Mare Owners - It Can Happen To You - Semi-Graphic Pics

muttduck · 04-23-2007, 06:56 PM

**The following topic contains photographs of a sensitive/adult nature, and are semi-graphic.**

*Dial-up warning, there are 10 pics, reasonably sized*

Decided to stick around?

Alrighty then.

This evening, my hussy mare displayed just how some pregnancies can occur, even when they are not in the same pasture as a stallion.

I was able to photograph the incident from a great distance (my camera has an excellent zoom.)
The following photos will show that with hormones, anything can happen.

This is my 5 year old MAIDEN mustang mare, and my neighbor's *male* horse... The fence between them is RedBrand, 4', standard field fence, and was just installed two weeks ago. It is brand spanking new, and was stretched as tight as it can possibly go.

They met...

They flirted...

And it progressed from there, all within 5 minutes...

Fortunately, these photos show all of the incident, and nothing progressed any further. The incident ended with my mare trying to kick the tar out of him.

The other positive note is that THIS horse is a gelding.

Please, mare owners, if your mare is turned out next to a stallion, be aware that this can fully happen to your mare, and could just as easily progress much farther.

Stallion owners, please, fence your boys responsibly to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

divinemisselle · 04-23-2007, 07:34 PM

Gelding or not, I would highly advise a strand of electric across the top of there. The chance of one of the two getting caught up in the woven fence is one I wouldn't want to take.

Tenacious little buggers, aren't they?

muttduck · 04-23-2007, 07:37 PM

Apparently, huh?
*sighs defeatedly*

I swear, this was the last thing I needed to happen in less than 24 hours of my horses finally being able to go out in the pasture.

Obviously I'll have to replan 800' of my new fenceline.

Carri · 04-23-2007, 07:39 PM

Hmmm, and our B/O said there was no way his stud could have bred my pony mare through the fence, and it is a board fence! Thinkin' it could have happened (we gave her the shot to make sure though).

pvf · 04-23-2007, 07:46 PM

Yep. I would be adding electric fencing to the woven wire. Even one strand on your side will keep her away from the fence - but to make sure he stays on his side you could add it on the top. If it would be my horse I would be worried that she would get her foot caught if she kept kicking the fence - but thats only my thought.

muttduck · 04-23-2007, 07:46 PM

These are not big horses, either.
My mare is 14:2, and this gelding can't be any taller...

muttduck · 04-23-2007, 07:50 PM

Indeed, I am worried, and not the least bit happy with this situation...

miss leanne · 04-23-2007, 07:51 PM

Ah yes... breeding season.

So fun for a lot of people, but BOY can it be a royal PITA.

I knew a lady who had the same thing happen with a mare and a late-cut gelding... except there was a strand of barbed wire over the top of the fence.

Just be thankful you're not having to have the vet out over this. And amazing forethought to catch it all with the camera! I gotta say... can serve as a good visual aide for a lot of folks.

divinemisselle · 04-23-2007, 07:51 PM

The only other option that I see is adding a DMZ.

And sending him the bill.

Carri · 04-23-2007, 07:54 PM

So, this is your fence that you just installed? And the neighbor is using part of it to keep his gelding in? Seems like there might be some liability for him if his horse tears the fence down or damages it.

miss leanne · 04-23-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by divinemisselle

The only other option that I see is adding a DMZ.

And sending him the bill.

A'yup. I'd be mentioning to them that the situation is critical, and that maybe y'all could split the bill now... instead of having some serious vet bills (likely for theirs gelding) and having to pay to replace the whole darn thing if he were to tear it down. I think they will likely agree.

TheUpNorthCowgirl · 04-23-2007, 08:02 PM

My stud Shorty-Man bred a mare thru the fence....11 months later there was a Shorty Jr.

So, with hormones it's exceptionally easy for ANYTHING to happen

championhorse · 04-23-2007, 08:03 PM

Poor guy was all excited

At least hes a gelding. So you don't have to worry that he may have got her. But yeah it could have been bad had he got caught in the fence....with any part of his body..

muttduck · 04-23-2007, 08:06 PM

We just put up the 800' fenceline (as you see it in the pics) on the property line between us and him.

This was the last side of fence we needed for our 13 acres to become pasture, and it was also the last side he needed for his own land.

Until now, my girls have been on a dry lot.
Now they are in and out of the dry lot while adjusting to grass.

Only, the dry lot also borders his new pasture for 30 feet.

Miss Leanne, I was photographing my girls enjoying their second evening of turnout when this happened...

Just so happened to still have my camera on, zoomed, and focussed when Lily approached the fence. I was standing on my back deck, about 600' away. All the yelling in the world at my mare wasn't stopping it.

wildcat180 · 04-23-2007, 08:10 PM

Oh, how wonderful!

Any chance of them getting used to each other after a while and stopping that behavior? Kayode was real possessive of Leila when they first moved in together, there was tons of mounting and chasing Thor away from her, but they've all since settled down.

Now when Leila winks, Kayode walks away...

ToveroMom · 04-23-2007, 10:05 PM

Yep he needs to put up a fence on HIS property along that 30 yard stretch

muttduck · 04-24-2007, 03:44 AM

The 30 foot stretch I mentioned is only where his pasture connects to my dry lot / goat pen... Which is the only place I can put them other than the pasture. My girls will not live in that 50 x 120 goat pen permanently, not when I own 13 acres.

His pasture connects to my pasture on about 750' in addition to the 30' stretch where the goat pen is...

Lemme draw a diagram, I'll be back.

Edited to add:

gbarmranch · 04-24-2007, 03:53 AM

I see him putting his own fence section up - or at least a hot wire...

Range · 04-24-2007, 05:57 AM

I LOVE electric and it's not that expensive...get him to put up his share! Tell him you're afraid his boy is going to lose his "boy" part through the fence. That causes men to wince and hop to!

Carri · 04-24-2007, 06:15 AM

Good response!

Where was his gelding before you put up your fence? Sounds like he is taking advantage of all of your hard work and expense! And if his horse damages the fence and you are not there to see it, it will be hard to prove it was not your horse...

04-23-2007, 06:56 PM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 7,067	Mare Owners - It Can Happen To You - Semi-Graphic Pics *The following topic contains photographs of a sensitive/adult nature, and are semi-graphic.* Dial-up warning, there are 10 pics, reasonably sized Decided to stick around? Alrighty then. This evening, my hussy mare displayed just how some pregnancies can occur, even when they are not in the same pasture as a stallion. I was able to photograph the incident from a great distance (my camera has an excellent zoom.) The following photos will show that with hormones, anything can happen. This is my 5 year old MAIDEN mustang mare, and my neighbor's male horse... The fence between them is RedBrand, 4', standard field fence, and was just installed two weeks ago. It is brand spanking new, and was stretched as tight as it can possibly go. They met... They flirted... And it progressed from there, all within 5 minutes... Fortunately, these photos show all of the incident, and nothing progressed any further. The incident ended with my mare trying to kick the tar out of him. The other positive note is that THIS horse is a gelding. Please, mare owners, if your mare is turned out next to a stallion, be aware that this can fully happen to your mare, and could just as easily progress much farther. Stallion owners, please, fence your boys responsibly to prevent unwanted pregnancies. __________________ sigh

04-23-2007, 07:34 PM
divinemisselle Bombproof Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: At the bar... Posts: 8,359	Gelding or not, I would highly advise a strand of electric across the top of there. The chance of one of the two getting caught up in the woven fence is one I wouldn't want to take. Tenacious little buggers, aren't they? __________________ . Lead me not into temptation..... I can find it just fine on my own.....

04-23-2007, 07:37 PM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 7,067	Apparently, huh? sighs defeatedly I swear, this was the last thing I needed to happen in less than 24 hours of my horses finally being able to go out in the pasture. Obviously I'll have to replan 800' of my new fenceline. __________________ sigh

04-23-2007, 07:39 PM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,870	Hmmm, and our B/O said there was no way his stud could have bred my pony mare through the fence, and it is a board fence! Thinkin' it could have happened (we gave her the shot to make sure though).

04-23-2007, 07:46 PM
pvf Bombproof Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 8,284	Yep. I would be adding electric fencing to the woven wire. Even one strand on your side will keep her away from the fence - but to make sure he stays on his side you could add it on the top. If it would be my horse I would be worried that she would get her foot caught if she kept kicking the fence - but thats only my thought. __________________ www.prairieviewfarms.net Raising Reg. Paints and Quarter horses

04-23-2007, 07:50 PM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 7,067	Indeed, I am worried, and not the least bit happy with this situation... __________________ sigh

04-23-2007, 07:51 PM
miss leanne Seasoned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,524	Ah yes... breeding season. So fun for a lot of people, but BOY can it be a royal PITA. I knew a lady who had the same thing happen with a mare and a late-cut gelding... except there was a strand of barbed wire over the top of the fence. Just be thankful you're not having to have the vet out over this. And amazing forethought to catch it all with the camera! I gotta say... can serve as a good visual aide for a lot of folks.

04-23-2007, 07:54 PM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,870	So, this is your fence that you just installed? And the neighbor is using part of it to keep his gelding in? Seems like there might be some liability for him if his horse tears the fence down or damages it.

04-23-2007, 08:02 PM
TheUpNorthCowgirl Long Yearling Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upper Michigan Posts: 1,422	My stud Shorty-Man bred a mare thru the fence....11 months later there was a Shorty Jr. So, with hormones it's exceptionally easy for ANYTHING to happen __________________ The horse has so docile a nature, that he would rather do right than wrong, if he can only be taught to distinguish one from the other."

04-23-2007, 08:03 PM
championhorse Long Yearling Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,374	Poor guy was all excited At least hes a gelding. So you don't have to worry that he may have got her. But yeah it could have been bad had he got caught in the fence....with any part of his body..

04-23-2007, 08:06 PM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 7,067	We just put up the 800' fenceline (as you see it in the pics) on the property line between us and him. This was the last side of fence we needed for our 13 acres to become pasture, and it was also the last side he needed for his own land. Until now, my girls have been on a dry lot. Now they are in and out of the dry lot while adjusting to grass. Only, the dry lot also borders his new pasture for 30 feet. Miss Leanne, I was photographing my girls enjoying their second evening of turnout when this happened... Just so happened to still have my camera on, zoomed, and focussed when Lily approached the fence. I was standing on my back deck, about 600' away. All the yelling in the world at my mare wasn't stopping it. __________________ sigh

04-23-2007, 08:10 PM
wildcat180 Seasoned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,131	Oh, how wonderful! Any chance of them getting used to each other after a while and stopping that behavior? Kayode was real possessive of Leila when they first moved in together, there was tons of mounting and chasing Thor away from her, but they've all since settled down. Now when Leila winks, Kayode walks away... __________________ www.getyourhorse.com www.forum.getyourhorse.com

04-23-2007, 10:05 PM
ToveroMom Pasture Pet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cleveland TX Posts: 17,059	Yep he needs to put up a fence on HIS property along that 30 yard stretch

04-24-2007, 03:44 AM
muttduck Kid Safe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 7,067	The 30 foot stretch I mentioned is only where his pasture connects to my dry lot / goat pen... Which is the only place I can put them other than the pasture. My girls will not live in that 50 x 120 goat pen permanently, not when I own 13 acres. His pasture connects to my pasture on about 750' in addition to the 30' stretch where the goat pen is... Lemme draw a diagram, I'll be back. Edited to add: __________________ sigh

04-24-2007, 03:53 AM
gbarmranch Pasture Pet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mayberry Posts: 32,634	I see him putting his own fence section up - or at least a hot wire... __________________ http://home.earthlink.net/~vpgann Quality Foundation Quarter Horses If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself." Augustine of Hippo

04-24-2007, 05:57 AM
Range Kid Safe Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back of Beyond Posts: 6,957	I LOVE electric and it's not that expensive...get him to put up his share! Tell him you're afraid his boy is going to lose his "boy" part through the fence. That causes men to wince and hop to! __________________ "Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it all... you just might get it all, and then some you don't want." Chris Daughtery www.goatsandsoaps.com for all your Boer goat and bath soap needs.

04-24-2007, 06:15 AM
Carri Pasture Pet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia Posts: 13,870	Good response! Where was his gelding before you put up your fence? Sounds like he is taking advantage of all of your hard work and expense! And if his horse damages the fence and you are not there to see it, it will be hard to prove it was not your horse...