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Old 07-29-2006, 05:12 PM  
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Equine Embryo Transfer

Hi! I was wondering if anyone has any experiance with equine embryo transfer??? If so, i would like to know any informtaion about it, and your personal experiance. I did find a couple of websites i've already read, but i was wanting to hear about it first hand. Thanks!!!!!
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I have not done it, but have friends that have. What kind of information wore you wondering about.
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I know that it's very expensive and also very labor intensive.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:24 AM  
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Well, i do not know if i am NUTS, but the reason i am wondering about it is.............. i bought a horse when i was 10, she was 6. Well, i love her dearly but never bred her at all. She is now 23, and she is way too old to breed, but i would love for her to leave a legacy, and i would love to keep a part of her, even after she is gone someday, which will hopefully be a long time away. So my thought was to breed her by AI, and then transfer the embryo to a younger, healthy mare. I just have so many questions as to whether or not this would even be possible, or safe for her. What are the risks, since she is 23, are the chances high that the AI wouldn't even take???? Is it crazy for me to even be thinking of??? (not sure if i want that answered ). I just love this mare to DEATH and i would just love to have one of her babies. She is the one in my avatar. Thanks everyone!!!
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well it can get quite expensive, especially in Iowa. I think you would probably have to transpoert the mare somewhere that does the procedure. Another problem would be if the mare is producing viable follicles. If all that passes ok, then you have to line up a recepient mare. The procedure itself is not that complicated.

If you choose to proceed with it, plan on a budget of 8-10 thousand including normal stud fees, shipping fees, transport fees, bet fees, repro exam, the actual procedure, mare leasing, and mare upkeep
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:24 AM  
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Well, i need to check into it, but we have a veterinarian school here at Iowa State University. I need to check with them and see if they do it and how much it would cost. Could i have a mare of my own be the surrogate?? That way i am not paying to lease a mare?? The vet hosipital is about 30 minutes away from here. I would probably not pick an outrageously expensive stud fee. I don't even have a stud in mind at the moment. Would any of this cut the cost?? Do you know if there is any risk to my mare, beings she is older????? I would never forgive myself if i did this, and then it caused something to happen to her. AND...... I actually don't own her at the moment. I sold her to a family 5 years ago for a girl to use in 4-H, i will be getting her back sometime in the next year, i think. So i wouldn't be doing this until she was mine again. I am just wanting to figure out if it could possibly be an option, so i can save $$$$ and all. Thanks so much!! I truly appreciate it!
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I would say plan on ten thousand at least. I think it costs 5-6 thousand just to flush and implant the embryo. And, I believe that a spayed mare is generally used as a recipient.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:10 AM  
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And, I believe that a spayed mare is generally used as a recipient.
OK, you're going to have to elaborate on that one for me! Isn't the result of "spaying" in any animal, so that it cannot get pregnant.............. So this statement doesn't make sense to me. Thanks!!!
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That's what I thought too! It is just something that I was told by a breeding manager at a large ranch when I was asking questions about embryo transfer. Maybe somebody else can explain it to us. A spayed mare goes into heat, so maybe they still have most of their "plumbing".
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A spayed mare has no uterus so nowhere to 'bake" the baby.
If the ovaries are left I guess they could react when follicles are forming in there.
I only have had the one spayed mare but she did not cycle at all-nothing

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My bad-yes it is the ovaries but now vaginal spays are done and it is a much less invasive procedure and recovery time is very fast.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:26 PM  
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Spayed mare

Actually a spayed mare does have a uterus but no ovaries. Our vet used our stocks and breeding area to spay a mare a couple of years ago. Very interesting procedure. They go in through the flank and remove the ovaries only. They get both from the same side (just reach in from a small, arm size incision). The mare was very sedated but standing throughout the procedure. I have talked to the mare's owner several times since and she is doing great.
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Breeding farms tend to have a spayed mare on hand to use for a tease mare for AI collection.

In order to do an embryo transfer you would need to have a healthy mare on hand that was cycling just at the right time to receive the embryo that was flushed from the dam. Many times vet facilities that do embryo transfer will have a herd of draft cross mares that are leased out to the mare owners as recipient mares.
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Old 07-31-2006, 12:14 AM  
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Eggs in humans are there at birth; consequently, a 40-year-old woman has 40-year-old eggs, which is what makes conception difficult and birth defects more prominent. Is the same thing true of horses? Would Love2game's 23-year-old mare have 23-year-old eggs? Would the same problems occur?
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