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Old 11-17-2005, 07:17 PM  
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What's the difference between the Grullo and Buckskin color?

Hi all,

Looking at a sale paper and there are a couple of QH geldings
that I like. One of the is Grullo and one is Buckskin. Other than
the Grullo having some black stockings I can't tell the difference.

What is the difference?

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Grullo is a variety of dun and so with have the dorsal stripe,leg barring,ear tipping,shoulder barring,and possibly facial cobwebbing[in various combos]
The buckskin should also have black legs. The body can range from beige to gold color and black points
To add to the confusion Grullos can have a base coat ranging from the grey color to a pretty dark brownish color The word Grullo actually is a spanish word-and refers to the color of the blue heron.the greyish color a large percentage of the grullos are
So are you hitting the sale?
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:31 PM  
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ToveroMom hit it right on the head.
If you get one, post a pic and
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Grullo is a variety of dun and so with have the dorsal stripe,leg barring,ear tipping,shoulder barring,and possibly facial cobwebbing[in various combos]
The buckskin should also have black legs. The body can range from beige to gold color and black points
To add to the confusion Grullos can have a base coat ranging from the grey color to a pretty dark brownish color The word Grullo actually is a spanish word-and refers to the color of the blue heron.the greyish color a large percentage of the grullos are
So are you hitting the sale?
Probably won't make the sale there Mom but I like #22 Poco Toms Brim
and #28 Buck Jolly Jack on this page. Why do I always like the expensive horses?
http://www.havardsales.com/page10.pdf
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:39 PM  
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Now that is a rhetorical question,right?

The grullo will go high-like his pedigree but color is hot and you will pay for it If you are hunting opinions between the two-I would favor the grullo
I was kind of liking #24-another red horse..
Wait a minute I am not buying another horse...but if I was looking...I would like that one
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:12 AM  
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Genetically you can tell the difference since a test for agouti or cream will tell you which is which.

Buckskin is a black horse, plus agouti, plus cream.

Grullo/a is a black horse plus dun, no agouti nor cream.



Now for visuals, Tmom got it right... And it is easy to see your confusion, especially if we are talking about foals with foal coats.

The grullo should have black points, black dorsal, and ear tips, leg bars, cobwebbing... The body itself can range from an olive greenish brown to steel grey, some shades looking like a dark brown as well.

The buckskin should have black points, and an overall buttermilk to dark golden body shade, no dorsal (unless it is a dunskin). Some can go as dark as a 'chocolate,' or can have the sooty gene, which almost makes them look bay.
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Genetically you can tell the difference since a test for agouti or cream will tell you which is which.

Buckskin is a black horse, plus agouti, plus cream.

Grullo/a is a black horse plus dun, no agouti nor cream.
Actually, a grulla can carry a creme gene as well. But, even if they do carry the creme gene, they will still look grulla. If you took away the dun gene, you would then have a smokey black (black horse w/ a creme gene) - and those look mostly like a black horse. But, like you said, you could always be sure with a genetics test. I'm crossing my fingers that one day soon they will come out with the Dun test!

Buckskin: E, A, CCcr, dd
Grulla: E, aa, CC, D or E, aa, CCcr, D
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I just did a little searching, according to a couple sites Grulla (the feminine form) means crane or blue crane and Grullo (the masculine form) means mouse or dark gray.
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:32 AM  
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WYJumper-in Spanish the masculine and feminine forms are always Lo or La..grullo and grulla are the same word. I think Spanish words confuse some of the folks who do those websites
Like saying mankind-the usual way you would see it written is grullo[unless you are referring to a specific animal]
There are about a dozen colors of grullo though
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WYJumper-in Spanish the masculine and feminine forms are always Lo or La..
I learn something new on here every day .
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Come on down to Texas-you will learn a lot of Spanish
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Here's a picture of one of our grullas (it's not the greatest picture). She's kinda bleached out from the sun. Our stud is a little 'mousier' with more feathering.

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My friend has one on her website right now. Nice little mare. You can see her at: www.cullumhorsesales.com/fancy.html


Here's a picture:

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Actually, a grulla can carry a creme gene as well. But, even if they do carry the creme gene, they will still look grulla. If you took away the dun gene, you would then have a smokey black (black horse w/ a creme gene)
You are sooo very right! I compeletly left that out... Thank you for remembering!
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