint darker. It would still have the "flaxen" mane and tail (with dark roots).
(About halfway down the page on the above link is "Tinkerbelle" a silver dapple dun, aka a true 'silver' grullo.)


Does any of that make sense?
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:13 PM  
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Oh yes!! Thankyou, I understand now! I was thinking they look more like grullas.

So, I guess I just need to stick with a grulla then. I love the silver with black markings
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Old 05-12-2007, 06:10 PM  
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My stallion is a grullo there are several different shades. Even my grullo changes colors from winter to summer. Winter he's more of the greyish brown and in the summer he's a dark slate grey.
I have 2 pics of him on my website top is winter bottom is summer.
http://www.geocities.com/skylight_minis/Stallion.html

If you look on my mare pages i also have pics of 1 silver black and 2 silver bays. I love the silver bay. I have the silver bay appy bred to my grullo and is due pretty soon. I'm hoping to get that rare true silver grullo. If i got one of those i definatly wouldnt sell it. Its such an awesome color. I'm breeding him to my silver black and the silver bay pinto for next year to raise the chances of getting one.
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I am not sure if this will help you at all in your quest for determining which is Silver Dapple vs. Silver Bay, but the woman who owns this website has and continues to do a lot of research on this subject so if any one can help possibly her site can.
The plus is lots of great pictures of beautiful horses.
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http://www.mindspring.com/~morgans/silvermorgans.htm
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Old 05-13-2007, 06:59 AM  
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I am not sure if this will help you at all in your quest for determining which is Silver Dapple vs. Silver Bay, but the woman who owns this website has and continues to do a lot of research on this subject so if any one can help possibly her site can.
The plus is lots of great pictures of beautiful horses.
Good Luck

http://www.mindspring.com/~morgans/silvermorgans.htm
AWESOME LINK!!!
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